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Is a specially defensive Scizor usable to softcheck things like Magearna, Lele etc.? I need a reliable defogger and a special sponge since I've been losing to Lele a bit and I was hoping to compress the role with him since Mantine hasn't been working for me. Or are there other alternatives?
Spdef Scizor isn't that good most of the time. Especially if you mean non-mega. Both Lele and Magearna tend to carry HP Fire which usually 2hkos regardless.
I think Mantine or Mew might be you best option
If you mean non-mega, that is unviable. Magearna is a pretty good special sponge, especially regarding Lele. But as you want to compress the roles DragonKnightMaster has a decent idea, although specs lele can do heavy damage to mantine via psyshock and deal heavy damage to mew via moonblast.
What are the best Lucha checks for BO atm ?
Zapdos is a counter. Koko and Toxic Lando are pretty good checks
It's important to keep in mind that Koko has a high chance of being knocked out by a +2 Hawlucha's HJK after 2 stealth rock switch-ins, and a low chance of being taken out by a +2 Hawlucha's HJK after a single stealth rock switch-in.
+2 252+ Atk Hawlucha High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 210-248 (74.7 - 88.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO <------(the calc)
Sash Araquanid is arguably the best right now, as it can take some hits but moreso for having an offensive presence after having set them.
Araquanid, my man u coudve just looked ar the vr tho
Slurpuff is unviable for the most part as it doesn't bring much to the table outside of Unburden Endeavor, which is a cool gimmick but not worth using most of the time. Ribombee is also pretty trash because it doesn't do anything other than getting webs. Araquanid is the only viable Web setter out of the three because its bulk and raw power lets it take some hits and threaten a bunch of mons, check its analysis if u want more detail
fair enough,
What is the most conventional way to get answers to Hawlucha? One might say "just don't let it set up" but no, the seed lets it set up on so many things. Stuff like specs ash gren / mega pinsir exists, but none of them reliably KO them without sacrificing its teammate for prior damage. I personally use Mimikyu or even sash + counter alakazam in offensive teams but what are your ways to deal with 'mon?
bulky zapdos and unaware clefable are two of the best defensive counter measures. Offensive counter measures include mons that can ko with priority after previous chip damage, such as the two you listed, or mons that can live a hit and ohko, such as a bulky or full health koko, or a Z-Fly landorus.
can try its usual c&c section if u want to rely on that, but, u can also use newly invented stuff like toxic rh lando or defensive fly z lando if thats what u want.
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Zapdos is a fantastic counter most of the time. Just don't let it get worn down too much to the point that It won't be able to reliably roost back up and/or take on Hawlucha.
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Zapdos, Koko and toxic/z-fly defensive Lando all work.
Hippowdon also works because it takes a hit and whirlwinds lucha out, making it much easier to deal with.
Both Koko and Hippo need to be kept at a high amount of HP though.
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As everyone has said, Zapdos is definitely your best bet. Clef also works well, especially Unaware variants which completely shut down Lucha. Z-Fly Lando also works, I like that idea. Defensive Lando can also work but Roost is the standard these days so it's not reliable. Scarf Lando can actually work too as a check if you have Explosion, it can't switch in but on a free switch it will survive and kill with Explosion. Skarm and Hippo work but boosted Lucha 2HKOes skarm easily so those can really only be checks. Phasing in general is really nice - if you make it switch out Honestly it revolves around pressuring the opponent's team and well good play in general. I've heard unironic calls for bans on it because it really is a bitch to play around but there are decent answers. I can't really think of anything else tbh.
From the looks of that replay avalugg did absoutely 0 tho, not 1 single thing that affected the match, should it really be listed?
Does anyone have an Ev spread for a bulky Rest Talk M.Gyarados ?
Stone Edge tho...which apparently nobody's running. I'm guessing Roost/Drain Punch is that valuable?
Yeah. Roost is really good to set up on things like Landorus. Stone Edge isn't that common
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Roost is the standard to set up on many threats, most notably defensive Landorus-Therian and Celesteela. I have not seen Drain Punch Lucha in a very long time ngl.