Mega Kangaskhan will still be banned because despite the nerfs, Seismic Toss can still 2HKO anything under 401HP/anything 370HP and under holding lefties.
The problem which is what made Darkrai so deadly was that Dark Void was a somewhat inferior Spore, but not it's a vastly inferior Spore. Even if that's the case for those others, what about Deo-D?
Ok, but so does Spore and Sleep Powder. The difference between that and OHKO moves is that OHKO moves COMPLETELY remove something from the game whereas sleep isn't broken at all, especially Dark Void which doesn't have any other effects that differentiate it enough from other sleep moves besides the Bad Dreams ability that takes away 12% of your health per turn when you're asleep, something that any sleep move used by Darkrai would cause anyways. If anything, Darkrai's better off just using Z-Hypnosis since it grants it +1 speed.
I wasn't advocating for OHKO moves, I was advocating for a Darkrai retest due to the nerf.
Oh, my bad I was confused.
not the great typing, nearly perfect coverage, amazing stats, decent bulk, and access to nasty plot?
Within the next week or so I would guess. But if you think it's going to be an improvement from the metagame discussion thread I'd lower your expectations.
Extremely unlikely. Also SQSA isn't a ban discussion venue so that's the end of that.
Badly worded but my point is that despite the nerfed accuracy, it still does what it's always done so it's no reason for a retest.
If the Mega in question has better bulk, yes. For example, Mega Venusaur has FAR better bulk than regular Venusaur (even not accounting for Thick Fat), so it handles neutral hits better.
Mega venusaur with hp fire would be a decent check here. Celesteela or skarmory also would be good
Calm Mind Tapu Lele with Psyshock, Moonblast, Focus Blast would be really hard to deal with for most walls
Not as relevant anymore but Talonflame hard stops any variants of Pheromosa, Araquanid can tank mostly anything and OHKO with Liquidation. There's quite a few options to deal with it.
Offensive counters to Pheromosa? lol there aren't many. But against the scarf set and under psychic terrain, intimidaters like Gyarados and Landorus-T or ghost types like Mimikyu, Alolan-Marowak are surely gonna help. Then there's Buzzwole.
Beast Boost only affects base stats. With your Kartana example, it could SD, get a KO, and get +1 speed from beast boost if properly EV'd. Likewise, choiced items also do not affect beast boost. This is why Naughty Scarf Pheromosa (+Atk, -SpD) gets an attack boost after a KO, even though with a scarf it technically has 411 Attack and 601 Speed.
