NOC Secret Hitler Mafia - Game Thread [FASCISTS WIN]

I thought pigeon would claim a PR in a bad position to lure them into counterclaiming and getting themselves killed, but that’s a pointless idea with the kill being one shot and another PR being claimed
 
Blazade said:
I didn't realize I had this super power to make people claim. I am not or should not be the only one casting votes and playing this game. I should not be the sole reason that anyone dies.
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everyone seems more or less on the same page that people who were president are going to get voted off or vigged until we hit at least 1 mafia. Since vigilantes have to make a decision durong night and no one can claim then, I think its fine for people in the president pool to claim, especially if they are a vt.
 
finger of suspicion

basically, "i think those folks are likely to be bad". similar to process of elimination (poe) but like from an opposite direction w.r.t. how the narrowing happens
 
Blazade said:
or why amyone's still doubting saber after passing the policies randomly at this point
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I believe Saber was in fact dealt 5 fascist policies. But that doesnt make him town. He could be Hitler and have received 5 fascist policies and is now engaging in damage control.

Also if he were an Anarchist he probably would want 1 lib 1 fasc policy anyways.

Like Saber said, he could have tried to frame a chancellor if he were mafia, but if he frames town he gets voted 100% of the time afterwards. If Saber is cult leader then he absolutely cant afford that. If hes fascist then I guess he could try to frame.

Are you seeing this from a probability lens? My perspective is that he 100% did receive 5 fascist policies.

If I were to look at the other presidents, Carl is conftown and I know Im town. If there is a president who discarded a liberal policy it was either Fairy or CK (randomly). Its also possible that no one did discard a L policy cause Im quite certain that Saber, me and Carl did not.
 
AngryPidgeon said:
I believe Saber was in fact dealt 5 fascist policies. But that doesnt make him town. He could be Hitler and have received 5 fascist policies and is now engaging in damage control.

Also if he were an Anarchist he probably would want 1 lib 1 fasc policy anyways.

Like Saber said, he could have tried to frame a chancellor if he were mafia, but if he frames town he gets voted 100% of the time afterwards. If Saber is cult leader then he absolutely cant afford that. If hes fascist then I guess he could try to frame.

Are you seeing this from a probability lens? My perspective is that he 100% did receive 5 fascist policies.

If I were to look at the other presidents, Carl is conftown and I know Im town. If there is a president who discarded a liberal policy it was either Fairy or CK (randomly). Its also possible that no one did discard a L policy cause Im quite certain that Saber, me and Carl did not.
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I agree that as mafia or anarchist receiving 5 policies saver would want to try to survive rather than take a 50-50, which is why I wasn't buying any of his earlier logic. But I think coming up with the plan to not nominate a chancellor and have them be sent randomly shows initiative that is uncharacteristic of a mafia member in that slot.

Given that, he is mathematically exactly normal odds to be mafia, and imo because of the initiative more likely to be town. But I understand your perspective better now. You think this demonstrates a greater than normal drive for survival which a VT wouldn't have in this spot. That's reasonable as an argument to me.

Vote: a fairy

You've been popping in every now and then. Do you have any new thoughts?
 
i don't have any thoughts really, no. it sucks that we're abt to go +2 fascist but i maintain what i said earlier abt losing potentially 2 town and not thinking through what it might actually result in end-game wise.
 
before the day ends, is there anyone that town wants me to jail for tonight? if i get SJ'd i'd like to clear at least one person (while even if i don't get SJ'd they're not necessarily the anarchist)
 
a fairy said:
i don't have any thoughts really, no. it sucks that we're abt to go +2 fascist but i maintain what i said earlier abt losing potentially 2 town and not thinking through what it might actually result in end-game wise.
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Fascists need 12 policies to win, 8 with Hitler. We need to start nominating named towns as chancellor. Presumably anarchists will try to prevent either faction from winning outright with legislation so they may be tacitly pro-town after this.

But I do kind of agree we may need to start voting people off since fascists are about to take a lead in legislation. If we vig a fascist tonight, especially if its hitler, then Id feel good about not voting next day. But if forced vig hits town, it may be good to try and remove one mafia by vote. If we vig either hitler or cult leader, then we prob are good to return to legislation win.

The recruit is the least important enemy to catch. Pretty much never off a PR claim even if they are effectively confirmed recruited.
 
my inclination would be unless we have a stronger understanding of what voting today will do and there isnt major pushback, id rather have the policy gun go off first
 
Current Votecount - 15 minutes or so until deadline.

a fairy [1]: Blazade
Not voting [9]: CrreamyKitty, Blazade, des121, thechickening, Munchy_Axolotls, a fairy, saberslasher11, Carl The Turtle, AngryPidgeon, Evie

If the day ended right now, a fairy would be voted out.

Let me know of any errors ASAP.

Blazade said:
We're also at the point where there there are at most 5 more votes before the game ends, and probably around 3 or 4 realistically. I'm assuming that if the policies that would end the game are approved at the same time a vote occurs that would create a fascist or anarchist majority, the policy victory takes precedence Dead by Daylight can you clarify?
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Yes, the policy victory takes precedence.

AngryPidgeon said:
Dead by Daylight Anarchists are allowed to talk in discord at any time, y/n?
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No, they are not allowed to communicate outside of the thread.
 
That's deadline, final votecount is as follows.

No vote [2]: a fairy, thechickening
a fairy [1]: Blazade
saberslasher11 [1]: Carl The Turtle
Not voting [6]: CrreamyKitty, des121, Munchy_Axolotls, saberslasher11, AngryPidgeon, Evie

Yet again, nobody was voted off. Night 5 will end tomorrow at 9 PM GMT-4. Please get your night orders in ASAP.

Edit: For future reference, I will not be counting votes that are not in the proper format. It's Day 5 by now.
 
AngryPidgeon said:
This one? I mean I agree with Blazade that the pool of presidents almost certainly has a mafia in it. I know I said that. Part of the point of me asking you os to see who is on your mind without me guiding you somewhere.

Im left to conclude you dont have particularly strong reads since you are asking me who you should mention.

Start with Saber if you want, hes the most controversial figure atm and the only claim.
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I don't have particularly strong reads because I'm still learning how to make em.
 
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