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Tom the slowbro said:
Dang.

If I'm actually bugging anyone by being here, I shouldn't post anywhere near as much :( I was worried about that.
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I'm not going to quote the rest of your message since you're just backpedaling from your previous position when someone showed the slightest resistance. My comment wasn't directed fully at you, but at (a) forum users in general. Back in the day, when Firebot was a clique and Congregation was a complete trollfest, in order to "get it", usually people lurked around a while to see how people interacted. The ones who jumped right in with 4chan memes and the like were shunned not because they were new specifically, but because they didn't fit.

To cut to the chase, noobs are people who don't:
  • read the rules of smogon
  • read the rules of the forum you want to post in
  • read the forum wide/forum specific announcements
  • read the forum specific stickies since usually your questions are answered or there's a simple question simple answer thread
  • read the first three or so pages of the forum to see what's been going on lately

If a completely green user, fresh off the registration sheet at least SKIMS through those (especially the locked topics so you can at least see what NOT to do), then you won't be labeled a noob when you first start posting since at least you'll have a general idea of what is/isn't "acceptable". Acceptable is used loosely since in a forum posting is really loose, while in C&C its formulaic and rigid.

I really don't get why people all of a sudden stopped doing this when they signed up or were called out a couple times. As much as I sound like an elitist dick, I really think lurking should be encouraged more often.
 
I am not going to read Tennisace's post (too stressful), but I will apologize to him, because he had only a tiny tiny part in my troubles here.

Rules are a lot more relaxed here, consider yourself warned!
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is NOT enough warning for what happens in that forum. I thought that might mean grammar rules are relaxed. I have been frequently having bad chest pains because of what happened to me there. I'm trying to forget about my time at Smogon forums but it's hard.

My apologies to all the people who have been extremely nice to me here.

Having a place that's actually safe for new users to post about general things is ideal, but just giving better warning is necessary.
 
It's not a very stressful post. If you don't want to read it because you are intimidated or something, tennisace is simply explaining, in a nice way, why lurking should be encouraged, and by extension, actually practiced by new members. Just read the post, it's pretty good.

About your post prior to that, to paraphrase an old firebot rule that could be applied nearly everywhere on the internet, or even life, is that self-pity / guilt trips are neither funny nor will people actually feel sorry for you. It just makes the situation more awkward.
 
I don't want anyone to feel guilty.

(I did wind up reading most of the post by the way. My definition of "noob" was more like "newb" I guess.)

I am totally serious about the chest pain. I have to leave this thread.


edit: (Sorry if I scared anyone 0_0 I'm feeling better today.)

I do realize I've been given some really good advice in this thread. Lurk first, then post when I know what's going on. I'll try to do that in the future (elsewhere).

Even this thread is too stressful for me; I really have to try to stop going to Smogon forums altogether. I think I've provided a couple pieces of good advice here but obviously they're optional. Quite seriously, everybody here keep up your good work :) Hopefully this is my last post I ever make.
 
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