SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

[Lectrys]

Blood Moon Ursaluna's signature move is special Normal type Gigaton Hammer

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So a strictly worse Boomburst in singles...got it.

Looks like Game Freak is really determined to never give a new mon/form with 130 or more base Special Attack a new special attack with over 120 BP and no drawbacks.

 

[Wizarus]

Basculegion-M doesn't get Poltergeist, oof. I guess Dhelmise will have to do.

 

[lilpup800]

So a strictly worse Boomburst in singles...got it.

Looks like Game Freak is really determined to never give a new mon/form with 130 or more base Special Attack a new special attack with over 120 BP and no drawbacks.

as they should(?)

Well it gets Dual Wingbeat for a 120 BP.Flying move, but idk if it even needs Flying coverage, it doesn't help much against Poisons or Steels

Also 90bp Double Kick + Tail Slap/Beat Up, but no recovery and Poison Jab/Play Rough as STABs seem... rough pun intended. I have no clue what that thing is supposed to do, it can't even really fish for/get the most out of toxic chain procs either without recovery. It just seems bad in every format Smogon and VGC(ig it gets spread Gleam + Toxic Chain off... it's weaker 70 base sp attack, just use Glimmora lol). Shame bc I swear almost every Fairy type with good stats is meta.
EDIT: It gets roost, so ig there's lower tier stall stuff; still super mid

 

[TrainerX493]

Good Move.

 

[Moyashi]

Also 120bp Double Kick + Tail Slap/Beat Up, but no recovery and Poison Jab/Play Rough as STABs seem... rough pun intended. I have no clue what that thing is supposed to do, it can't even really fish for/get the most out of toxic chain procs either without recovery.

? Fez gets roost though?

 

[Flamestorm7]

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I see three TMs not present that make me sad. No Defog, No Expanding Force and No Triple Axel.

 

[Moyashi]

Ah I missed it, it's levelup move and I looked in the TM section of the datadump, ah okay then it has a niche in mid tier singles I suppose

Youre underselling it honestly. Fairy/poison is great typing defensively and spreading poison is really potent utility

 

[Gliwick]

Also 120bp Double Kick

90 BP.

 

[AztecCroc]

If something other than Ogrepon uses Ivy Cudgel while holding one of the masks, does Ivy Cudgel still change type?

 

[TheDragonTexasWarrior2001]

Here’s a better version without NatDex and Megas:
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/...836ace87c9b114437296788d5/personal_titan1.txt

 

[bodi]

people are getting this wrong about tera so let me clear this up :
moves of the Tera Type that have base power below 60 but are not a multi-strike move or an increased priority move are stealthily boosted to 60BP -Bulbapedia

 

[Aura Flare Riolu]

So Lurantis gets Superpower via Egg Move. So Base Game Pokemon got new moves outside the new TMs? I wonder what else got something?

 

[Dragapult]

This ain’t really the topic of the thread but back in the day when discussions like these were on the playgrounds, there were no “mythical.” The term legendary was much more loosely applied to things. The only sub-category was really just “pixies” for the base 100 pokemon like Mew. The term mythical is fairy new for English speakers, I think. I’ve been a long time Pokemon fan and that term was hardly used before like Gen 6.

I've been with the franchise since Gen 1 and to me they're still all just legendaries. Argue with your dad.

 

[R_N]

So I see Stantler, Scyther, Ursaring and Qwilfish-H still can't evolve and still require bringing into LA

Gamefreak are the dumbest people

 

[Fracterra]

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STABmons Grass Types have a new physical move to play with.

So I see Stantler, Scyther, Ursaring and Qwilfish-H still can't evolve and still require bringing into LA

Gamefreak are the dumbest people

Did you forget EA existed? At least basculegion gets Egg Moves now.
Edit: Nevermind…

 

[ScraftyIsTheBest]

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I find it funny that both Ogerpon and Urshifu are DLC1 cover mascots who are both 550 BST sub-legendaries

And that both of them have signature moves that are focused on landing critical hits.

 

[G-Luke]

Gamefreak a bunch of cowards for not giving back Scald or Knock to Toxapex.

They should have given Alo Knock as well.

 

[Mario With Lasers]

I really like how, in the midst of the Toxic decimation, Game Freak remembered to keep it in Umbreon and Houndoom's movepool. For once they respected the flavor text.

 

[Fracterra]

Gholdengo gets Focus Punch

 

[Eriorguez]

I really like how, in the midst of the Toxic decimation, Game Freak remembered to keep it in Umbreon and Houndoom's movepool. For once they respected the flavor text.

And Drowzee, which for some reason has always gotten Poison Gas by level up, and was used by every fucking trainer in Koga's gym.

 

[Pokemon Trainer: Shadow]

Wait, I thought Gliscor didn't get Toxic?

 

[Fracterra]

So the Victory Dance Poliwrath rumors were false then?

 

[Talpr0ne]

Now that the dust has settled I have to say it.
The 4chan pastebin "speculation" has been one of the absolute dumbest things I have witnessed in a while and I sincerely hope we won't repeat it for Indigo Disk.

 

[Fracterra]

Now that the dust has settled I have to say it.
The 4chan pastebin "speculation" has been one of the absolute dumbest things I have witnessed in a while and I sincerely hope we won't repeat it for Indigo Disk.

Your hopes will likely be in vain, this is the internet, where almost everyone wants attention, so they will do anything to get attention

 

[Blue glass]

And Drowzee, which for some reason has always gotten Poison Gas by level up, and was used by every fucking trainer in Koga's gym.

Drowzee are based on Baku which are often depicted with cloud of gases swirling around them, see Musharna. It still an iffy explanation.

Your hopes will likely be in vain, this is the internet, where almost everyone wants attention, so they will do anything to get attention

We can ignore them though and we should ignore obvious bullshit bait.