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- Thread starter Jordy
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generally i just go 252 hp 252 spd min speed -speed +spd for slower uturns
sometimes ppl go for various physdef calcs but you still will have a decent defensive profile vs garchomp or zeraora even w just hp invest
as in tips!
no as in how to better use melm , nidoking etc
Nidoking for example, greatly appreciates some kind of pivot, to allow it multiple opportunities to come in.
Frankly nothing much in the metagame really takes much of it's attacks minus Blissey, Gastrodon and Slowking (without tbolt).
EP+Ice Beam+Tbolt/Flamethrower+Filler is usually what you'll want to run on it, with the filler filling up problems your team currently struggles to break.
Melmetal on the other hand is a slower pokemon that instead relies on it's large bulk to take hits and dish heavy damage back.
Main sets are Lefties and AV right now, Lefties has the particularity of being able to be super annoying with protect+toxic, usually paired with DIB and TPunch. AV on the other hand is a very efficient special tank, being a great check to Tapu Lele, Dragapult, and basically any special attacker.
Slow attackers in general need to capitalize on the fact that they're slow, either by being strong enough to break through common defensive walls (Think Crawdaunt and the aforementioned Nidoking), while being pretty frail. Bulkier threats use their bulk and strong offensive stats to OHKO fast sweepers/breakers, think Melmetal, Dragonite, TTar, Volcanion.
Obviously they have some overlap, but generally try thinking about what role you're currently looking on your team, either you're trying to fill defensive holes in your team with a bulkier slow attacker, or try to simply build around a slow offensive nuke.
Hope this helps :)
ty btw would something like this set be worth running on melm https://pokepast.es/149cec23082f7fa9
Substitute should only really be ran on sub Acid armor sets (which aren't particularly that good imo), I'd def recommend protect over it, or a 4th coverage option.
Ice Punch has somewhat less usage than a lot of it's other coverage options. This is mainly due to it not really hitting that much that Double Iron Bash doesn't heavily chunk already. The only real notable exception is Zapdos, which heavily threatens melmetal anyway with heat wave and a potential Static proc.
Your current Melmetal set is hard walled by Heatran, a very common pokemon, I'd recommend running either Superpower or Earthquake over Ice Punch or Substitute.
Double Iron Bash 99.993% |
| Thunder Punch 58.162% |
| Earthquake 48.602% |
| Superpower 48.191% |
| Protect 41.762% |
| Toxic 40.808% |
| Ice Punch 31.880% |
| Thunder Wave 9.631% |
| Body Press 4.668% |
| Other 16.304%
| Thunder Punch 58.162% |
| Earthquake 48.602% |
| Superpower 48.191% |
| Protect 41.762% |
| Toxic 40.808% |
| Ice Punch 31.880% |
| Thunder Wave 9.631% |
| Body Press 4.668% |
| Other 16.304%
So physical kingdra either
Kingdra@life orb
4hp 252 atk 252 spe
Adamant
-liquidate
-dragon dance
-outrage
-iron head
Kungdra@choice band
4hp 252 atk 252 spe
Adamant
-liquidate
-iron head
- flip turn
-outrage
Viable on rain teams? Namely the latter as a way of having a powerful flip turn, while hitting the usual kingdra counters hard.
Kingdra@life orb
4hp 252 atk 252 spe
Adamant
-liquidate
-dragon dance
-outrage
-iron head
Kungdra@choice band
4hp 252 atk 252 spe
Adamant
-liquidate
-iron head
- flip turn
-outrage
Viable on rain teams? Namely the latter as a way of having a powerful flip turn, while hitting the usual kingdra counters hard.
I’d say probably not as Slowbro/king, Toxapex, and the Grasses can still pivot in easily enough. It’s really only a lure to Blissey at this point, which is far less common than it once was.
And matchups outside of that, it’s worse off and less strong across the board. I’d just run special with Flip Turn as filler at that point
man what even is that formatting
also what ability (i suppose swift swim but)
Depends on your team needs. It is most commonly used as a bulky pivot , and spdef lando is the most common nowadays, alongside mixed Def sets. Some teams however can go phys Def. And the rarer offensive sets usually go max speed to creep volcanion and nidoking among other things.
Why aren't a lot of people playing Pokemon anymore? The site feels so dead.
People have mostly lost interest in competitive Sword and Shield. I expect there’ll be a huge spike of activity once Scarlet and Violet release.
You should probably be asking on the showdown subforum: https://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/pokémon-showdown.209/
oh im sorry that was rude
https://www.smogon.com/dex/ss/pokemon/landorus-therian/ou/ the defensive set here is very common, spdef is also very common, scarfs are also common