SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

[Yung Dramps]

mawile aint a rabbit either

mega mawile is a moon rabbit

 

[Sirya]

no chance tinkaton gets huge power lmao. 75 is simply just too high for huge power.

Af if GF cared about this. Btw being megas is irrelevant in this case; megas or not, what matters is if the rest of the mons present in the game can or can not reliably withstand this kind of sheer power, and as we have seen in numerous cases with and without the needing of sheer force, they've released these kind of monsters without contemplation.

 

[Eriorguez]

Yeah I read my calculator and I mistyped Baxcalibur's Speed as 97 instead of 87.

Still though, the pre-evos BSTs are not it. Dreepy is an exception, yes, but its BST is lower than 300 and not higher, and in that case Dreepy itself is designed with the Tynamo philosophy of being unusable until it evolves. Frigibax would likely have a flat 300 BST.

The "typical" BST for a mid-stage pseudo is a flat 420 or 410, alternates every other gen barring Sliggoo, whose stats were an in between between Goomy and Goodra rounded up. Dragonair, Shelgon, Metang, Zweilous, and Hakamo-o have 420 BST, while Pupitar, Gabite, and Drakloak have 410 BST. Arctibax is more likely to have a flat 420 BST than an unusual value.

Dude, you are saying that it ISN'T consistent. Not a compelling argument.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

The power creep in this gen is real, just how many mons have 550+ BST? OU will be shaken up to the core from very beginning

 

[Worldie]

Quick question is there any reason at all we should believe this is real? Its just a pastebin someone posted on 4chan

We've just been through this with last weekend's fake dex leak

Right now we have 2 reasons

1) The math seems to work right for the pokes we have images of
2) We're also that desperate for bst

 

[Mettie7]

I'm gonna wait for more confirmation on this. all seems a little suspect for me. We're so thirsty for stats most of us will believe anything at this point.

 

[RoiDadadou]

Gallade is a 590 instead of 570 and this is coming from the doc published in this forum

This is my doc, I put it while waiting :/
And Gallade and Mence are the leaders, they both have +20 stats. We already had their stats.

 

[Delibird is Amazing]

Both volcarona's have a 570 bst in the pastebin am I getting gaslit here

 

[Deesu]

mega mawile is a moon rabbit

and tinkaton doesnt look like one?

 

[Delibird is Amazing]

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Mega aka they don't have an item. regular medicham is the highest at 60

 

[Cheryl.]

Tinkaton is the most tragic mon of all time lmao

 

[Spyro]

Tinkaton is the most tragic mon of all time lmao

They really didn't tinkaton when they made this Pokemon.

Could still get huge power though

 

[Sirya]

Mega aka they don't have an item. regular medicham is the highest at 60

aka it's irrelevant, again. When we talk about "no way they -as developers- do this -as a decision-", we are talking strictly in terms of design. And what designs ask you is only one thing: "can you include this into your game without hurting the game?" Because as far as I can tell, M-Mawile was actually Ubers, and there's been a plethora of cases of absurdingly broken mons that made no sense and were banned instantly because of broken abilities, stats or both at the same time, without resorting to huge power.

The same people who have created mega ray, zacian or m-mence, will stop and say "ey ey, 75 base atk is too much, dont do it" when they've already given it to a base 60? Btw i dont think this think is going to have huge power, but i can't imagine game freak either stoping because "its too much" when they've done much, much worse in the past.

 

[Peaches144]

Mega aka they don't have an item. regular medicham is the highest at 60

 

[ochoagenalyn]

Please be fake, I need Tinkaton to be the most broken Mon ever.

 

[Eriorguez]

Tinkaton is balanced, so to speak, by having an insanely strong STAB move, and the best typing in the game.

 

[RoiDadadou]

I think it's fake we already had Iron Hydreigon stats, and here they are 30 lower in Def.

 

[Yung Dramps]

 

[Peaches144]

I think it's fake we already had Iron Hydreigon stats, and here they are 30 lower in Def.

Where did that 30 BST go compared to what we had?

 

[Fusion Flare]

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TINKATONBROS... THIS MIGHT BE OUR CHANCE!

 

[R_N]

I think it's fake we already had Iron Hydreigon stats, and here they are 30 lower in Def.

Or it's just a typo

 

[RoyalDispenser]

I hope this is fake, cause holy shit these BST are complete unredeemable shit...

I knew this gen was full of shitmons but not this many purely shit mons.

 

[Some random freak]

To be fair to Tinkaton, a 160BP STAB move is still gonna hurt even coming off that weak attack stat, just look at Boomburst Swellow.

 

[Yung Dramps]

Or it's just a typo

I mean how do you do a typo if you're just copying data from files

 

[Mr. Uno]

Cetitan: 170/113/65/45/55/73
Let's fucking goooo that speed is perfect for slush rush

Baxcalibur 115/145/92/75/86/87
Honest to goodness? All around solid stat spread. Nice. :D



Weakness policy is not at all a common item in singles outside HO. This mon would see plenty of use outside HO. Compressing hazard removal and boosting is gigantic.

Ya know, it's starting to grow on me that maybe they added the defog effect because of all the new hisuian/paldean moves that spread hazards. GF probably definitely want the pseudo to have a niche in the meta so maybe it's there for a reason; but on pre gen9 standards, I'm getting the vibe that icetar was definitely just an ice type ttar. If it had snow warning, then it's definitely ice ttar and weakness policy is meant to be on that mon.