Metagame SCL I LC Discussion

LilyAC

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LilyAC vs daunt vs
dcae (60) vs (40) boulicrok - use better teams dcae
KSG (50) vs (50) Laroxyl - i still have faith in ksg he could easily be 2-1 rn
Toadow (55) vs (45) Wail Wailord - toadows last 2 teams have been pretty good so i favour him but im predicting wail bc go wail
Luthier (55) vs (45) kythier - not too sure about this bc luthier might be washed, but at least i know hes playing a ton of practice games to shake off the rust. kythr hasnt been great
 

LNumbers

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LilyAC vs daunt vs
dcae
vs boulicrok
KSG vs Laroxyl
Toadow vs Wail Wailord
Luthier
vs kythr
 

Expulso

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LilyAC vs daunt vs - i feel like dvs will pull it off again but have to bold lily here
dcae vs boulicrok - dcae, like, REALLY hates this meta
KSG vs Laroxyl - laro has some big wins whereas ksg is 0-3 but this mu is still prob like 51-49 or 55-45
Toadow vs Wail Wailord - go team
Luthier vs kythr - must bold against midwest but this is quite even imo hopefully it'll be a good one
 
LilyAC vs daunt vs Luthier
dcae (60) vs (40) boulicrok - use better teams dcae
KSG (50) vs (50) Laroxyl - i still have faith in ksg he could easily be 2-1 rn
Toadow (55) vs (45) Wail Wailord - toadows last 2 teams have been pretty good so i favour him but im predicting wail bc go wail
Luthier (55) vs (45) kythier - not too sure about this bc luthier might be washed, but at least i know hes playing a ton of practice games to shake off the rust. kythr hasnt been great
 

Gray

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LC: LilyAC vs Toadow
LC: Luthier vs KSG
LC: kythr vs dcae
LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 

Surfy

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LC: LilyAC vs Toadow
LC: Luthier vs KSG
LC: kythr vs dcae
LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 
LC: LilyAC vs Toadow
LC: Luthier vs KSG
LC: kythr vs dcae
LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 
C: LilyAC vs Toadow
LC: Luthier vs KSG
LC: kythr vs dcae
LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 

DC

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Week 4 Recap
[TMS] LilyAC vs daunt vs [BRE] - replay
[SHO] dcae vs Boulicrok [ISL] - replay
[TER] KSG vs Laroxyl [SPA] - replay
[FOX] Toadow vs Wail Wailord [DYN] - replay
[GIB] Luthier vs kythr [PLA] - replay

Cumulative Usage

Code:
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Mienfoo            |   38 |  95.00% |  50.00% |
| 2    | Koffing            |   21 |  52.50% |  52.38% |
| 3    | Ferroseed          |   20 |  50.00% |  55.00% |
| 4    | Staryu             |   19 |  47.50% |  52.63% |
| 4    | Pawniard           |   19 |  47.50% |  42.11% |
| 6    | Grookey            |   14 |  35.00% |  50.00% |
| 7    | Diglett            |   13 |  32.50% |  46.15% |
| 8    | Ponyta             |   11 |  27.50% |  63.64% |
| 9    | Natu               |   10 |  25.00% |  60.00% |
| 9    | Mudbray            |   10 |  25.00% |  50.00% |
| 11   | Ponyta-Galar       |    9 |  22.50% |  55.56% |
| 11   | Mareanie           |    9 |  22.50% |  55.56% |
| 11   | Abra               |    9 |  22.50% |  44.44% |
| 11   | Porygon            |    9 |  22.50% |  44.44% |
| 15   | Trapinch           |    7 |  17.50% |  57.14% |
| 15   | Foongus            |    7 |  17.50% |  28.57% |
| 17   | Frillish           |    4 |  10.00% |  50.00% |
| 18   | Timburr            |    2 |   5.00% |  50.00% |
| 18   | Magnemite          |    2 |   5.00% |   0.00% |
| 20   | Zigzagoon          |    1 |   2.50% | 100.00% |
| 20   | Vulpix             |    1 |   2.50% | 100.00% |
| 20   | Charmander         |    1 |   2.50% | 100.00% |
| 20   | Shellder           |    1 |   2.50% |   0.00% |
| 20   | Wynaut             |    1 |   2.50% |   0.00% |
| 20   | Slowpoke           |    1 |   2.50% |   0.00% |
| 20   | Archen             |    1 |   2.50% |   0.00% |

Week 4 Usage

Code:
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Mienfoo            |    9 |  90.00% |  44.44% |
| 2    | Ferroseed          |    7 |  70.00% |  57.14% |
| 3    | Koffing            |    6 |  60.00% |  33.33% |
| 4    | Natu               |    5 |  50.00% |  80.00% |
| 5    | Diglett            |    4 |  40.00% |  50.00% |
| 5    | Ponyta-Galar       |    4 |  40.00% |  25.00% |
| 7    | Trapinch           |    3 |  30.00% |  66.67% |
| 7    | Ponyta             |    3 |  30.00% |  66.67% |
| 7    | Staryu             |    3 |  30.00% |  33.33% |
| 10   | Abra               |    2 |  20.00% | 100.00% |
| 10   | Mareanie           |    2 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 10   | Frillish           |    2 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 10   | Porygon            |    2 |  20.00% |   0.00% |
| 10   | Pawniard           |    2 |  20.00% |   0.00% |
| 15   | Vulpix             |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 15   | Charmander         |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 15   | Timburr            |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 15   | Mudbray            |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 15   | Grookey            |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 15   | Archen             |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |

Interesting Trends from Week 4:
  1. More Team Diversity: This week, we saw more offensive archetype being brought, like dcae's Psychic-spam and Laroxyl's sun team.
  2. God Natu chan: Everyone's new favorite bird made 5 appearances this week and won in 4 of them. It takes advantage of Pawniard's lackluster usage and the rise of FerroKoff cores to wreak havoc.
  3. Fall of Grookey and Mudbray: Two Pokemon that were expected to dominate the metagame only made 2 total appearances combined this week.
  4. Variance???: Team compositions are more varied compared to the earlier weeks, showcasing that the meta might have stabilized a bit (even if Speed tie central is still prevalent).
Scores for LC Prediction Tour (Updated for Week 4):
https://pokepast.es/68884c0d9a0ab046

Might as well put my own predictions:
LilyAC vs Toadow - Toadow brought Water resist Porygon into LO Staryu and nearly won so this might be closer than expected, but I think Lily is one of the few people that can exploit this style of building.
Luthier vs KSG - KSG has looked tilted the past two weeks, and I dont expect this to stop. Luthier had a pretty good showing with a pretty solid win over kythr and a solid team.
kythr vs dcae - I liked dcae's build and hope to see more of these unorthodox and slightly fishy builds.
Wail Wailord vs daunt vs - He's bringing my build so he can't lose
Laroxyl vs Boulicrok - I respect bringing the sun team so he gets the bold. I do think Bouli letting Mienfoo take a para against dcae's team with Fight resist Pony-G was a bit sloppy by his standards.
 

TJ

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LC: LilyAC vs Toadow
LC: Luthier vs KSG
LC: kythr vs dcae
LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 

Spl4sh

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LC: LilyAC vs Toadow
LC: Luthier vs KSG
LC: kythr vs dcae
LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 
LC: LilyAC vs Toadow
LC: Luthier vs KSG
LC: kythr vs dcae
LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 

Éric

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lilyac vs toadow: lily is lily and shes looking great
Luthier vs ksg: i feel like ksg has lost motivation even though hes been doing good
Kythr vs dcae: im still a kythr believer but hes 1-3 and against dcae
Wail wailord vs daunt vs: if i get this right daunt will lose the bet and if i dont daunt will be 5-0 in scl so win/win
Laroxyl vs boulicrok: laro believer
 

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LC: LilyAC vs Toadow
LC: Luthier vs KSG
LC: kythr vs dcae
LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 
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LC: LilyAC vs Toadow
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LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 

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LC: LilyAC vs Toadow
LC: Luthier vs KSG
LC: kythr vs dcae
LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 

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LC: LilyAC vs Toadow
LC: Luthier vs KSG
LC: kythr vs dcae
LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 

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LC: LilyAC vs Toadow
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LC: kythr vs dcae
LC: Wail Wailord vs daunt vs
LC: Laroxyl vs boulicrok
 

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