Self-KO clause

Antar · Mar 23, 2012

I share with you a conversation I had with a friend.

[12:24:56 PM] ZellMurasame: I just encountered a problem with PO (not sure if you deal with it but I bet you know who does).
[12:26:31 PM] ZellMurasame: I was playing a ladder match with Self KO Clause. He attacked me and died to LO at the same time, PO dropped a "Self KO clause acted as a tiebreaker" (which shouldn't it be a win for me?) but I ended up losing points.
[12:29:48 PM] ZellMurasame: (12:17:41) +Desolate: There's no way we can reverse it or anything.
(12:18:00) ZellMurasame: No, but you can fix the program.
(12:18:05) ZellMurasame: It's clearly broken.
(12:18:14) +Desolate: I'll remember that.
[10:35:40 AM] Antar1011: hmm...
[10:35:50 AM] Antar1011: IIRC, self-KO isn't a standard rule, is it?
[10:36:06 AM] Antar1011: are you sure this was ladder?
[10:37:33 AM] ZellMurasame: Yes.
[10:37:38 AM] Antar1011: yeah, I just reread
[10:37:46 AM] ZellMurasame: And it pops up in the list.
[10:38:27 AM] Antar1011: I thought self-ko just referred to explosion
[10:38:42 AM] ZellMurasame: I'unno.
[10:38:55 AM] ZellMurasame: I just didn't like seeing it was a tie then losing points.
[10:39:07 AM] ZellMurasame: Either way something is broken.
[10:39:11 AM] Antar1011: you shouldn't lose points in a tie
[10:39:23 AM] Antar1011: so PO told you: "Self KO clause acted as a tiebreaker" ?
[10:39:29 AM] ZellMurasame: Yes.
[10:39:43 AM] Antar1011: that is very strange
[10:39:51 AM] Antar1011: but we're the wrong people to be bugging
[10:39:57 AM] Antar1011: you should take it up with PO
[10:40:01 AM] Antar1011: since they're the developers
[10:40:15 AM] Antar1011: I'll investigate on my own, though
[10:40:19 AM] ZellMurasame: I figured since it was a clause related thing it would be server specific.
[10:40:20 AM] Antar1011: I might be able to apply a patch
[10:40:32 AM] Antar1011: no, it means that self-ko isn't working correctly
[10:40:37 AM] Antar1011: that battle should have been a tie
[10:40:57 AM] Antar1011: and if it told gave you that message, it should have been a win for you
[10:41:04 AM] Antar1011: but IMO, LO recoil = tie

Now, ordinarily, as I told him, this is the kind of stuff that should be directed towards PO. But if it's something simple to fix, I'd like to see if I can implement a patch.

So has anyone else had a problem with self-KO clause doing this? And, more importantly, is it wrong?

Steamroll · Mar 23, 2012

I have heard complaints about KO clause before but they are extremely rare and usually happen in events like with the user you were talking to. I am not sure about the clause but I know it doesn't disallow explosion (because I used to ladder with a CB explosion Ferrothorn to be an ass). I believe it comes down to 1-1 events were both mons are KO'd at the same time via LO, rocky helmet, aftermath, etc. This seriously should just be ruled a tie and no points are awarded to either battler but Self-KO clause is so rare an occurance I don't really know.

Antar · Mar 23, 2012

Steamroll said:
This seriously should just be ruled a tie and no points are awarded to either battler but Self-KO clause is so rare an occurance I don't really know.

I agree.

Here are two (anonymized) battle logs:

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<!DOCTYPE html><!-- Pokemon Online battle log (version 3.0) -->
<head>
	<title>Player 1 vs Player 2</title>
</head><body><span class="BattleStart"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Battle between Player 1 and Player 2 started!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="Teams"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Player 1's team:</span></b>Drifblim / Vigoroth / Ampharos / Sawk / Audino / Dragonair</span><br />
<span class="Teams"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Player 2's team:</span></b>Braviary / Carracosta / Leavanny / Cryogonal / Magmortar / Stunfisk</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="Tier"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Tier: </span></b>Standard NU</span><br />
<span class="Mode"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Mode: </span></b>Singles</span><br />
<span class="Variation"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Variation: </span></b>+15, -17</span><br />
<span class="Variation"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Variation: </span></b>+37, -33</span><br />
<span class="Rated"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Rule: </span></b>Rated</span><br />
<span class="Clause"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Rule: </span></b>Sleep Clause</span><br />
<span class="Clause"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Rule: </span></b>Species Clause</span><br />
<span class="Clause"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Rule: </span></b>Wifi Battle</span><br />
<span class="Clause"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Rule: </span></b>Self-KO Clause</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Vigoroth!</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's previous position in the team: 0.-->
<!--Vigoroth's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Vigoroth's life: 100%.-->
<!--Vigoroth's status: fine.-->
<!--Vigoroth's level: 100.-->
<!--Vigoroth's shininess: 1.-->
<!--Vigoroth's gender: Female.-->
<span class="SendOut">Player 2 sent out Talons! (Braviary)</span><br />
<!--Talons's previous position in the team: 0.-->
<!--Talons's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Talons's life: 100%.-->
<!--Talons's status: fine.-->
<!--Talons's level: 100.-->
<!--Talons's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Talons's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 1!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Talons used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Superpower</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective"><span style='color:#0000ff'>It's super effective!</span></span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Vigoroth lost 314 HP! (86% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's new HP is 50/364.-->
<span class="StatChange">Talons's Attack fell!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Talons's Defense fell!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Vigoroth used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Slack Off</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="MoveMessage">Vigoroth regained health!</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's new HP is 232/364.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 2!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="SendBack">Player 1 called Vigoroth back!</span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Drifblim!</span><br />
<!--Drifblim's previous position in the team: 3.-->
<!--Drifblim's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Drifblim's life: 100%.-->
<!--Drifblim's status: fine.-->
<!--Drifblim's level: 100.-->
<!--Drifblim's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Drifblim's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Talons used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Superpower</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective">It had no effect!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 3!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="SendBack">Player 2 called Talons back!</span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 2 sent out Cryogonal!</span><br />
<!--Cryogonal's previous position in the team: 3.-->
<!--Cryogonal's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Cryogonal's life: 100%.-->
<!--Cryogonal's status: fine.-->
<!--Cryogonal's level: 100.-->
<!--Cryogonal's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Cryogonal's gender: Neutral.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Drifblim used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Calm Mind</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Drifblim's Sp. Att. rose!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Drifblim's Sp. Def. rose!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 4!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Ice Beam</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective"><span style='color:#0000ff'>It's super effective!</span></span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Drifblim lost 252 HP! (55% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Drifblim's new HP is 204/456.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Drifblim used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Shadow Ball</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Cryogonal lost 97 HP! (28% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Cryogonal's new HP is 247/344.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Cryogonal restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Cryogonal's new HP is 268/344.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 5!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="SendBack">Player 1 called Drifblim back!</span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Audino!</span><br />
<!--Audino's previous position in the team: 4.-->
<!--Audino's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Audino's life: 100%.-->
<!--Audino's status: fine.-->
<!--Audino's level: 100.-->
<!--Audino's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Audino's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Ice Beam</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Audino lost 91 HP! (22% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 319/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Cryogonal restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Cryogonal's new HP is 289/344.-->
<span class="ItemMessage">Audino restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 344/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 6!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Toxic</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StatusChange">Audino was badly poisoned!</span><br />
<!--Audino had its status changed to: poisoned.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: poisoned.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Audino used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Thunder Wave</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StatusChange">Cryogonal is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!</span><br />
<!--Cryogonal had its status changed to: paralyzed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 2 had its status changed to: paralyzed.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Audino restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 369/410.-->
<span class="ItemMessage">Cryogonal restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Cryogonal's new HP is 310/344.-->
<span class="StatusMessage">Audino is hurt by poison!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 344/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 7!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Audino used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Wish</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Ice Beam</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Audino lost 82 HP! (20% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 262/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Audino restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 287/410.-->
<span class="ItemMessage">Cryogonal restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Cryogonal's new HP is 331/344.-->
<span class="StatusMessage">Audino is hurt by poison!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 236/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 8!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="SendBack">Player 1 called Audino back!</span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Vigoroth!</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's previous position in the team: 3.-->
<!--Vigoroth's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Vigoroth's life: 63%.-->
<!--Vigoroth's status: fine.-->
<!--Vigoroth's level: 100.-->
<!--Vigoroth's shininess: 1.-->
<!--Vigoroth's gender: Female.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Ice Beam</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Vigoroth lost 102 HP! (28% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's new HP is 130/364.-->
<span class="StatusChange">Vigoroth was frozen solid!</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth had its status changed to: frozen.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: frozen.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="MoveMessage">Audino's wish came true!</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's new HP is 335/364.-->
<span class="ItemMessage">Cryogonal restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Cryogonal's new HP is 344/344.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 9!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="SendBack">Player 1 called Vigoroth back!</span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Audino!</span><br />
<!--Audino's previous position in the team: 3.-->
<!--Audino's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Audino's life: 57%.-->
<!--Audino's status: poisoned.-->
<!--Audino's level: 100.-->
<!--Audino's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Audino's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Toxic</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="AlreadyStatusMessage">Audino is already poisoned.</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Audino restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 261/410.-->
<span class="StatusMessage">Audino is hurt by poison!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 236/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 10!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Audino used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Heal Bell</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="MoveMessage">A bell chimed!</span><br />
<!--Audino had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 1 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 2 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 3 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 4 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 5 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Ice Beam</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Audino lost 82 HP! (20% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 154/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Audino restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 179/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 11!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Audino used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Wish</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Ice Beam</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Audino lost 85 HP! (20% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 94/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Audino restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 119/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 12!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Audino used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Thunder Wave</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="AlreadyStatusMessage">Cryogonal is already paralyzed.</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Toxic</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StatusChange">Audino was badly poisoned!</span><br />
<!--Audino had its status changed to: poisoned.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: poisoned.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="MoveMessage">Audino's wish came true!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 324/410.-->
<span class="ItemMessage">Audino restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 349/410.-->
<span class="StatusMessage">Audino is hurt by poison!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 324/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 13!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="SendBack">Player 1 called Audino back!</span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Vigoroth!</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's previous position in the team: 3.-->
<!--Vigoroth's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Vigoroth's life: 92%.-->
<!--Vigoroth's status: fine.-->
<!--Vigoroth's level: 100.-->
<!--Vigoroth's shininess: 1.-->
<!--Vigoroth's gender: Female.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Ice Beam</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Vigoroth lost 106 HP! (29% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's new HP is 229/364.-->
<span class="StatusChange">Vigoroth was frozen solid!</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth had its status changed to: frozen.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: frozen.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="PlayerChat"><span style='color:green'><b>Player 1: </b></span>WOW</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 14!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="SendBack">Player 1 called Vigoroth back!</span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Audino!</span><br />
<!--Audino's previous position in the team: 3.-->
<!--Audino's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Audino's life: 79%.-->
<!--Audino's status: poisoned.-->
<!--Audino's level: 100.-->
<!--Audino's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Audino's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Toxic</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="AlreadyStatusMessage">Audino is already poisoned.</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Audino restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 349/410.-->
<span class="StatusMessage">Audino is hurt by poison!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 324/410.-->
<span class="PlayerChat"><span style='color:#5811b1'><b>Player 2: </b></span>LOL</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 15!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Audino used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Heal Bell</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="MoveMessage">A bell chimed!</span><br />
<!--Audino had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 1 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 2 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 3 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 4 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 5 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Ice Beam</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Audino lost 87 HP! (21% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 237/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Audino restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 262/410.-->
<span class="PlayerChat"><span style='color:#5811b1'><b>Player 2: </b></span>that's some shit luck</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 16!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Audino used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Wish</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Ice Beam</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Audino lost 91 HP! (22% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 171/410.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Audino restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 196/410.-->
<span class="PlayerChat"><span style='color:green'><b>Player 1: </b></span>oh well</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 17!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="SendBack">Player 1 called Audino back!</span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Vigoroth!</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's previous position in the team: 3.-->
<!--Vigoroth's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Vigoroth's life: 62%.-->
<!--Vigoroth's status: fine.-->
<!--Vigoroth's level: 100.-->
<!--Vigoroth's shininess: 1.-->
<!--Vigoroth's gender: Female.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="StatusMessage">Cryogonal is paralyzed! It can't move!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="MoveMessage">Audino's wish came true!</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's new HP is 364/364.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 18!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Vigoroth used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Bulk Up</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Vigoroth's Attack rose!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Vigoroth's Defense rose!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Cryogonal used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Ice Beam</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Vigoroth lost 102 HP! (28% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's new HP is 262/364.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 19!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Vigoroth used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Return</span></b>!</span><br />
<!--Cryogonal's new HP is 0/344.-->
<span class="StraightDamage">Cryogonal lost 344 HP! (100% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Cryogonal had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 2 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Cryogonal fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 2 sent out Talons! (Braviary)</span><br />
<!--Talons's previous position in the team: 3.-->
<!--Talons's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Talons's life: 100%.-->
<!--Talons's status: fine.-->
<!--Talons's level: 100.-->
<!--Talons's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Talons's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 20!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Talons used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Superpower</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective"><span style='color:#0000ff'>It's super effective!</span></span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Vigoroth lost 218 HP! (59% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's new HP is 44/364.-->
<span class="StatChange">Talons's Attack fell!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Talons's Defense fell!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Vigoroth used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Slack Off</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="MoveMessage">Vigoroth regained health!</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's new HP is 226/364.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 21!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Talons used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Superpower</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective"><span style='color:#0000ff'>It's super effective!</span></span><br />
<span class="CriticalHit"><span style='color:#6b0000'>A critical hit!</span></span><br />
<!--Vigoroth's new HP is 0/364.-->
<span class="StraightDamage">Vigoroth lost 226 HP! (62% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Vigoroth had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Vigoroth fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Talons's Attack fell!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Talons's Defense fell!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Drifblim!</span><br />
<!--Drifblim's previous position in the team: 4.-->
<!--Drifblim's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Drifblim's life: 44%.-->
<!--Drifblim's status: fine.-->
<!--Drifblim's level: 100.-->
<!--Drifblim's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Drifblim's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 22!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="SendBack">Player 2 called Talons back!</span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 2 sent out Kakarot! (Carracosta)</span><br />
<!--Kakarot's previous position in the team: 1.-->
<!--Kakarot's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Kakarot's life: 100%.-->
<!--Kakarot's status: fine.-->
<!--Kakarot's level: 100.-->
<!--Kakarot's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Kakarot's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Drifblim used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Rest</span></b>!</span><br />
<!--Drifblim's new HP is 456/456.-->
<span class="MoveMessage">Drifblim went to sleep and became healthy!</span><br />
<!--Drifblim had its status changed to: asleep.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: asleep.-->
<span class="ItemMessage">Drifblim ate its Chesto Berry!</span><br />
<!--Drifblim had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<span class="ItemMessage">Drifblim woke up!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 23!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Drifblim used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Thunderbolt</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective"><span style='color:#0000ff'>It's super effective!</span></span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Kakarot lost 193 HP! (66% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Kakarot's new HP is 97/290.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Kakarot used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Shell Smash</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Kakarot's Defense fell!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Kakarot's Sp. Def. fell!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Kakarot's Attack sharply rose!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Kakarot's Sp. Att. sharply rose!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Kakarot's Speed sharply rose!</span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Kakarot restored its stats using White Herb!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 24!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Drifblim used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Thunderbolt</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective"><span style='color:#0000ff'>It's super effective!</span></span><br />
<!--Kakarot's new HP is 0/290.-->
<span class="StraightDamage">Kakarot lost 97 HP! (33% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Kakarot had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 2 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Kakarot fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 2 sent out Stunfisk!</span><br />
<!--Stunfisk's previous position in the team: 5.-->
<!--Stunfisk's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Stunfisk's life: 100%.-->
<!--Stunfisk's status: fine.-->
<!--Stunfisk's level: 100.-->
<!--Stunfisk's shininess: 1.-->
<!--Stunfisk's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 25!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Drifblim used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Calm Mind</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Drifblim's Sp. Att. rose!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Drifblim's Sp. Def. rose!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Stunfisk used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Toxic</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StatusChange">Drifblim was badly poisoned!</span><br />
<!--Drifblim had its status changed to: poisoned.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: poisoned.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="StatusMessage">Drifblim is hurt by poison!</span><br />
<!--Drifblim's new HP is 428/456.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 26!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Drifblim used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Shadow Ball</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Stunfisk lost 144 HP! (34% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Stunfisk's new HP is 278/422.-->
<span class="StatChange">Stunfisk's Sp. Def. fell!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Stunfisk used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Discharge</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective"><span style='color:#0000ff'>It's super effective!</span></span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Drifblim lost 158 HP! (34% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Drifblim's new HP is 270/456.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Stunfisk restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Stunfisk's new HP is 304/422.-->
<span class="StatusMessage">Drifblim is hurt by poison!</span><br />
<!--Drifblim's new HP is 213/456.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 27!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Drifblim used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Rest</span></b>!</span><br />
<!--Drifblim's new HP is 456/456.-->
<span class="MoveMessage">Drifblim went to sleep and became healthy!</span><br />
<!--Drifblim had its status changed to: asleep.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: asleep.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Stunfisk used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Scald</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Drifblim lost 61 HP! (13% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Drifblim's new HP is 395/456.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Stunfisk restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Stunfisk's new HP is 330/422.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 28!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="StatusMessage">Drifblim is fast asleep!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Stunfisk used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Discharge</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective"><span style='color:#0000ff'>It's super effective!</span></span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Drifblim lost 164 HP! (35% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Drifblim's new HP is 231/456.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Stunfisk restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Stunfisk's new HP is 356/422.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 29!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="StatusMessage">Drifblim is fast asleep!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Stunfisk used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Discharge</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective"><span style='color:#0000ff'>It's super effective!</span></span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Drifblim lost 170 HP! (37% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Drifblim's new HP is 61/456.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Stunfisk restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Stunfisk's new HP is 382/422.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 30!</span></b></span><br />
<!--Drifblim had its status changed to: fine.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: fine.-->
<span class="StatusMessage">Drifblim woke up!</span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Drifblim used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Shadow Ball</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Stunfisk lost 235 HP! (55% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Stunfisk's new HP is 147/422.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Stunfisk used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Discharge</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective"><span style='color:#0000ff'>It's super effective!</span></span><br />
<!--Drifblim's new HP is 0/456.-->
<span class="StraightDamage">Drifblim lost 61 HP! (13% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Drifblim had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Drifblim fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Stunfisk restored a little HP using its Leftovers!</span><br />
<!--Stunfisk's new HP is 173/422.-->
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Sawk!</span><br />
<!--Sawk's previous position in the team: 1.-->
<!--Sawk's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Sawk's life: 100%.-->
<!--Sawk's status: fine.-->
<!--Sawk's level: 100.-->
<!--Sawk's shininess: 1.-->
<!--Sawk's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 31!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Sawk used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Close Combat</span></b>!</span><br />
<!--Stunfisk's new HP is 0/422.-->
<span class="StraightDamage">Stunfisk lost 173 HP! (40% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Stunfisk had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 2 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Stunfisk fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="AbilityMessage">Stunfisk's Static activates!</span><br />
<span class="StatusChange">Sawk is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!</span><br />
<!--Sawk had its status changed to: paralyzed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: paralyzed.-->
<span class="StatChange">Sawk's Defense fell!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Sawk's Sp. Def. fell!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 2 sent out Magmortar!</span><br />
<!--Magmortar's previous position in the team: 4.-->
<!--Magmortar's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Magmortar's life: 100%.-->
<!--Magmortar's status: fine.-->
<!--Magmortar's level: 100.-->
<!--Magmortar's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Magmortar's gender: Female.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 32!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Magmortar used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Fire Blast</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="AbilityMessage">Sawk held on thanks to Sturdy!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Sawk lost 291 HP! (99% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Sawk's new HP is 1/292.-->
<span class="ItemMessage">Magmortar is hurt by its Life Orb!</span><br />
<!--Magmortar's new HP is 263/292.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Sawk used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Close Combat</span></b>!</span><br />
<!--Magmortar's new HP is 0/292.-->
<span class="StraightDamage">Magmortar lost 263 HP! (90% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Magmortar had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 2 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Magmortar fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Sawk's Defense fell!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Sawk's Sp. Def. fell!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 2 sent out Annie! (Leavanny)</span><br />
<!--Annie's previous position in the team: 2.-->
<!--Annie's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Annie's life: 100%.-->
<!--Annie's status: fine.-->
<!--Annie's level: 100.-->
<!--Annie's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Annie's gender: Female.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 33!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Annie used <b><span style='color:#000000'>X-Scissor</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Effective"><span style='color:#a0a0a4'>It's not very effective...</span></span><br />
<span class="CriticalHit"><span style='color:#6b0000'>A critical hit!</span></span><br />
<!--Sawk's new HP is 0/292.-->
<span class="StraightDamage">Sawk lost 1 HP! (0% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Sawk had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Sawk fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Annie is hurt by its Life Orb!</span><br />
<!--Annie's new HP is 263/292.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Dragonair!</span><br />
<!--Dragonair's previous position in the team: 5.-->
<!--Dragonair's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Dragonair's life: 100%.-->
<!--Dragonair's status: fine.-->
<!--Dragonair's level: 100.-->
<!--Dragonair's shininess: 1.-->
<!--Dragonair's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="PlayerChat"><span style='color:#5811b1'><b>Player 2: </b></span>i'm fucked</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 34!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Annie used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Swords Dance</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Annie's Attack sharply rose!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Dragonair used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Dragon Dance</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Dragonair's Attack rose!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Dragonair's Speed rose!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 35!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Annie used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Swords Dance</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StatChange">Annie's Attack sharply rose!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Dragonair used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Outrage</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Annie lost 208 HP! (71% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Annie's new HP is 55/292.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 36!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Annie used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Baton Pass</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="SendBack">Player 2 called Annie back!</span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 2 sent out Talons! (Braviary)</span><br />
<!--Talons's previous position in the team: 1.-->
<!--Talons's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Talons's life: 100%.-->
<!--Talons's status: fine.-->
<!--Talons's level: 100.-->
<!--Talons's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Talons's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Dragonair used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Outrage</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Talons lost 228 HP! (66% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Talons's new HP is 113/341.-->
<span class="MoveMessage">Dragonair calmed down!</span><br />
<span class="StatusChange">Dragonair became confused!</span><br />
<!--Dragonair had its status changed to: confused.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 37!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Talons used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Brave Bird</span></b>!</span><br />
<!--Dragonair's new HP is 0/326.-->
<span class="StraightDamage">Dragonair lost 326 HP! (100% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Dragonair had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Dragonair fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="Recoil">Talons is hit with recoil!</span><br />
<!--Talons's new HP is 6/341.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Audino!</span><br />
<!--Audino's previous position in the team: 3.-->
<!--Audino's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Audino's life: 47%.-->
<!--Audino's status: fine.-->
<!--Audino's level: 100.-->
<!--Audino's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Audino's gender: Male.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 38!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Talons used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Brave Bird</span></b>!</span><br />
<!--Audino's new HP is 0/410.-->
<span class="StraightDamage">Audino lost 196 HP! (47% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Audino had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Audino fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="Recoil">Talons is hit with recoil!</span><br />
<!--Talons's new HP is 0/341.-->
<!--Talons had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 2 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Talons fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 1 sent out Ampharos!</span><br />
<!--Ampharos's previous position in the team: 2.-->
<!--Ampharos's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Ampharos's life: 100%.-->
<!--Ampharos's status: fine.-->
<!--Ampharos's level: 100.-->
<!--Ampharos's shininess: 1.-->
<!--Ampharos's gender: Female.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="SendOut">Player 2 sent out Annie! (Leavanny)</span><br />
<!--Annie's previous position in the team: 1.-->
<!--Annie's new place on the field: 0.-->
<!--Annie's life: 18%.-->
<!--Annie's status: fine.-->
<!--Annie's level: 100.-->
<!--Annie's shininess: 0.-->
<!--Annie's gender: Female.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 39!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Annie used <b><span style='color:#000000'>X-Scissor</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="StraightDamage">Ampharos lost 322 HP! (86% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Ampharos's new HP is 51/373.-->
<span class="ItemMessage">Annie is hurt by its Life Orb!</span><br />
<!--Annie's new HP is 26/292.-->
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Ampharos used <b><span style='color:#000000'>Focus Blast</span></b>!</span><br />
<span class="Miss">The attack of Ampharos missed!</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="PlayerChat"><span style='color:#5811b1'><b>Player 2: </b></span>lol</span><br />
<span class="PlayerChat"><span style='color:green'><b>Player 1: </b></span>FUCK I KNEW IT</span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="BeginTurn"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Start of turn 40!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="UseAttack">Annie used <b><span style='color:#000000'>X-Scissor</span></b>!</span><br />
<!--Ampharos's new HP is 0/373.-->
<span class="StraightDamage">Ampharos lost 51 HP! (13% of its health)</span><br />
<!--Ampharos had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 1 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Ampharos fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="ItemMessage">Annie is hurt by its Life Orb!</span><br />
<!--Annie's new HP is 0/292.-->
<!--Annie had its status changed to: koed.-->
<!--Pokemon number 0 of Player 2 had its status changed to: koed.-->
<span class="Ko"><b>Annie fainted!</b></span><br />
<span class="Space"></span><br />
<span class="ClauseMessage">The Self-KO Clause acted as a tiebreaker.</span><br />
<span class="BattleEnd"><b><span style='color:#0000ff'>Player 2 won the battle!</span></b></span><br />
<span class="PlayerChat"><span style='color:#5811b1'><b>Player 2: </b></span>GG ^^</span><br />
<span class="PlayerChat"><span style='color:#5811b1'><b>Player 2: </b></span>XD</span><br />
<span class="PlayerChat"><span style='color:#5811b1'><b>Player 2: </b></span>GG</span><br />
<span class="PlayerChat"><span style='color:green'><b>Player 1: </b></span>gg man XD</span><br />

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<title>Player 1 vs Player 2</title>
</head><body>Battle between Player 1 and Player 2 started! 
 
Player 1's team:Darumaka / Ferroseed / Slowpoke 
Player 2's team:Drilbur / Croagunk / Frillish 
 
Tier: Standard LC 
Mode: Singles 
Rule: Unrated 
Rule: Sleep Clause 
Rule: Disallow Spects 
Rule: Species Clause 
Rule: Wifi Battle 
Rule: Self-KO Clause 
 






Player 1 sent out Darumaka! 







Player 2 sent out Croagunk! 







 
Start of turn 1! 
Croagunk used Fake Out! 
Darumaka lost 5 HP! (21% of its health) 

 
Darumaka flinched! 
 
Start of turn 2! 
Croagunk used Vacuum Wave! 
Darumaka lost 7 HP! (30% of its health) 

 
Darumaka used Flare Blitz! 

Croagunk lost 21 HP! (100% of its health) 


Croagunk fainted! 
Darumaka is hit with recoil! 

 
Player 2 sent out Frillish! 







 
Start of turn 3! 
Darumaka used Flare Blitz! 
It's not very effective... 
Frillish lost 8 HP! (32% of its health) 

Darumaka is hit with recoil! 

 
Frillish used Scald! 
It's super effective! 

Darumaka lost 3 HP! (13% of its health) 


Darumaka fainted! 
 
Player 1 sent out Ferroseed! 







 
Start of turn 4! 
Frillish used Will-O-Wisp! 
The attack of Frillish missed! 
 
Ferroseed used Leech Seed! 
Frillish was seeded! 
 
Frillish's health is sapped by leech seed. 

 
Start of turn 5! 
Frillish used Will-O-Wisp! 
The attack of Frillish missed! 
 
Ferroseed used Bullet Seed! 
It's super effective! 
Frillish lost 6 HP! (24% of its health) 

Frillish's Cursed Body activates! 
Ferroseed's Bullet Seed was disabled! 
Frillish lost 6 HP! (24% of its health) 

Hit 2 times! 
 
Frillish's health is sapped by leech seed. 



Frillish fainted! 
Player 1: hehe 
Player 2 sent out Drilbur! 







 
Player 1: blz 
Player 1: hax 
Player 1: ganho o jogo 
Player 1: kkkk 
 
Start of turn 6! 
Drilbur used Swords Dance! 
Drilbur's Attack sharply rose! 
 
Ferroseed used Leech Seed! 
Drilbur was seeded! 
 
Drilbur's health is sapped by leech seed. 

 
Start of turn 7! 
Player 1 called Ferroseed back! 
Player 1 sent out Slowpoke! 







 
Drilbur used Swords Dance! 
Drilbur's Attack sharply rose! 
 
Drilbur's health is sapped by leech seed. 

 
Start of turn 8! 
Drilbur used Earthquake! 
Slowpoke lost 25 HP! (89% of its health) 

 
Slowpoke used Scald! 
It's super effective! 
Drilbur lost 14 HP! (63% of its health) 

 
Drilbur's health is sapped by leech seed. 


 
Start of turn 9! 
Drilbur used Earthquake! 

Slowpoke lost 5 HP! (17% of its health) 


Slowpoke fainted! 
 
Player 1 sent out Ferroseed! 







 
Start of turn 10! 
Drilbur used Brick Break! 
It's super effective! 

Ferroseed lost 24 HP! (100% of its health) 


Ferroseed fainted! 
Ferroseed's Iron Barbs hurts Drilbur 



Drilbur fainted! 
 
The Self-KO Clause acted as a tiebreaker. 
Player 1 won the battle! [/CODE]

IMO, these both should have been declared ties. Ugh. Time to poke through PO's source code...

Antar · Mar 23, 2012

...and here's the relevant source code:

Code:

    if (recoil < 0) {
        inflictDamage(source, damage, source, false);

        /* Self KO Clause! */
        if (koed(source)) {
           [COLOR="Blue"][B][U] /* In VGC 2011 (gen 5), the user of the recoil move wins instead of losing with the Self KO Clause */[/U][/B][/COLOR]
           [B] if (gen() <= 4)
                selfKoer() = source;
            else
                selfKoer() = target;[/B]
        }
    } else  {
        if (hasWorkingItem(source, Item::BigRoot)) /* Big root */ {
            damage = damage * 13 / 10;
        }

        if (hasWorkingAbility(target, Ability::LiquidOoze)) {
            sendMoveMessage(1,2,source,Pokemon::Poison,target);
            inflictDamage(source,damage,source,false);

            /* Self KO Clause! */
            if (koed(source)) {
                if (gen() >= 5)
                    [B]selfKoer() = target;[/B]
            }
        } else {
            if (pokeMemory(source).value("HealBlockCount").toInt() > 0) {
                sendMoveMessage(60, 0, source);
            } else {
                healLife(source, damage);
            }
        }
    }
}

and

Code:

    if (c1*c2==0) {
        if (c1 + c2 == 0) {
            if ((clauses() & ChallengeInfo::SelfKO) && selfKoer() != -1) {
                notifyClause(ChallengeInfo::SelfKO);
                endBattle(Win, opponent(player(selfKoer())), player(selfKoer()));
            }
            endBattle(Tie, Player1, Player2);
        } else if (c1 == 0) {
            endBattle(Win, Player2, Player1);
        } else {
            endBattle(Win, Player1, Player2);
        }
    }

Relevant part: apparently the PO staff decided that they'd follow VGC 2011 rules. Need confirmation from someone who knows about VGC--is this a correct implementation of said rule?

Pidge · Mar 23, 2012

On a cartridge wi-fi battle, I believe it's actually impossible to tie. This is because in 5th gen, the game actually has an inherent Self-KO Clause. For these following videos, pay close attention to the ending message that says "Player defeated/lost against ____."

Life Orb user wins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESBCyHAK9yE
Destiny Bond user loses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxdP0ionlFA
Final Gambit user loses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HE8Mni3dxw
Rocky Helmet holder wins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpeFDBpxOAU

All these types of scenarios are explained here: http://www.pokemonvgc.com/static/pdf/VGC Regionals Tournament Operation_2011_EN.pdf

If you really wanted to emulate wi-fi battles on PO or any other simulator, you would remove Self-KO Clause from being optional, and implement it into the actual coding of all 5th gen battles.

Unbreakable · Mar 23, 2012

In response to Pidge's post (nice finds, btw!), it seems that the rule is implemented various ways based on the mechanics of the specific method used.

Destiny Bond/Final Gambit/Explosion has the user faint as an activation cost before the effect of the move resolves. Obviously, if the user of those moves got themselves into such a situation that they need to drag the opponent down with them, they were most likely (I say "likely" instead of "certainly" because lol hax) outplayed and don't deserve the win, so this interpretation makes sense.

The Rocky Helmet holder winning, however, is a bit less straightforward. In that example, note how damage from Bug Bite was applied, then Rocky Helmet's effect activated, then Scizor faints first after the effect of Rocky Helmet before Metagross bites it. Also, it's fairly common knowledge that LO recoil is applied after a KO is scored.

In all of these examples, a common thread can be found: The loser was the one whose last Pokemon fainted first. (In the case of the weather double kill, for once you can be glad that your opponent outspeeds you!)

Antar · Mar 23, 2012

So, bottom line: is PO is correctly implementing the VGC rule?

muffinhead · Mar 23, 2012

in vgc, recoil moves (double-edge, flare blitz), life orb recoil = user of move wins.

destiny bond, explosion selfdestruct = user of move loses.

edit: also at the bottom of the link that pidge posted is extremely important ( # of pokemon, then average % hp remaining, then # total hp, THEN bo1 match). is any of that implemented?

Antar · Mar 23, 2012

muffinhead said:
edit: also at the bottom of the link that pidge posted is extremely important ( # of pokemon, then average % hp remaining, then # total hp, THEN bo1 match). is any of that implemented?

Yes, partially. I can't remember how far down the line I went.

Stratos · Mar 30, 2012

It appears that, since Pidge is correct, at least based on my past experience, the only problem with Self-KO clause is the message. Zell correctly lost points, but he shouldn't have been told that the match was a tie.

Self-KO clause

Antar

Steamroll

huh?

Antar

Antar

Pidge

('◇')

Unbreakable

Antar

muffinhead

b202 wifi vgc

Antar

Stratos

Banned deucer.