Metagame SM LC

[Acehunter1]

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Why play SM LC?

- It's balanced and diverse: The meta has a wide range of viable threats and team archetypes, and each individual Pokemon tends to have many viable sets to choose from. It is also the only generation with Z moves, which open many additional possibilities on many Pokemon.
- It's accessible: The mechanics of the game and some main elements of the meta have stayed relatively similar since Generation 6. Hence SM LC is relatively easy to pick up for a player with current generation experience, once he or she gets used to the presence of Z-moves and Hidden Power.
- It's relatively stable: Despite Sticky Web and Vulpix-Alola being banned after it became an oldgen, the meta has been very stable since the end of Gen 7. A diverse set of builds have consistently been viable over the years, giving players a lot of solid options to choose from.

Banlist

Pokemon:
Moves: Dragon Rage, Sonic Boom, Swagger, Baton Pass, Sticky Web
Abilities: Moody
Items: Eevium-Z
Clauses: Species, Sleep, OHKO, Evasion

Sample Teams


Standard Bulky Offense - by Ninjadog


Scarf Pawniard + NP Vull - by Starmaster


GastBra Hyper-Offense - by Acehunter1


Screech Diglett Fightspam - by Luthier


Scarf Mienfoo Offense - by Toadow


Icium-Z Staryu - by Unknown


FerroSpritz + Scarf Mudbray - by Unknown


Z-Fire Ponyta - by Voltix (winner of SM LC Cup II)

Big thanks to Corporal Levi, Coconut, LilyAC, ninjadog, and Star for making this thread possible!

 

[Acehunter1]

Viability rankings

S
Vullaby

A+
Abra
Diglett
Foongus
Mienfoo
Onix
Pawniard
Staryu

A
Ferroseed
Gastly
Mareanie
Timburr

A-
Magnemite
Mudbray
Ponyta
Snivy
Spritzee

B+
Carvanha
Chinchou
Magby
Munchlax
Rufflet
Shellder


B
Archen
Clamperl
Corphish
Doduo
Frillish
Grimer-Alola
Omanyte
Scraggy
Snubbull
Torchic
Zigzagoon

B-
Chespin
Croagunk
Dwebble
Elekid
Meowth
Taillow
Tirtouga
Wynaut

C+
Amaura
Bunnelby
Cottonee
Honedge
Larvesta
Pikipek
Pumpkaboo-Super
Riolu
Salandit
Slowpoke
Stunky

C
Budew
Drilbur
Koffing
Lileep
Pancham
Pumpkaboo-Small
Sandshrew-Alola
Venipede

C-
Anorith
Axew
Cranidos
Deerling
Hippopotas
Natu
Sandile
Snover
Trubbish


Speed tiers
(credits to Flou and grape tylenol )

Speed tiers

Speed	Sprite	Pokemon	Base	Nature	IVs	EVs	±
34		Onix	70	Positive	31	196	+2
32		Vullaby	60	Positive	31	196	+2
32		Carvanha	65	Neutral	31	236	+2
32		Dwebble	55	Positive	31	236	+2
30		Vullaby	60	Neutral	31	196	+2
30		Diglett	95	Positive	31	236	+1
30		Dwebble	55	Neutral	31	236	+2
28		Vullaby	60	Neutral	31	116	+2
28		Ponyta	90	Positive	31	196	+1
28		Shellder	40	Positive	31	196	+2
28		Torchic	45	Neutral	31	236	+2
28		Sandshrew-Alola	40	Positive	31	196	+2
28		Venipede	57	Neutral	31	148	+2
27		Gastly	80	Positive	31	196	+1
27		Doduo	75	Positive	31	236	+1
27		Salandit	77	Positive	31	220	+1
26		Shellder	40	Neutral	31	196	+2
26		Clamperl	32	Positive	31	184	+2
26		Omanyte	35	Neutral	31	236	+2
26		Sandshrew-Alola	40	Neutral	31	196	+2
25		Mienfoo	65	Positive	31	236	+1
25		Snivy	63	Positive	31	252	+1
25		Chinchou	67	Positive	31	224	+1
25		Pikipek	65	Positive	31	236	+1
25		Drilbur	68	Positive	31	212	+1
25		Sandile	65	Positive	31	236	+1
24		Vullaby	60	Positive	31	196	+1
24		Pawniard	60	Positive	31	196	+1
24		Carvanha	65	Neutral	31	236	+1
24		Rufflet	60	Positive	31	196	+1
24		Omanyte	35	Neutral	31	156	+2
24		Tirtouga	22	Positive	31	180	+2
24		Bunnelby	57	Positive	31	220	+1
24		Pikipek	65	Neutral	31	236	+1
24		Drilbur	68	Neutral	31	212	+1
24		Axew	57	Positive	31	220	+1
24		Cranidos	58	Positive	31	212	+1
24		Sandile	65	Neutral	31	236	+1
22		Vullaby	60	Neutral	31	196	+1
22		Magnemite	45	Positive	31	240	+1
22		Mudbray	45	Positive	31	236	+1
22		Scraggy	48	Positive	31	212	+1
22		Tirtouga	22	Neutral	31	180	+2
22		Amaura	46	Positive	31	228	+1
22		Bunnelby	57	Neutral	31	220	+1
22		Axew	57	Neutral	31	220	+1
22		Cranidos	58	Neutral	31	212	+1
21		Magnemite	45	Neutral	31	240	+1
21		Mudbray	45	Neutral	31	236	+1
21		Corphish	35	Positive	31	236	+1
21		Frillish	40	Positive	31	196	+1
21		Scraggy	48	Neutral	31	212	+1
21		Torchic	45	Neutral	31	236	+1
21		Amaura	46	Neutral	31	228	+1
21		Pumpkaboo-Small	56	Neutral	31	148	+1
21		Sandshrew-Alola	40	Positive	31	196	+1
21		Venipede	57	Neutral	31	148	+1
21		Snover	40	Positive	31	200	+1
20		Diglett	95	Positive	31	236	0
20		Elekid	95	Positive	31	236	0
19		Abra	90	Positive	31	196	0
19		Staryu	85	Positive	31	236	0
19		Ponyta	90	Positive	31	196	0
19		Magby	83	Positive	31	252	0
19		Corphish	35	Neutral	31	236	+1
19		Meowth	90	Positive	31	196	0
19		Taillow	85	Positive	31	236	0
18		Gastly	80	Positive	31	200	0
18		Doduo	75	Positive	31	236	0
18		Salandit	77	Positive	31	220	0
18		Stunky	74	Positive	31	244	0
18		Anorith	75	Positive	31	236	0
18		Deerling	75	Positive	31	236	0
17		Mienfoo	65	Positive	31	236	0
17		Onix	70	Positive	31	196	0
17		Snivy	63	Positive	31	252	0
17		Archen	70	Positive	31	196	0
17		Cottonee	66	Positive	31	232	0
17		Pikipek	65	Positive	31	236	0
17		Drilbur	68	Positive	31	212	0
17		Natu	70	Positive	31	196	0
17		Trubbish	65	Positive	31	236	0
16		Vullaby	60	Positive	31	196	0
16		Pawniard	60	Positive	31	196	0
16		Carvanha	65	Neutral	31	236	0
16		Chinchou	67	Neutral	31	220	0
16		Dwebble	55	Positive	31	236	0
16		Bunnelby	57	Positive	31	220	0
16		Axew	57	Positive	31	220	0
16		Cranidos	58	Positive	31	212	0
15		Vullaby	60	Neutral	31	196	0
15		Pawniard	60	Neutral	31	196	0
15		Magnemite	45	Positive	31	236	0
15		Scraggy	48	Positive	31	212	0
15		Dwebble	55	Neutral	31	236	0
15		Bunnelby	57	Neutral	31	220	0
15		Axew	57	Neutral	31	220	0
14		Vullaby	60	Neutral	31	116	0
14		Magnemite	45	Neutral	31	236	0
14		Chinchou	67	Neutral	31	60	0
14		Shellder	40	Positive	31	196	0
14		Corphish	35	Positive	31	236	0
14		Scraggy	48	Neutral	31	212	0
14		Torchic	45	Neutral	31	236	0
14		Stunky	74	Neutral	31	4	0
14		Pumpkaboo-Small	56	Neutral	31	148	0
14		Sandshrew-Alola	40	Positive	31	196	0
14		Venipede	57	Neutral	31	148	0
14		Natu	70	Neutral	31	36	0
13		Mienfoo	65	Neutral	31	0	0
13		Mudbray	45	Neutral	31	156	0
13		Rufflet	60	Neutral	31	36	0
13		Shellder	40	Neutral	31	196	0
13		Clamperl	32	Positive	31	184	0
13		Omanyte	35	Neutral	31	236	0
13		Zigzagoon	60	Neutral	31	36	0
13		Larvesta	60	Neutral	31	36	0
13		Riolu	60	Neutral	31	36	0
13		Sandshrew-Alola	40	Neutral	31	196	0
12		Omanyte	35	Neutral	31	156	0
12		Croagunk	50	Neutral	31	36	0
12		Tirtouga	22	Positive	31	180	0
12		Budew	55	Neutral	31	0	0
11		Mareanie	45	Neutral	31	0	0
11		Tirtouga	22	Neutral	31	180	0
11		Pumpkaboo-Super	41	Neutral	31	28	0
11		Pancham	43	Neutral	31	12	0
10		Timburr	35	Neutral	31	0	0
10		Frillish	40	Neutral	31	0	0
10		Snubbull	30	Neutral	31	36	0
10		Chespin	38	Neutral	31	0	0
10		Honedge	28	Neutral	31	52	0
10		Koffing	35	Neutral	31	0	0
10		Hippopotas	32	Neutral	31	20	0
9		Spritzee	23	Neutral	31	12	0
9		Grimer-Alola	25	Neutral	31	0	0
9		Tirtouga	22	Neutral	31	20	0
9		Wynaut	23	Neutral	31	12	0
9		Pumpkaboo-Super	41	Negative	31	28	0
9		Lileep	23	Neutral	31	12	0
9		Snover	40	Negative	31	0	0
8		Foongus	15	Neutral	31	0	0
8		Slowpoke	15	Neutral	31	0	0
7		Ferroseed	10	Neutral	31	0	0
7		Munchlax	5	Neutral	31	0	0

 

[megatyler30]

Acehunter1 Who is on SM LC council? Also, what was the reasoning that lead to the Sticky Webs ban? Was that a council vote?

 

[Acehunter1]

Acehunter1 Who is on SM LC council? Also, what was the reasoning that lead to the Sticky Webs ban? Was that a council vote?

Right now, SM LC doesn't really have an official council. There is a Discord server that was and can be used to bring up potential tiering discussions, found in Levi's post here. It is no longer very active, however, and I'd say the most "active" members would be those mentioned in the OP and myself.
As for Sticky Web, it was indeed banned by council vote, which can be found here. I might not be the best to explain the reasoning, since I was anti-ban myself. However, from my understanding, a majority of the council considered webs to be a matchup fish that was unhealthy for the metagame. Running enough counterplay for webs meant being worse against other matchups, and if you don't and face webs, you end up having very one-sided, close to auto-lose matchups. Someone can correct me if my summary isn't exactly accurate.

 

[Acehunter1]

So it's been a while. If you haven't noticed, the SM Mienfoo analysis on Smogon was updated back in May to better reflect the current metagame.
However, today, I'm glad to announce that the Smogon SM LC analysis for Vullaby, the most influential Pokemon of the tier, has been fully revamped! After almost 4 months in the works, you can finally find a detailed, up to date analysis on the complex Pokemon that is Vullaby here: https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/vullaby/

Big thanks to Nineage for having written a good chunk of the revamp back in 2019, giving us a great template to start from. Also big thanks to DC, LilyAC, and Corporal Levi, without whom this update wouldn't have been possible!

 

[Acehunter1]

SM LC Cup II Usage Stats

Round 1

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |  103 |  80.47% |  52.43% |
| 2    | Mienfoo            |   67 |  52.34% |  53.73% |
| 3    | Diglett            |   62 |  48.44% |  56.45% |
| 4    | Onix               |   38 |  29.69% |  50.00% |
| 4    | Foongus            |   38 |  29.69% |  36.84% |
| 6    | Abra               |   36 |  28.12% |  50.00% |
| 6    | Pawniard           |   36 |  28.12% |  44.44% |
| 8    | Staryu             |   35 |  27.34% |  42.86% |
| 9    | Timburr            |   31 |  24.22% |  54.84% |
| 10   | Ferroseed          |   30 |  23.44% |  73.33% |
| 10   | Spritzee           |   30 |  23.44% |  63.33% |
| 12   | Gastly             |   28 |  21.88% |  67.86% |
| 13   | Mareanie           |   27 |  21.09% |  51.85% |
| 14   | Mudbray            |   25 |  19.53% |  60.00% |
| 15   | Ponyta             |   17 |  13.28% |  47.06% |
| 16   | Magnemite          |   15 |  11.72% |  20.00% |
| 17   | Snivy              |   14 |  10.94% |  21.43% |
| 18   | Grimer-Alola       |    7 |   5.47% |  71.43% |
| 18   | Chinchou           |    7 |   5.47% |  57.14% |
| 18   | Shellder           |    7 |   5.47% |  57.14% |
| 18   | Doduo              |    7 |   5.47% |  42.86% |
| 18   | Tirtouga           |    7 |   5.47% |  42.86% |
| 18   | Vulpix-Alola       |    7 |   5.47% |  42.86% |
| 24   | Zigzagoon          |    6 |   4.69% |  66.67% |
| 24   | Corphish           |    6 |   4.69% |  33.33% |
| 26   | Elekid             |    5 |   3.91% |  40.00% |
| 26   | Scraggy            |    5 |   3.91% |  40.00% |
| 26   | Croagunk           |    5 |   3.91% |  20.00% |
| 26   | Carvanha           |    5 |   3.91% |  20.00% |
| 30   | Magby              |    4 |   3.12% |  75.00% |
| 31   | Omanyte            |    3 |   2.34% |  66.67% |
| 31   | Clamperl           |    3 |   2.34% |  66.67% |
| 31   | Snubbull           |    3 |   2.34% |  66.67% |
| 31   | Wynaut             |    3 |   2.34% |  33.33% |
| 31   | Rufflet            |    3 |   2.34% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Honedge            |    2 |   1.56% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Pikipek            |    2 |   1.56% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Taillow            |    2 |   1.56% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Cottonee           |    2 |   1.56% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Wimpod             |    2 |   1.56% |  50.00% |
| 36   | Phanpy             |    2 |   1.56% |  50.00% |
| 36   | Kabuto             |    2 |   1.56% |  50.00% |
| 36   | Dwebble            |    2 |   1.56% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Munchlax           |    2 |   1.56% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Larvesta           |    2 |   1.56% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Aron               |    2 |   1.56% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Bagon              |    2 |   1.56% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Azurill            |    2 |   1.56% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Bulbasaur          |    2 |   1.56% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Chespin            |    1 |   0.78% | 100.00% |
| 50   | Sandile            |    1 |   0.78% | 100.00% |
| -    | Pumpkaboo-*        |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Pumpkaboo-Super    |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Krabby             |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Torchic            |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Pancham            |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Cranidos           |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Hippopotas         |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Drilbur            |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Frillish           |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Natu               |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Cubone             |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Machop             |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Bunnelby           |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Axew               |    1 |   0.78% |   0.00% |

Round 2

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |   98 |  83.05% |  51.02% |
| 2    | Diglett            |   61 |  51.69% |  47.54% |
| 3    | Mienfoo            |   56 |  47.46% |  37.50% |
| 4    | Timburr            |   44 |  37.29% |  61.36% |
| 5    | Pawniard           |   40 |  33.90% |  52.50% |
| 6    | Ferroseed          |   39 |  33.05% |  58.97% |
| 7    | Spritzee           |   37 |  31.36% |  62.16% |
| 8    | Staryu             |   33 |  27.97% |  57.58% |
| 9    | Foongus            |   32 |  27.12% |  40.62% |
| 9    | Onix               |   32 |  27.12% |  31.25% |
| 11   | Abra               |   27 |  22.88% |  44.44% |
| 12   | Mareanie           |   24 |  20.34% |  54.17% |
| 13   | Mudbray            |   21 |  17.80% |  66.67% |
| 13   | Gastly             |   21 |  17.80% |  47.62% |
| 15   | Ponyta             |   12 |  10.17% |  58.33% |
| 15   | Snivy              |   12 |  10.17% |  41.67% |
| 15   | Magnemite          |   12 |  10.17% |  41.67% |
| 18   | Zigzagoon          |    8 |   6.78% |  62.50% |
| 19   | Vulpix-Alola       |    7 |   5.93% |  71.43% |
| 20   | Chinchou           |    6 |   5.08% |  33.33% |
| 21   | Magby              |    5 |   4.24% |  40.00% |
| 21   | Grimer-Alola       |    5 |   4.24% |  40.00% |
| 21   | Frillish           |    5 |   4.24% |  40.00% |
| 21   | Shellder           |    5 |   4.24% |  20.00% |
| 25   | Scraggy            |    4 |   3.39% |  75.00% |
| 25   | Rufflet            |    4 |   3.39% |  50.00% |
| 25   | Snubbull           |    4 |   3.39% |  50.00% |
| 25   | Cottonee           |    4 |   3.39% |  25.00% |
| 25   | Clamperl           |    4 |   3.39% |   0.00% |
| 30   | Tirtouga           |    3 |   2.54% | 100.00% |
| 30   | Doduo              |    3 |   2.54% | 100.00% |
| 30   | Corphish           |    3 |   2.54% | 100.00% |
| 30   | Archen             |    3 |   2.54% |  66.67% |
| 30   | Wynaut             |    3 |   2.54% |  33.33% |
| 30   | Croagunk           |    3 |   2.54% |  33.33% |
| 30   | Elekid             |    3 |   2.54% |  33.33% |
| 37   | Honedge            |    2 |   1.69% | 100.00% |
| 37   | Pikipek            |    2 |   1.69% | 100.00% |
| 37   | Sandshrew          |    2 |   1.69% | 100.00% |
| 37   | Bunnelby           |    2 |   1.69% |  50.00% |
| 37   | Omanyte            |    2 |   1.69% |   0.00% |
| 37   | Wimpod             |    2 |   1.69% |   0.00% |
| 43   | Kabuto             |    1 |   0.85% | 100.00% |
| 43   | Pineco             |    1 |   0.85% | 100.00% |
| 43   | Cranidos           |    1 |   0.85% | 100.00% |
| 43   | Taillow            |    1 |   0.85% | 100.00% |
| 43   | Slowpoke           |    1 |   0.85% |   0.00% |
| 43   | Sandile            |    1 |   0.85% |   0.00% |
| 43   | Pancham            |    1 |   0.85% |   0.00% |
| 43   | Natu               |    1 |   0.85% |   0.00% |
| 43   | Munchlax           |    1 |   0.85% |   0.00% |
| 43   | Chespin            |    1 |   0.85% |   0.00% |
| 43   | Larvesta           |    1 |   0.85% |   0.00% |
| 43   | Bulbasaur          |    1 |   0.85% |   0.00% |
| 43   | Drilbur            |    1 |   0.85% |   0.00% |

Round 3

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |   43 |  76.79% |  41.86% |
| 2    | Diglett            |   24 |  42.86% |  37.50% |
| 3    | Mienfoo            |   23 |  41.07% |  39.13% |
| 4    | Pawniard           |   20 |  35.71% |  45.00% |
| 5    | Ferroseed          |   19 |  33.93% |  47.37% |
| 6    | Timburr            |   18 |  32.14% |  66.67% |
| 7    | Staryu             |   16 |  28.57% |  43.75% |
| 8    | Spritzee           |   15 |  26.79% |  60.00% |
| 9    | Mudbray            |   13 |  23.21% |  69.23% |
| 9    | Foongus            |   13 |  23.21% |  53.85% |
| 9    | Abra               |   13 |  23.21% |  46.15% |
| 12   | Mareanie           |   12 |  21.43% |  33.33% |
| 13   | Onix               |   11 |  19.64% |  54.55% |
| 14   | Gastly             |    6 |  10.71% |  66.67% |
| 14   | Magnemite          |    6 |  10.71% |  50.00% |
| 14   | Corphish           |    6 |  10.71% |  50.00% |
| 14   | Snivy              |    6 |  10.71% |  50.00% |
| 18   | Ponyta             |    5 |   8.93% |  60.00% |
| 18   | Zigzagoon          |    5 |   8.93% |  60.00% |
| 20   | Vulpix-Alola       |    4 |   7.14% |  75.00% |
| 20   | Grimer-Alola       |    4 |   7.14% |  75.00% |
| 20   | Shellder           |    4 |   7.14% |  50.00% |
| 20   | Taillow            |    4 |   7.14% |  50.00% |
| 24   | Doduo              |    3 |   5.36% |  66.67% |
| 24   | Scraggy            |    3 |   5.36% |  66.67% |
| 24   | Frillish           |    3 |   5.36% |  66.67% |
| 27   | Wynaut             |    2 |   3.57% | 100.00% |
| 27   | Chinchou           |    2 |   3.57% | 100.00% |
| 27   | Clamperl           |    2 |   3.57% |  50.00% |
| 27   | Croagunk           |    2 |   3.57% |  50.00% |
| 27   | Pineco             |    2 |   3.57% |  50.00% |
| 27   | Cranidos           |    2 |   3.57% |  50.00% |
| 27   | Snubbull           |    2 |   3.57% |  50.00% |
| 27   | Drilbur            |    2 |   3.57% |  50.00% |
| 27   | Elekid             |    2 |   3.57% |   0.00% |
| 27   | Honedge            |    2 |   3.57% |   0.00% |
| 27   | Pikipek            |    2 |   3.57% |   0.00% |
| 38   | Kabuto             |    1 |   1.79% | 100.00% |
| 38   | Magby              |    1 |   1.79% | 100.00% |
| 38   | Omanyte            |    1 |   1.79% | 100.00% |
| 38   | Meowth             |    1 |   1.79% | 100.00% |
| 38   | Budew              |    1 |   1.79% | 100.00% |
| 38   | Hippopotas         |    1 |   1.79% | 100.00% |
| 38   | Larvesta           |    1 |   1.79% | 100.00% |
| 38   | Snover             |    1 |   1.79% | 100.00% |
| 38   | Sandshrew-Alola    |    1 |   1.79% | 100.00% |
| 38   | Rufflet            |    1 |   1.79% |   0.00% |
| 38   | Axew               |    1 |   1.79% |   0.00% |
| 38   | Stunky             |    1 |   1.79% |   0.00% |
| 38   | Fletchling         |    1 |   1.79% |   0.00% |
| 38   | Tirtouga           |    1 |   1.79% |   0.00% |
| 38   | Munchlax           |    1 |   1.79% |   0.00% |

Round 4

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |   32 |  84.21% |  50.00% |
| 2    | Ferroseed          |   22 |  57.89% |  54.55% |
| 3    | Timburr            |   15 |  39.47% |  53.33% |
| 4    | Mienfoo            |   14 |  36.84% |  57.14% |
| 4    | Onix               |   14 |  36.84% |  50.00% |
| 6    | Pawniard           |   12 |  31.58% |  41.67% |
| 6    | Staryu             |   12 |  31.58% |  33.33% |
| 8    | Spritzee           |   11 |  28.95% |  18.18% |
| 9    | Mareanie           |   10 |  26.32% |  60.00% |
| 9    | Diglett            |   10 |  26.32% |  40.00% |
| 11   | Mudbray            |    9 |  23.68% |  66.67% |
| 11   | Foongus            |    9 |  23.68% |  55.56% |
| 13   | Gastly             |    7 |  18.42% |  71.43% |
| 14   | Abra               |    6 |  15.79% |  33.33% |
| 15   | Doduo              |    4 |  10.53% |  50.00% |
| 15   | Snivy              |    4 |  10.53% |  50.00% |
| 15   | Rufflet            |    4 |  10.53% |  25.00% |
| 18   | Carvanha           |    3 |   7.89% |  66.67% |
| 18   | Drilbur            |    3 |   7.89% |  66.67% |
| 18   | Magnemite          |    3 |   7.89% |  66.67% |
| 21   | Snubbull           |    2 |   5.26% | 100.00% |
| 21   | Tirtouga           |    2 |   5.26% | 100.00% |
| 21   | Scraggy            |    2 |   5.26% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Frillish           |    2 |   5.26% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Grimer-Alola       |    2 |   5.26% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Sandile            |    1 |   2.63% | 100.00% |
| 26   | Pikipek            |    1 |   2.63% | 100.00% |
| 26   | Clamperl           |    1 |   2.63% | 100.00% |
| 26   | Croagunk           |    1 |   2.63% | 100.00% |
| 26   | Slowpoke           |    1 |   2.63% | 100.00% |
| 26   | Kabuto             |    1 |   2.63% | 100.00% |
| 26   | Wynaut             |    1 |   2.63% | 100.00% |
| 26   | Elekid             |    1 |   2.63% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Ponyta             |    1 |   2.63% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Dwebble            |    1 |   2.63% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Vulpix-Alola       |    1 |   2.63% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Chinchou           |    1 |   2.63% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Corphish           |    1 |   2.63% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Morelull           |    1 |   2.63% |   0.00% |

Round 5

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |   17 |  85.00% |  41.18% |
| 2    | Ferroseed          |    9 |  45.00% |  44.44% |
| 2    | Mienfoo            |    9 |  45.00% |  44.44% |
| 4    | Pawniard           |    8 |  40.00% |  75.00% |
| 4    | Diglett            |    8 |  40.00% |  50.00% |
| 4    | Timburr            |    8 |  40.00% |  37.50% |
| 7    | Staryu             |    7 |  35.00% |  57.14% |
| 8    | Abra               |    6 |  30.00% |  83.33% |
| 8    | Mareanie           |    6 |  30.00% |  50.00% |
| 8    | Onix               |    6 |  30.00% |  33.33% |
| 11   | Foongus            |    5 |  25.00% |  20.00% |
| 12   | Spritzee           |    3 |  15.00% |  66.67% |
| 12   | Snubbull           |    3 |  15.00% |  66.67% |
| 12   | Snivy              |    3 |  15.00% |  66.67% |
| 12   | Mudbray            |    3 |  15.00% |  33.33% |
| 12   | Magnemite          |    3 |  15.00% |  33.33% |
| 17   | Gastly             |    2 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Doduo              |    2 |  10.00% |  50.00% |
| 17   | Ponyta             |    2 |  10.00% |  50.00% |
| 20   | Kabuto             |    1 |   5.00% | 100.00% |
| 20   | Wynaut             |    1 |   5.00% | 100.00% |
| 20   | Vulpix-Alola       |    1 |   5.00% | 100.00% |
| 20   | Scraggy            |    1 |   5.00% | 100.00% |
| 20   | Magby              |    1 |   5.00% | 100.00% |
| 20   | Corphish           |    1 |   5.00% |   0.00% |
| 20   | Salandit           |    1 |   5.00% |   0.00% |
| 20   | Frillish           |    1 |   5.00% |   0.00% |
| 20   | Drilbur            |    1 |   5.00% |   0.00% |
| 20   | Chespin            |    1 |   5.00% |   0.00% |

Semifinals

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |    6 |  60.00% |  83.33% |
| 2    | Timburr            |    5 |  50.00% |  60.00% |
| 3    | Ferroseed          |    4 |  40.00% |  50.00% |
| 3    | Onix               |    4 |  40.00% |  50.00% |
| 3    | Mienfoo            |    4 |  40.00% |  25.00% |
| 6    | Diglett            |    3 |  30.00% |  66.67% |
| 6    | Mareanie           |    3 |  30.00% |  66.67% |
| 6    | Staryu             |    3 |  30.00% |  33.33% |
| 6    | Doduo              |    3 |  30.00% |  33.33% |
| 6    | Gastly             |    3 |  30.00% |  33.33% |
| 6    | Mudbray            |    3 |  30.00% |  33.33% |
| 6    | Pawniard           |    3 |  30.00% |   0.00% |
| 13   | Spritzee           |    2 |  20.00% | 100.00% |
| 13   | Abra               |    2 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 13   | Foongus            |    2 |  20.00% |   0.00% |
| 16   | Vulpix-Alola       |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 16   | Scraggy            |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 16   | Magby              |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 16   | Dwebble            |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 16   | Elekid             |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 16   | Magnemite          |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 16   | Snubbull           |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 16   | Snivy              |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 16   | Kabuto             |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 16   | Wynaut             |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |

Finals

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |    4 | 100.00% |  50.00% |
| 2    | Diglett            |    3 |  75.00% |  33.33% |
| 3    | Ponyta             |    2 |  50.00% | 100.00% |
| 3    | Gastly             |    2 |  50.00% |  50.00% |
| 3    | Staryu             |    2 |  50.00% |  50.00% |
| 3    | Onix               |    2 |  50.00% |   0.00% |
| 7    | Spritzee           |    1 |  25.00% | 100.00% |
| 7    | Ferroseed          |    1 |  25.00% | 100.00% |
| 7    | Pawniard           |    1 |  25.00% | 100.00% |
| 7    | Mudbray            |    1 |  25.00% | 100.00% |
| 7    | Mienfoo            |    1 |  25.00% | 100.00% |
| 7    | Snivy              |    1 |  25.00% |   0.00% |
| 7    | Mareanie           |    1 |  25.00% |   0.00% |
| 7    | Doduo              |    1 |  25.00% |   0.00% |
| 7    | Pikipek            |    1 |  25.00% |   0.00% |

Cumulative

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |  303 |  81.02% |  50.17% |
| 2    | Mienfoo            |  174 |  46.52% |  45.98% |
| 3    | Diglett            |  171 |  45.72% |  49.12% |
| 4    | Ferroseed          |  124 |  33.16% |  58.87% |
| 5    | Timburr            |  121 |  32.35% |  57.85% |
| 6    | Pawniard           |  120 |  32.09% |  48.33% |
| 7    | Staryu             |  108 |  28.88% |  47.22% |
| 8    | Onix               |  107 |  28.61% |  42.99% |
| 9    | Spritzee           |   99 |  26.47% |  58.59% |
| 9    | Foongus            |   99 |  26.47% |  40.40% |
| 11   | Abra               |   90 |  24.06% |  48.89% |
| 12   | Mareanie           |   83 |  22.19% |  50.60% |
| 13   | Mudbray            |   75 |  20.05% |  62.67% |
| 14   | Gastly             |   69 |  18.45% |  60.87% |
| 15   | Snivy              |   41 |  10.96% |  36.59% |
| 16   | Magnemite          |   40 |  10.70% |  37.50% |
| 17   | Ponyta             |   39 |  10.43% |  53.85% |
| 18   | Doduo              |   23 |   6.15% |  52.17% |
| 19   | Vulpix-Alola       |   21 |   5.61% |  61.90% |
| 20   | Zigzagoon          |   19 |   5.08% |  63.16% |
| 21   | Grimer-Alola       |   18 |   4.81% |  55.56% |
| 22   | Corphish           |   17 |   4.55% |  47.06% |
| 23   | Scraggy            |   16 |   4.28% |  62.50% |
| 23   | Chinchou           |   16 |   4.28% |  50.00% |
| 23   | Shellder           |   16 |   4.28% |  43.75% |
| 26   | Snubbull           |   15 |   4.01% |  60.00% |
| 27   | Tirtouga           |   13 |   3.48% |  61.54% |
| 28   | Magby              |   12 |   3.21% |  66.67% |
| 28   | Frillish           |   12 |   3.21% |  41.67% |
| 28   | Elekid             |   12 |   3.21% |  33.33% |
| 28   | Rufflet            |   12 |   3.21% |  25.00% |
| 32   | Wynaut             |   11 |   2.94% |  54.55% |
| 32   | Croagunk           |   11 |   2.94% |  36.36% |
| 34   | Clamperl           |   10 |   2.67% |  40.00% |
| 35   | Pikipek            |    8 |   2.14% |  62.50% |
| 35   | Carvanha           |    8 |   2.14% |  37.50% |
| 35   | Drilbur            |    8 |   2.14% |  37.50% |
| 38   | Taillow            |    7 |   1.87% |  71.43% |
| 38   | Kabuto             |    7 |   1.87% |  71.43% |
| 40   | Honedge            |    6 |   1.60% |  66.67% |
| 40   | Omanyte            |    6 |   1.60% |  50.00% |
| 40   | Cottonee           |    6 |   1.60% |  50.00% |
| 43   | Cranidos           |    4 |   1.07% |  50.00% |
| 43   | Wimpod             |    4 |   1.07% |  25.00% |
| 43   | Dwebble            |    4 |   1.07% |  25.00% |
| 43   | Larvesta           |    4 |   1.07% |  25.00% |
| 43   | Munchlax           |    4 |   1.07% |   0.00% |
| 48   | Sandile            |    3 |   0.80% |  66.67% |
| 48   | Archen             |    3 |   0.80% |  66.67% |
| 48   | Pineco             |    3 |   0.80% |  66.67% |
| 48   | Chespin            |    3 |   0.80% |  33.33% |
| 48   | Bunnelby           |    3 |   0.80% |  33.33% |
| 48   | Bulbasaur          |    3 |   0.80% |   0.00% |
| 54   | Sandshrew          |    2 |   0.53% | 100.00% |
| 54   | Phanpy             |    2 |   0.53% |  50.00% |
| 54   | Hippopotas         |    2 |   0.53% |  50.00% |
| 54   | Slowpoke           |    2 |   0.53% |  50.00% |
| 54   | Pancham            |    2 |   0.53% |   0.00% |
| 54   | Natu               |    2 |   0.53% |   0.00% |
| 54   | Axew               |    2 |   0.53% |   0.00% |
| 54   | Aron               |    2 |   0.53% |   0.00% |
| 54   | Bagon              |    2 |   0.53% |   0.00% |
| 54   | Azurill            |    2 |   0.53% |   0.00% |
| 64   | Meowth             |    1 |   0.27% | 100.00% |
| 64   | Budew              |    1 |   0.27% | 100.00% |
| 64   | Snover             |    1 |   0.27% | 100.00% |
| 64   | Sandshrew-Alola    |    1 |   0.27% | 100.00% |
| -    | Pumpkaboo-*        |    1 |   0.27% |   0.00% |
| 64   | Pumpkaboo-Super    |    1 |   0.27% |   0.00% |
| 64   | Krabby             |    1 |   0.27% |   0.00% |
| 64   | Torchic            |    1 |   0.27% |   0.00% |
| 64   | Cubone             |    1 |   0.27% |   0.00% |
| 64   | Machop             |    1 |   0.27% |   0.00% |
| 64   | Stunky             |    1 |   0.27% |   0.00% |
| 64   | Fletchling         |    1 |   0.27% |   0.00% |
| 64   | Morelull           |    1 |   0.27% |   0.00% |
| 64   | Salandit           |    1 |   0.27% |   0.00% |

 

[Acehunter1]

SM LC Cup II Highlight Matches

Here are some of my personal favorite cool matches from each round!

Round 1:
Kingler vs gali
Voltix vs giove97
Charis_Akins vs MuffinMelody
Toadow vs iss

Round 2:
Nineveh vs Luthier
Stecolomaxx vs Magician
reggg vs zben
MOHAMEDALL vs Voltix

Round 3:
Mikaav vs ninjadog
Medeia vs Sciroccoo
gali vs Flou

Round 4:
Surfy vs Charis_Akins
Stecolomaxx vs Scirocco
Leafium Z vs zben

Round 5:
HSOWA vs zben
Eeveeto vs Heysup

Semifinals:
Voltix vs Heysup

Finals:
Charis_Akins vs Voltix

 

[Acehunter1]

SM LC Cup III Usage Stats

Round 1

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |  103 |  90.35% |  50.49% |
| 2    | Diglett            |   54 |  47.37% |  50.00% |
| 3    | Pawniard           |   47 |  41.23% |  55.32% |
| 4    | Mienfoo            |   46 |  40.35% |  50.00% |
| 5    | Timburr            |   40 |  35.09% |  57.50% |
| 6    | Onix               |   35 |  30.70% |  51.43% |
| 6    | Foongus            |   35 |  30.70% |  45.71% |
| 8    | Spritzee           |   33 |  28.95% |  39.39% |
| 9    | Mareanie           |   30 |  26.32% |  60.00% |
| 9    | Staryu             |   30 |  26.32% |  46.67% |
| 11   | Abra               |   29 |  25.44% |  58.62% |
| 12   | Ferroseed          |   22 |  19.30% |  45.45% |
| 13   | Mudbray            |   16 |  14.04% |  50.00% |
| 14   | Ponyta             |   15 |  13.16% |  53.33% |
| 14   | Vulpix-Alola       |   15 |  13.16% |  40.00% |
| 16   | Snivy              |   13 |  11.40% |  53.85% |
| 17   | Gastly             |   11 |   9.65% |  54.55% |
| 17   | Magnemite          |   11 |   9.65% |  45.45% |
| 17   | Scraggy            |   11 |   9.65% |  45.45% |
| 20   | Magby              |    9 |   7.89% |  55.56% |
| 21   | Rufflet            |    7 |   6.14% |  42.86% |
| 22   | Doduo              |    6 |   5.26% |  66.67% |
| 23   | Snubbull           |    5 |   4.39% |  60.00% |
| 23   | Corphish           |    5 |   4.39% |  60.00% |
| 23   | Shellder           |    5 |   4.39% |  60.00% |
| 23   | Clamperl           |    5 |   4.39% |  20.00% |
| 27   | Dwebble            |    4 |   3.51% |  50.00% |
| 27   | Chinchou           |    4 |   3.51% |  25.00% |
| 27   | Grimer-Alola       |    4 |   3.51% |  25.00% |
| 30   | Omanyte            |    3 |   2.63% |  66.67% |
| 30   | Elekid             |    3 |   2.63% |  66.67% |
| 30   | Munchlax           |    3 |   2.63% |  33.33% |
| 30   | Zigzagoon          |    3 |   2.63% |  33.33% |
| 30   | Carvanha           |    3 |   2.63% |   0.00% |
| 35   | Meowth             |    2 |   1.75% | 100.00% |
| -    | Pumpkaboo-*        |    2 |   1.75% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Chespin            |    2 |   1.75% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Klink              |    2 |   1.75% |  50.00% |
| 35   | Tirtouga           |    2 |   1.75% |  50.00% |
| 35   | Pikipek            |    2 |   1.75% |   0.00% |
| 40   | Pumpkaboo-Small    |    1 |   0.88% | 100.00% |
| 40   | Pumpkaboo-Super    |    1 |   0.88% | 100.00% |
| 40   | Honedge            |    1 |   0.88% |   0.00% |
| 40   | Bidoof             |    1 |   0.88% |   0.00% |
| 40   | Frillish           |    1 |   0.88% |   0.00% |
| 40   | Croagunk           |    1 |   0.88% |   0.00% |
| 40   | Slowpoke           |    1 |   0.88% |   0.00% |
| 40   | Sandshrew-Alola    |    1 |   0.88% |   0.00% |
| 40   | Snover             |    1 |   0.88% |   0.00% |

Round 2

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |   43 |  86.00% |  53.49% |
| 2    | Diglett            |   28 |  56.00% |  57.14% |
| 3    | Mienfoo            |   23 |  46.00% |  52.17% |
| 4    | Pawniard           |   19 |  38.00% |  68.42% |
| 5    | Onix               |   16 |  32.00% |  50.00% |
| 6    | Staryu             |   14 |  28.00% |  64.29% |
| 6    | Timburr            |   14 |  28.00% |  57.14% |
| 6    | Spritzee           |   14 |  28.00% |  42.86% |
| 9    | Ferroseed          |   13 |  26.00% |  46.15% |
| 10   | Foongus            |   12 |  24.00% |  58.33% |
| 10   | Mareanie           |   12 |  24.00% |  50.00% |
| 12   | Gastly             |   11 |  22.00% |  45.45% |
| 13   | Mudbray            |    9 |  18.00% |  66.67% |
| 14   | Snivy              |    7 |  14.00% |  42.86% |
| 15   | Vulpix-Alola       |    6 |  12.00% |  33.33% |
| 15   | Magnemite          |    6 |  12.00% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Rufflet            |    5 |  10.00% |  60.00% |
| 17   | Abra               |    5 |  10.00% |  40.00% |
| 17   | Scraggy            |    5 |  10.00% |  20.00% |
| 17   | Magby              |    5 |  10.00% |  20.00% |
| 17   | Doduo              |    5 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 22   | Ponyta             |    3 |   6.00% | 100.00% |
| 22   | Grimer-Alola       |    3 |   6.00% |  66.67% |
| 22   | Clamperl           |    3 |   6.00% |  33.33% |
| 22   | Snubbull           |    3 |   6.00% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Elekid             |    2 |   4.00% | 100.00% |
| 26   | Wynaut             |    2 |   4.00% | 100.00% |
| 28   | Shellder           |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 28   | Torchic            |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 28   | Frillish           |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 28   | Shellos            |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 28   | Chinchou           |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 28   | Meowth             |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 28   | Cottonee           |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| -    | Pumpkaboo-*        |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 28   | Dwebble            |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 28   | Pumpkaboo-Super    |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 28   | Munchlax           |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 28   | Taillow            |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 28   | Kabuto             |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |

Round 3

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |   29 |  96.67% |  48.28% |
| 2    | Diglett            |   16 |  53.33% |  50.00% |
| 3    | Timburr            |   14 |  46.67% |  78.57% |
| 4    | Mienfoo            |   13 |  43.33% |  46.15% |
| 5    | Staryu             |   12 |  40.00% |  41.67% |
| 6    | Ferroseed          |   11 |  36.67% |  54.55% |
| 7    | Onix               |   10 |  33.33% |  70.00% |
| 7    | Spritzee           |   10 |  33.33% |  50.00% |
| 7    | Pawniard           |   10 |  33.33% |  40.00% |
| 10   | Foongus            |    9 |  30.00% |  66.67% |
| 11   | Mareanie           |    7 |  23.33% |  42.86% |
| 12   | Gastly             |    5 |  16.67% |  60.00% |
| 13   | Ponyta             |    4 |  13.33% |  50.00% |
| 13   | Mudbray            |    4 |  13.33% |   0.00% |
| 15   | Vulpix-Alola       |    3 |  10.00% |  33.33% |
| 15   | Abra               |    3 |  10.00% |  33.33% |
| 17   | Grimer-Alola       |    2 |   6.67% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Magnemite          |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 17   | Elekid             |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 17   | Scraggy            |    2 |   6.67% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Magby              |    2 |   6.67% |   0.00% |
| 22   | Snivy              |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 22   | Snubbull           |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 22   | Chinchou           |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 22   | Doduo              |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 22   | Clamperl           |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 22   | Torchic            |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 22   | Dwebble            |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 22   | Carvanha           |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 22   | Chespin            |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 22   | Rufflet            |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |

Round 4

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |   16 |  88.89% |  56.25% |
| 2    | Diglett            |   12 |  66.67% |  58.33% |
| 3    | Timburr            |    9 |  50.00% |  55.56% |
| 4    | Onix               |    8 |  44.44% |  62.50% |
| 5    | Foongus            |    7 |  38.89% |  57.14% |
| 5    | Mienfoo            |    7 |  38.89% |  42.86% |
| 7    | Pawniard           |    6 |  33.33% |  50.00% |
| 7    | Abra               |    6 |  33.33% |  50.00% |
| 9    | Mareanie           |    5 |  27.78% |  60.00% |
| 10   | Gastly             |    4 |  22.22% |  50.00% |
| 11   | Spritzee           |    3 |  16.67% |  33.33% |
| 11   | Ferroseed          |    3 |  16.67% |  33.33% |
| 11   | Staryu             |    3 |  16.67% |  33.33% |
| 14   | Shellder           |    2 |  11.11% | 100.00% |
| 14   | Ponyta             |    2 |  11.11% |  50.00% |
| 14   | Mudbray            |    2 |  11.11% |  50.00% |
| 17   | Snivy              |    1 |   5.56% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Vulpix-Alola       |    1 |   5.56% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Zigzagoon          |    1 |   5.56% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Archen             |    1 |   5.56% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Scraggy            |    1 |   5.56% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Magby              |    1 |   5.56% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Clamperl           |    1 |   5.56% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Chespin            |    1 |   5.56% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Corphish           |    1 |   5.56% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Doduo              |    1 |   5.56% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Rufflet            |    1 |   5.56% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Omanyte            |    1 |   5.56% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Magnemite          |    1 |   5.56% |   0.00% |

Semifinals

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |    9 |  90.00% |  44.44% |
| 2    | Diglett            |    7 |  70.00% |  42.86% |
| 3    | Onix               |    6 |  60.00% |  33.33% |
| 4    | Spritzee           |    4 |  40.00% |  75.00% |
| 4    | Staryu             |    4 |  40.00% |  50.00% |
| 4    | Mienfoo            |    4 |  40.00% |  50.00% |
| 4    | Timburr            |    4 |  40.00% |  50.00% |
| 8    | Pawniard           |    3 |  30.00% | 100.00% |
| 8    | Gastly             |    3 |  30.00% |  66.67% |
| 8    | Foongus            |    3 |  30.00% |  33.33% |
| 11   | Mareanie           |    2 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 12   | Shellder           |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 12   | Carvanha           |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 12   | Ferroseed          |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 12   | Grimer-Alola       |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 12   | Magnemite          |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 12   | Snivy              |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 12   | Ponyta             |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 12   | Rufflet            |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 12   | Snubbull           |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 12   | Chespin            |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 12   | Corphish           |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |

Finals

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |    5 |  83.33% |  60.00% |
| 2    | Timburr            |    3 |  50.00% |  66.67% |
| 2    | Onix               |    3 |  50.00% |  66.67% |
| 2    | Foongus            |    3 |  50.00% |  66.67% |
| 2    | Spritzee           |    3 |  50.00% |  66.67% |
| 2    | Diglett            |    3 |  50.00% |  33.33% |
| 2    | Mienfoo            |    3 |  50.00% |  33.33% |
| 8    | Snivy              |    2 |  33.33% | 100.00% |
| 8    | Pawniard           |    2 |  33.33% |   0.00% |
| 10   | Corphish           |    1 |  16.67% | 100.00% |
| 10   | Ferroseed          |    1 |  16.67% | 100.00% |
| 10   | Gastly             |    1 |  16.67% | 100.00% |
| 10   | Mudbray            |    1 |  16.67% |   0.00% |
| 10   | Ponyta             |    1 |  16.67% |   0.00% |
| 10   | Staryu             |    1 |  16.67% |   0.00% |
| 10   | Grimer-Alola       |    1 |  16.67% |   0.00% |
| 10   | Torchic            |    1 |  16.67% |   0.00% |
| 10   | Shellder           |    1 |  16.67% |   0.00% |

Cumulative

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Vullaby            |  205 |  89.91% |  51.22% |
| 2    | Diglett            |  120 |  52.63% |  51.67% |
| 3    | Mienfoo            |   96 |  42.11% |  48.96% |
| 4    | Pawniard           |   87 |  38.16% |  56.32% |
| 5    | Timburr            |   84 |  36.84% |  60.71% |
| 6    | Onix               |   78 |  34.21% |  53.85% |
| 7    | Foongus            |   69 |  30.26% |  52.17% |
| 8    | Spritzee           |   67 |  29.39% |  44.78% |
| 9    | Staryu             |   64 |  28.07% |  48.44% |
| 10   | Mareanie           |   56 |  24.56% |  55.36% |
| 11   | Ferroseed          |   51 |  22.37% |  49.02% |
| 12   | Abra               |   43 |  18.86% |  53.49% |
| 13   | Gastly             |   35 |  15.35% |  54.29% |
| 14   | Mudbray            |   32 |  14.04% |  46.88% |
| 15   | Ponyta             |   26 |  11.40% |  53.85% |
| 16   | Snivy              |   25 |  10.96% |  56.00% |
| 16   | Vulpix-Alola       |   25 |  10.96% |  40.00% |
| 18   | Magnemite          |   21 |   9.21% |  33.33% |
| 19   | Scraggy            |   19 |   8.33% |  31.58% |
| 20   | Magby              |   17 |   7.46% |  35.29% |
| 21   | Rufflet            |   15 |   6.58% |  40.00% |
| 22   | Doduo              |   13 |   5.70% |  38.46% |
| 23   | Grimer-Alola       |   11 |   4.82% |  54.55% |
| 24   | Shellder           |   10 |   4.39% |  70.00% |
| 24   | Snubbull           |   10 |   4.39% |  40.00% |
| 24   | Clamperl           |   10 |   4.39% |  20.00% |
| 27   | Corphish           |    8 |   3.51% |  50.00% |
| 28   | Elekid             |    7 |   3.07% |  71.43% |
| 29   | Dwebble            |    6 |   2.63% |  33.33% |
| 29   | Chinchou           |    6 |   2.63% |  33.33% |
| 31   | Chespin            |    5 |   2.19% |  40.00% |
| 31   | Carvanha           |    5 |   2.19% |  20.00% |
| 33   | Zigzagoon          |    4 |   1.75% |  50.00% |
| 33   | Omanyte            |    4 |   1.75% |  50.00% |
| 33   | Munchlax           |    4 |   1.75% |  25.00% |
| 36   | Meowth             |    3 |   1.32% |  66.67% |
| -    | Pumpkaboo-*        |    3 |   1.32% |  66.67% |
| 36   | Torchic            |    3 |   1.32% |  33.33% |
| 38   | Wynaut             |    2 |   0.88% | 100.00% |
| 38   | Klink              |    2 |   0.88% |  50.00% |
| 38   | Frillish           |    2 |   0.88% |  50.00% |
| 38   | Pumpkaboo-Super    |    2 |   0.88% |  50.00% |
| 38   | Tirtouga           |    2 |   0.88% |  50.00% |
| 38   | Pikipek            |    2 |   0.88% |   0.00% |
| 44   | Pumpkaboo-Small    |    1 |   0.44% | 100.00% |
| 44   | Archen             |    1 |   0.44% |   0.00% |
| 44   | Honedge            |    1 |   0.44% |   0.00% |
| 44   | Bidoof             |    1 |   0.44% |   0.00% |
| 44   | Croagunk           |    1 |   0.44% |   0.00% |
| 44   | Slowpoke           |    1 |   0.44% |   0.00% |
| 44   | Sandshrew-Alola    |    1 |   0.44% |   0.00% |
| 44   | Snover             |    1 |   0.44% |   0.00% |
| 44   | Shellos            |    1 |   0.44% |   0.00% |
| 44   | Cottonee           |    1 |   0.44% |   0.00% |
| 44   | Taillow            |    1 |   0.44% |   0.00% |
| 44   | Kabuto             |    1 |   0.44% |   0.00% |

 

[Flou]

send timburr to A+ its pretty good I guess

 

[LilyAC]

I think we should ban veils. It creates a terrible imbalance where you have one player just setting things up, and the opponent attempting to dance around setup sweepers, which is much more difficult, and if they make a single mistake they can just lose on the spot. It just makes for poor quality games

It's not traditionally "broken", and it has some difficult or even impossible matchups, but I don't think that matters. It's a negative presence regardless and there's no collateral if we ban it. It's a quick and easy improvement to the meta imo

thoughts?

 

[tazz]

Agreed, it’s not broken but it’s basically impossible for lots of defensive structures to deal with, and pressures the meta towards a more and more narrow band of archetypes. Even if you’re running the right kind of team, you can’t make a single mistake or you’ll lose. And even if you make no mistake, veils are often still only an air slash flinch away from winning still.

 

[Fille]

Agreed, it’s not broken but it’s basically impossible for lots of defensive structures to deal with, and pressures the meta towards a more and more narrow band of archetypes. Even if you’re running the right kind of team, you can’t make a single mistake or you’ll lose. And even if you make no mistake, veils are often still only an air slash flinch away from winning still.

Ye, as the one putting on offensive pressure, often the veils user can make multiple mistkaes, but win on a single mon getting the right turns out of 3-4 options. I highkey support a ban.

 

[Camden]

I've wanted veil gone since I was TL but could never get the support behind it. Please take this strategy out behind the shed. As the others have expressed, there are obviously checks to it. Sashbra, Timburr, Mienfoo w/ Tspikes support, and even Defog/Roar support in a pinch can help, but veil can still play around all of this. It does constrain teambuilding to some extent, but more importantly, like mentioned, creates situations where the veil team has much more flexibility with their play while you typically have to play perfectly against it or you get swept by a Magby/Scraggy/OTR Spritzee/smasher behind a wall. This doesn't even factor any natural RNG that can pop up during the game.

 

[Acehunter1]

Vulpix-Alola has been banned in SM LC (reasons discussed here).

After discussion with the council, the VR has been adjusted accordingly.

Changes

The changes were first to reflect how Aurora Veil's departure affects the meta. The rest of the drops are Pokemon with little to no usage in recent tournaments to justify their ranking. The rises are mainly Pokemon who have shown promising results recently in terms of defensive utility against metagame staples such as Vullaby and Staryu.

Rises
Archen B- → B+
Snubbull B- → B
Chinchou C+ → B+

Drops
Clamperl B+ → B
Corphish B+ → B
Tirtouga B+ → B-
Dwebble B → B-
Meowth B → B-
Bunnelby B- → C+
Pumpkaboo-Super B- → C+
Slowpoke B- → C+

 

[Flou]

Not super important, but I got bored and did the speedtiers using the Speed Tier Generator made by grape tylenol, there is one in thread cryonics but this one only contains Pokemon on the VR currently. Thought it'd be nice to have with both LCCL and Classic running.

Speed Tiers

Speed	Sprite	Pokemon	Base	Nature	IVs	EVs	±
34		Onix	70	Positive	31	196	+2
32		Vullaby	60	Positive	31	196	+2
32		Carvanha	65	Neutral	31	236	+2
32		Dwebble	55	Positive	31	236	+2
30		Vullaby	60	Neutral	31	196	+2
30		Diglett	95	Positive	31	236	+1
30		Dwebble	55	Neutral	31	236	+2
28		Vullaby	60	Neutral	31	116	+2
28		Ponyta	90	Positive	31	196	+1
28		Shellder	40	Positive	31	196	+2
28		Torchic	45	Neutral	31	236	+2
28		Sandshrew-Alola	40	Positive	31	196	+2
28		Venipede	57	Neutral	31	148	+2
27		Gastly	80	Positive	31	196	+1
27		Doduo	75	Positive	31	236	+1
27		Salandit	77	Positive	31	220	+1
26		Shellder	40	Neutral	31	196	+2
26		Clamperl	32	Positive	31	184	+2
26		Omanyte	35	Neutral	31	236	+2
26		Sandshrew-Alola	40	Neutral	31	196	+2
25		Mienfoo	65	Positive	31	236	+1
25		Snivy	63	Positive	31	252	+1
25		Chinchou	67	Positive	31	224	+1
25		Pikipek	65	Positive	31	236	+1
25		Drilbur	68	Positive	31	212	+1
25		Sandile	65	Positive	31	236	+1
24		Vullaby	60	Positive	31	196	+1
24		Pawniard	60	Positive	31	196	+1
24		Carvanha	65	Neutral	31	236	+1
24		Rufflet	60	Positive	31	196	+1
24		Omanyte	35	Neutral	31	156	+2
24		Tirtouga	22	Positive	31	180	+2
24		Bunnelby	57	Positive	31	220	+1
24		Pikipek	65	Neutral	31	236	+1
24		Drilbur	68	Neutral	31	212	+1
24		Axew	57	Positive	31	220	+1
24		Cranidos	58	Positive	31	212	+1
24		Sandile	65	Neutral	31	236	+1
22		Vullaby	60	Neutral	31	196	+1
22		Magnemite	45	Positive	31	240	+1
22		Mudbray	45	Positive	31	236	+1
22		Scraggy	48	Positive	31	212	+1
22		Tirtouga	22	Neutral	31	180	+2
22		Amaura	46	Positive	31	228	+1
22		Bunnelby	57	Neutral	31	220	+1
22		Axew	57	Neutral	31	220	+1
22		Cranidos	58	Neutral	31	212	+1
21		Magnemite	45	Neutral	31	240	+1
21		Mudbray	45	Neutral	31	236	+1
21		Corphish	35	Positive	31	236	+1
21		Frillish	40	Positive	31	196	+1
21		Scraggy	48	Neutral	31	212	+1
21		Torchic	45	Neutral	31	236	+1
21		Amaura	46	Neutral	31	228	+1
21		Pumpkaboo-Small	56	Neutral	31	148	+1
21		Sandshrew-Alola	40	Positive	31	196	+1
21		Venipede	57	Neutral	31	148	+1
21		Snover	40	Positive	31	200	+1
20		Diglett	95	Positive	31	236	0
20		Elekid	95	Positive	31	236	0
19		Abra	90	Positive	31	196	0
19		Staryu	85	Positive	31	236	0
19		Ponyta	90	Positive	31	196	0
19		Magby	83	Positive	31	252	0
19		Corphish	35	Neutral	31	236	+1
19		Meowth	90	Positive	31	196	0
19		Taillow	85	Positive	31	236	0
18		Gastly	80	Positive	31	200	0
18		Doduo	75	Positive	31	236	0
18		Salandit	77	Positive	31	220	0
18		Stunky	74	Positive	31	244	0
18		Anorith	75	Positive	31	236	0
18		Deerling	75	Positive	31	236	0
17		Mienfoo	65	Positive	31	236	0
17		Onix	70	Positive	31	196	0
17		Snivy	63	Positive	31	252	0
17		Archen	70	Positive	31	196	0
17		Cottonee	66	Positive	31	232	0
17		Pikipek	65	Positive	31	236	0
17		Drilbur	68	Positive	31	212	0
17		Natu	70	Positive	31	196	0
17		Trubbish	65	Positive	31	236	0
16		Vullaby	60	Positive	31	196	0
16		Pawniard	60	Positive	31	196	0
16		Carvanha	65	Neutral	31	236	0
16		Chinchou	67	Neutral	31	220	0
16		Dwebble	55	Positive	31	236	0
16		Bunnelby	57	Positive	31	220	0
16		Axew	57	Positive	31	220	0
16		Cranidos	58	Positive	31	212	0
15		Vullaby	60	Neutral	31	196	0
15		Pawniard	60	Neutral	31	196	0
15		Magnemite	45	Positive	31	236	0
15		Scraggy	48	Positive	31	212	0
15		Dwebble	55	Neutral	31	236	0
15		Bunnelby	57	Neutral	31	220	0
15		Axew	57	Neutral	31	220	0
14		Vullaby	60	Neutral	31	116	0
14		Magnemite	45	Neutral	31	236	0
14		Chinchou	67	Neutral	31	60	0
14		Shellder	40	Positive	31	196	0
14		Corphish	35	Positive	31	236	0
14		Scraggy	48	Neutral	31	212	0
14		Torchic	45	Neutral	31	236	0
14		Stunky	74	Neutral	31	4	0
14		Pumpkaboo-Small	56	Neutral	31	148	0
14		Sandshrew-Alola	40	Positive	31	196	0
14		Venipede	57	Neutral	31	148	0
14		Natu	70	Neutral	31	36	0
13		Mienfoo	65	Neutral	31	0	0
13		Mudbray	45	Neutral	31	156	0
13		Rufflet	60	Neutral	31	36	0
13		Shellder	40	Neutral	31	196	0
13		Clamperl	32	Positive	31	184	0
13		Omanyte	35	Neutral	31	236	0
13		Zigzagoon	60	Neutral	31	36	0
13		Larvesta	60	Neutral	31	36	0
13		Riolu	60	Neutral	31	36	0
13		Sandshrew-Alola	40	Neutral	31	196	0
12		Omanyte	35	Neutral	31	156	0
12		Croagunk	50	Neutral	31	36	0
12		Tirtouga	22	Positive	31	180	0
12		Budew	55	Neutral	31	0	0
11		Mareanie	45	Neutral	31	0	0
11		Tirtouga	22	Neutral	31	180	0
11		Pumpkaboo-Super	41	Neutral	31	28	0
11		Pancham	43	Neutral	31	12	0
10		Timburr	35	Neutral	31	0	0
10		Frillish	40	Neutral	31	0	0
10		Snubbull	30	Neutral	31	36	0
10		Chespin	38	Neutral	31	0	0
10		Honedge	28	Neutral	31	52	0
10		Koffing	35	Neutral	31	0	0
10		Hippopotas	32	Neutral	31	20	0
9		Spritzee	23	Neutral	31	12	0
9		Grimer-Alola	25	Neutral	31	0	0
9		Tirtouga	22	Neutral	31	20	0
9		Wynaut	23	Neutral	31	12	0
9		Pumpkaboo-Super	41	Negative	31	28	0
9		Lileep	23	Neutral	31	12	0
9		Snover	40	Negative	31	0	0
8		Foongus	15	Neutral	31	0	0
8		Slowpoke	15	Neutral	31	0	0
7		Ferroseed	10	Neutral	31	0	0
7		Munchlax	5	Neutral	31	0	0
4		Munchlax	5	Neutral	31	0	-1
3		Munchlax	5	Neutral	31	0	-2

Promote Timburr to A+ on the VR btw