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I'd find it pretty unlikely that Silvally-Normal would drop to PU. Something to keep in mind is that Silvally-Normal's Explosion is the strongest non-ate Explosion in the game. With Normalium Z, that means it can hit with a 200BP STAB followed by a 250BP STAB, which can be boosted with Swords Dance. I've tested quite a bit in OU and even there that thing can smash holes in teams easily, and usually at worst forced a trade. It's movepool is enough to work with the nuke 'n boom strategy, with Iron Head, Crunch and Fire coverage targeting its resists. Magnet Pull and Pursuit also gives it team options to eliminate Steels and Ghosts, making it easier to smash open the opposing team.

Alongside Eeveelutions, there's also this:



220 BP Stored Power + Adaptability Hyper Voice at a potential 458 speed is brutal and the +2/+2 defense boosts give Eevee actual bulk. HP Ground covers most of the limited Normal/Psychic resists (mostly just Steel-types by PU). To give an example of its power, Eevee's Timid Stored Power hits a bit harder than Glaceon's Modest Specs Ice Beam against a neutral target. Even though it has to have Last Resort on its moveset to use Extreme Evoboost and needs to find an opening to set up, this thing has all the coverage it needs in 3 moves.

+2 252 SpA Eevee Stored Power (220 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Stoutland: 274-323 (88.1 - 103.8%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
+2 252 SpA Eevee Stored Power (220 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-Frost: 238-281 (98.7 - 116.5%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
+2 252 SpA Eevee Stored Power (220 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Muk: 336-396 (81.1 - 95.6%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252 SpA Eevee Stored Power (220 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Clefairy: 158-187 (45.9 - 54.3%) -- 53.5% chance to 2HKO
+2 252 SpA Adaptability Eevee Hyper Voice vs. 80 HP / 0 SpD Grumpig: 192-226 (59.8 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 SpA Eevee Hidden Power Ground vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 224-264 (92.9 - 109.5%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
+2 252 SpA Eevee Hidden Power Ground vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Probopass: 196-232 (64.4 - 76.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 SpA Eevee Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Metang: 112-132 (34.5 - 40.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Return vs. +2 0 HP / 0 Def Eevee: 211-250 (84 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Iron Fist Monferno Mach Punch vs. +2 0 HP / 0 Def Eevee: 108-128 (43 - 50.9%) -- 3.5% chance to 2HKO
 

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I severely doubt that Wishiwashi will ever reach PU. Here are just a few calcs showing Wishiwashi tanking the strongest SE hits in 6th Gen PU. All calcs are with this set:

Wishiwashi-School @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Schooling
EVs: 44 Atk / 228 SpA / 236 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Calcs:

252 Atk Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Wishiwashi-School: 157-186 (67.9 - 80.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
228 SpA Wishiwashi-School Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 290-342 (107 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Cacturne Energy Ball vs. 0 HP / 236+ SpD Wishiwashi-School: 172-205 (74.4 - 88.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
228 SpA Wishiwashi-School Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Cacturne: 344-406 (122.4 - 144.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Stunfisk Discharge vs. 0 HP / 236+ SpD Wishiwashi-School: 64-78 (27.7 - 33.7%) -- 0.2% chance to 3HKO
228 SpA Wishiwashi-School Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Stunfisk: 204-242 (48.3 - 57.3%) -- 46.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Zebstrika Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 236+ SpD Wishiwashi-School: 123-146 (53.2 - 63.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
44 Atk Wishiwashi-School Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zebstrika: 290-342 (99.6 - 117.5%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Roselia Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 236+ SpD Wishiwashi-School: 172-204 (74.4 - 88.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (Wishiwashi uses Rest)
-2 252+ SpA Roselia Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 236+ SpD Wishiwashi-School: 87-103 (37.6 - 44.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO (Roselia CANNOT 2HKO anymore)
228 SpA Wishiwashi-School Ice Beam vs. 40 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Roselia: 164-194 (65.3 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (One of each or Both of either is a 2HKO)
44 Atk Wishiwashi-School Earthquake vs. 40 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Roselia: 124-147 (49.4 - 58.5%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO (One of each or Both of either is a 2HKO)
252 SpA Life Orb Raichu Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 236+ SpD Wishiwashi-School: 131-158 (56.7 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
44 Atk Wishiwashi-School Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raichu: 322-380 (123.3 - 145.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
If Wishiwashi ever does reach the depths of PU, I think it will be banned shortly after, because very few teams carry more than 2 checks to this.
 
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Why is nobody speculating about a tier below PU? There's gotta be a place for Delcatty to shine. And I won't stop until there's a tier where I can use my favorite Pokemon, Toucannon, and win. I'm serious.



Also, Togedemaru is precious. Unlike the other electric rodents, he can paraflinch with Nuzzle and Zing Zap. Iron Barbs and Sturdy also give him niches over other Electric-types. He's the best electric rodent by far, well at least in a competitive sense. Aesthetically I love Emolga, but why am I talking about aesthetics on Smogon?

Togedemaru @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Magnet Rise
- Nuzzle
- Zing Zap
- U-Turn

Togedemaru @ Terrain Extender
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Electric Terrain
- Nuzzle
- Zing Zap
- U-turn

Two sets I've been using to moderate success. Both are paraflinching sets, the first one being bulky and the second one being a fast, hard-hitting, terrain-setting lead. U-Turn is necessary on both to pivot out against Pokemon immune to Electric-type moves and paralysis.

Of course, there will be plenty more wonderful Pokemon being added to PU besides Togedemaru. Oricorio is awesome, Lurantis is fabulous, and of course I will defend Toucannon until I die. Everyone is great. Every Pokemon deserves love. Peace.
 
Not sure how viable this would be, but...


Regigigas @ Normalium Z
Ability: Slow Start
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Def
Adamant Nature
- Return
- Knock Off / Drain Punch
- Thunder Wave / Substitute / Drain Punch
- Psych Up

Psych Up is pretty situational, but helps it to deal with Bulk Up and Curse mons such as CroMuk and can possibly find opportunities to grab SD/DD boosts to help it sweep. What isn't situational is Z-Psych Up, which recovers Regigigas' health to full and finally gives Regigigas recovery to help stall out Slow Start. Normalium-Z also gives Regigigas a 160 BP Breakneck Blitz it can use to take out a Pokemon just out of KO range. Edit: Realized something it can pull of now, if it gets a free sub it can easily sub down to 1% HP (if it needs to) then Z-Psych Up to heal itself on the turn the last sub is broken. At that point Slow Start is over and your Regigigas is at full HP. Still wrecked by phazing though.

+6 252+ Atk Slow Start Regigigas Return vs. +6 252 HP / 0 Def Muk: 213-252 (51.4 - 60.8%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
252+ Atk Slow Start Regigigas Breakneck Blitz (160 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Monferno: 280-331 (104 - 123%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Slow Start Regigigas Breakneck Blitz (160 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Floatzel: 271-319 (87.1 - 102.5%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Slow Start Regigigas Breakneck Blitz (160 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Simisage: 244-288 (83.8 - 98.9%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Slow Start Regigigas Breakneck Blitz (160 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mr. Mime: 237-280 (107.2 - 126.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Slow Start Regigigas Breakneck Blitz (160 BP) vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Grumpig: 238-282 (74.1 - 87.8%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Slow Start Regigigas Breakneck Blitz (160 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Clefairy (Eviolite knocked off): 297-351 (86.3 - 102%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
 
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Turtonator seems like a really cool mon with a surprising amount of versatility. I've cooked up a few sets that I think will be fairly decent for it to use.
Turtonator @ Life Orb
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
- Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
- Shell Smash

This set is built around setting up a shell smash and denting the opposition with your strong Fire Blasts, Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteors, and Focus Blasts for coverage. At +2 it can outspeed even Zebstrika so its not the slowest thing ever either. Makes for a decent late game cleaner/breaker.
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Turtonator Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Stoutland: 308-363 (99 - 116.7%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Turtonator Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 224+ SpD Grumpig: 298-351 (82 - 96.6%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Turtonator Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Clefairy: 231-273 (67.1 - 79.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


Turtonator @ Choice Specs
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
- Draco Meteor
- Flash Cannon

This is a kind of Bulky Wallbreaker set that abuses its decent SpA and strong STABs and coverage to allow to hit hard against a lot of mons on the enemy team. Decent for immediate damage, but still weaker than the Shell Smash set (obviously). This set also utilizes its decent bulk to allow it to take out strong mons on the opponent's team.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Turtonator Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Stoutland: 368-434 (118.3 - 139.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Return vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Turtonator: 187-222 (57.8 - 68.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Turtonator Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Stunfisk: 234-276 (55.4 - 65.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Stunfisk Earth Power vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Turtonator: 186-222 (57.5 - 68.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Turtonator Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 224+ SpD Golem: 328-386 (90.1 - 106%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
32 Atk Golem Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Turtonator: 200-236 (61.9 - 73%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


Turtonator @ Leftovers
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 248 HP / 204 Def / 56 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Will-O-Wisp / Sleep Talk
- Toxic / Rest
- Dragon Tail
- Flamethrower / Sleep Talk

Finally, a set that abuses Turtonator's high as hell defense stat (135) and its decent special defense (85). The EVs allow it to tank Offensive Roselia's Sludge Bombs, Offensive Tangela's Ancient Powers, etc. Pairs well with hazard removal as well as a special tank like Audino to help it survive longer+give it recovery in healing wish.
252+ SpA Roselia Sludge Bomb vs. 248 HP / 56 SpD Turtonator: 144-171 (44.5 - 52.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Return vs. 248 HP / 204+ Def Turtonator: 147-174 (45.5 - 53.8%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Bouffalant Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 204+ Def Turtonator: 192-228 (59.4 - 70.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band burned Bouffalant Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 204+ Def Turtonator: 96-114 (29.7 - 35.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Life Orb Monferno Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 204+ Def Turtonator: 121-144 (37.4 - 44.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
Went over the new NFEs, and besides Mareanie mentioned by Taskr, I found this gem:



Example Set:
Grimer-Alola @ Eviolite
Ability: Poison Touch
EVs: 8 HP / 252 Atk / 248 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit
- Knock Off
- Poison Jab
- Taunt

Not sure exactly what the best set would be, but it isn't hard to make this eat the tier's Psychics alive (Edit: Except Metang, but it really doesn't like Knock Off). STAB Pursuit, STAB Knock Off and STAB Poison Jab for Mr. Mime, and with the example set, they at best 4HKO (except Kadabra, which 3HKOs with HP Ground and takes over 100% damage from 40BP Pursuit, and Metang which 2HKOs with EQ) while Grimer at worst 2HKOs back (and usually 3HKOs or better with 40BP Pursuit). Poison Touch + Poison Jab also makes it really hard to avoid getting poisoned by it. 252+ Explosion can also take a big chunk of HP from things it can't beat. Plus it has a bit of priority with Shadow Sneak. Seems to me that it'd be phenomenal anti-Psychic support here.
 
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Speaking of NFEs and gems, lets just talk about the man the myth the legend that I've brought up before but haven't really talked about yet:

Type: Null @ Eviolite
Ability: Battle Armor
Happiness: 0
EVs: 200 HP / 252 SpD / 56 Spe
Careful Nature
- Frustration
- U-turn
- Toxic
- Thunder Wave

Type: Null is out here being a fatter Porygon2 without recovery and coverage. What does it have to make up for this and not be a complete waste of space? Extra bulk, and the ability to pivot. At first, Type: Null's bulk doesn't seem noteworthy if its going to be competeing with Audino, which can heal passively and has wish, and Vigoroth with its extremely powerful stallbreaking capabilities, however Type: Null still makes a fantastic pivot in my honest opinion. 95/95/95 bulk is already good bulk but combo'd with eviolite it manages to dodge the KO from a lot, and I mean a LOT of mons, being able to dish out the yellow magic and toxic to handle some really powerful mons in the tier.
+2 252+ SpA Eevee Stored Power (220 BP) vs. 200 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Type: Null: 138-163 (36.2 - 42.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+2 252+ SpA Eevee Stored Power (220 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Audino: 219-258 (53.4 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ SpA Eevee Stored Power (220 BP) vs. 252 HP / 240 SpD Eviolite Vigoroth: 211-249 (57.9 - 68.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Combusken Focus Blast vs. 200 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Type: Null: 195-229 (51.1 - 60.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Combusken Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Audino: 304-359 (74.1 - 87.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Combusken Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 240 SpD Eviolite Vigoroth: 291-346 (79.9 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Superpower vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Type: Null: 268-316 (70.3 - 82.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Superpower vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Audino: 432-510 (105.3 - 124.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Vigoroth: 308-364 (84.6 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO


From the Calcs, you can get a glimpse of how it compares to the other specially defensive normals, specifically Audino and Vigoroth. It's noticeably bulkier, and while it lacks some of the utility of Audino or the stallbreaking potential of Vigoroth, what it does have is its pure bulk that in my honest opinion can fuel this thing to be a great mon, maybe on Semi-Stall, Stall, or Balance teams.
 
One more NFE. Think I found out how you could make Vulpix-A work, though it mostly still sucks.


Example Set:
Vulpix-Alola @ Eviolite
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 248 HP / 20 SpA / 240 SpD
Calm Nature
- Aurora Veil
- Encore
- Blizzard
- Toxic

252 SpA Rotom-Frost Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 240+ SpD Eviolite Vulpix-Alola: 81-96 (29 - 34.4%) -- 3.4% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Floatzel Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 240+ SpD Eviolite Vulpix-Alola: 110-133 (39.4 - 47.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Electrode Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 240+ SpD Eviolite Vulpix-Alola: 97-114 (34.7 - 40.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Swanna Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 240+ SpD Eviolite Vulpix-Alola: 113-134 (40.5 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Articuno Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 240+ SpD Eviolite Vulpix-Alola: 93-109 (33.3 - 39%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Provided you can keep rocks cleared, Vulpix-A can switch into special attackers, set up Aurora Veil and then promptly die. Encore can help a setup sweeper or Beartic/Sandslash-A (if they aren't taken by higher tiers) switch in safely, and allows Vulipx-A to abuse slow defensive Pokemon. Blizzard (or Freeze Dry if you want something for Swanna) scares out Special-weak Grass-types like Gourgeist and Tangela while also keeping Hippopotas from trying to switch in and stop Aurora Veil. Against anything not weak to Ice, Toxic is your best bet at contributing damage (stats are so awful). There's also a couple other options like Hypnosis or Safeguard for extra support and Ice Shard to contribute a little extra chip damage after it's done its thing.

Could make it really easy to set up combos such as Beheeyem Trick Room + Z-Psychic Terrain (+1 SpA boosted by Psychic Terrain with priority immunity), and provides a bit of extra chip damage/sash breaking as well. Hakamo-o also seems like an interesting teammate, since it's a possible DD sweeper that can run Overcoat so it doesn't take chip damage from Hail.
 
I think Dartrix is a really interesting mon due to its pure versatility. Its stats are alright for a potential eviolite mon. 78/75/70 defenses with healing. (no leech seed tho)
I know a lot of mons could potentially be leaving or joining PU so i dont really know what to calc but this mon does get a decent set of support moves

Dartrix has many options. Defog hazards and potentially beat stealth rockers with grass typing. ((252+ Atk Golem Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Dartrix: 198-234 (55.1 - 65.1%))
Depending on crits u could stall out with roost and possibly beat. Access to SD pass and NP pass is also very interesting. Lack of speed is unfortunate for passing but bulk could potentially be enough.
Able to limit set up with access to Haze is nice and lastly access to Light Screen and the underrated FeatherDance. Although I dont think this will by any means become a staple of PU i think it has an
oppurtunity to pull off a few different roles.
 
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Turtonator seems like a really cool mon with a surprising amount of versatility. I've cooked up a few sets that I think will be fairly decent for it to use.
Turtonator @ Life Orb
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
- Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
- Shell Smash

This set is built around setting up a shell smash and denting the opposition with your strong Fire Blasts, Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteors, and Focus Blasts for coverage. At +2 it can outspeed even Zebstrika so its not the slowest thing ever either. Makes for a decent late game cleaner/breaker.
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Turtonator Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Stoutland: 308-363 (99 - 116.7%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Turtonator Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 224+ SpD Grumpig: 298-351 (82 - 96.6%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Turtonator Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Clefairy: 231-273 (67.1 - 79.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Me and MB built a team recently utilizing SS Turt and i must say it has the potential of being an extraordinarily scary pokemon, the ability to actually tank quite a lot of hits as well as pivot into electrics,fires and weak physical attackers is second to none and the ability to outspeed the entire tier with a stab combo that hits near everything neutrally is fantastic (Carbink is the wall people) The only issue with the set you posted imo is Focus Blast which does virtually nothing outside of some Normal-Types which even then doesn't have nearly as much utility compared to Taunt, It just gives overall more utility capable of preventing other set-up,status,haze,phaze ect and you are simply more likely to click it rather then focus blast.
 

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For those of you who do not know, Masquerain received a massive buff in gen 7 to help it compete with the other Quiver Dancers of the game, and while it still can't compete with, say, Venomoth or Volcarona, what it can compete with are the Quiver Dancers of PU such as Butterfree, or Mothim (lol). +40 BST (+20 SpA, +20 Spe) is massive for Masquerain as it allows it to both outspeed and outdamage Butterfree by 10 points, which when combo'd with its fantastic bug+nonstab water coverage means that it can do a number on quite a few mons in the meta. Add Intimidate into the mix, as well as decent overall bulk, and you have a mon that in gen 7 might just be fairly good in the future metagame (if NU doesn't steal it >:[).

Masquerain @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 16 HP / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Hydro Pump
- Bug Buzz
- Air Slash

With 100 Special Attack, Masquerain is the strongest Quiver Dancer in the tier, tied with only Beautifly (lol) in damage output, and has decent enough bulk with intimidate to not get completely ruined by physical attackers (can barely survive stoutland's CB frustration, not that surviving that really matters for Masquerain with LO). 240 speed allows you to outspeed modest scarf Chatot after a QD, while 16 HP is just there for extra bulk.
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Masquerain Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Zebstrika: 344-407 (118.2 - 139.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Masquerain Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Stunfisk: 393-463 (93.1 - 109.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Masquerain Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 240 SpD Eviolite Vigoroth: 183-216 (50.2 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Masquerain Bug Buzz vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Assault Vest Bouffalant: 165-196 (41.9 - 49.8%) -- 89.5% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
-1 252+ Atk Bouffalant Return vs. 40 HP / 0 Def Masquerain: 160-189 (54.9 - 64.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Masquerain Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Stoutland: 261-308 (83.9 - 99%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Return vs. 40 HP / 0 Def Masquerain: 238-282 (81.7 - 96.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


Masquerain @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 152 HP / 252 Def / 104 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Roost
- Scald / Hydro Pump / Air Slash
- Bug Buzz

Bulky Quiver Dance probably isn't Masq's best set, but its not horrible in my honest opinion. Decent bulk and good speed allows it to outspeed Zebstrika, which if it swaps in after you Quiver Dance is just setup fodder in the end. Scald is good utility, Hydro is good Coverage, and Air Slash is a good secondary stab option, it's all really based on the team+preference.
252 SpA Life Orb Zebstrika Thunderbolt vs. +1 152 HP / 0 SpD Masquerain: 218-260 (68.3 - 81.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 0 SpA Masquerain Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Zebstrika: 211-249 (72.5 - 85.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Return vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Masquerain: 172-204 (53.9 - 63.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 0 SpA Masquerain Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Stoutland: 159-187 (51.1 - 60.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Life Orb Simisear Flamethrower vs. +1 152 HP / 0 SpD Masquerain: 250-296 (78.3 - 92.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 0 SpA Masquerain Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Simisear: 248-294 (85.2 - 101%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Rotom-Frost Blizzard vs. +1 152 HP / 0 SpD Masquerain: 246-290 (77.1 - 90.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Rotom-Frost Blizzard vs. +2 152 HP / 0 SpD Masquerain: 186-218 (58.3 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 0 SpA Masquerain Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-Frost: 183-216 (75.9 - 89.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock


Also, Masquerain can run a neat agility+3 attacks set that outspeeds the majority of the metagame, but it doesn't look fantastic, just thought that it was noteworthy enough to bring up.

I'll stop with the set spam now :[
 

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So Alolan Persian has already been discussed a bit but I wanted to talk about a set that user ayo sb was using that's very useful.

LaSaga (Persian-Alola) @ Leftovers
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Def / 76 Spe or 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Foul Play
- Parting Shot / Taunt
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Persian's access to the abilty Fur Coat has made this cat an absurd physical wall when combined with bulk investment. This set counters or at the very least checks pretty much every physical attacker in the tier outside of Monferno, Mawile, Combusken, a few banded breakers, and any other fighting type we might get. Most notably, this set can counter Banded Stoutland thanks to its insane bulk and naturally high speed. To show just how much this set checks/walls, here's a wall of calcs:


252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Persian-Alola: 190-224 (56.8 - 67%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
0- Atk Persian-Alola Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Stoutland: 166-196 (53.3 - 63%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
After atk drop and lefties stout has a very slim chance of 2hkoing with a decent chance with rocks up. However Persian can still 100% beat/check it by resting or parting shot out to a fighting resist.

252+ Atk Choice Band Muk Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Persian-Alola: 136-162 (40.7 - 48.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
0- Atk Persian-Alola Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Muk: 186-220 (44.9 - 53.1%) -- 31.6% chance to 2HKO
Only checks Banded Muk but Parting Shot can be used to pivot quite effectively.

+2 252 Atk Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Persian-Alola: 129-153 (38.6 - 45.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 0- Atk Persian-Alola Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Leafeon: 220-259 (81.1 - 95.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Choice Band Floatzel Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Persian-Alola: 42-49 (12.5 - 14.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever
0- Atk Persian-Alola Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Floatzel: 214-253 (68.8 - 81.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252+ Atk Pawniard Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Persian-Alola: 106-126 (31.7 - 37.7%) -- 0.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 Atk Charcoal Rapidash Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Persian-Alola: 97-115 (29 - 34.4%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

+2 252+ Atk Bouffalant Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Persian-Alola: 160-189 (47.9 - 56.5%) -- 33.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

+2 252+ Atk Crustle X-Scissor vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Persian-Alola: 242-288 (72.4 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

+2 252 Atk Ursaring Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Persian-Alola: 258-304 (77.2 - 91%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery


What makes this set stand out isn't just its incredible physical bulk or high natural speed but also it's amazing utility in Foul Play, Parting Shot, and Taunt. Foul Play makes up for the passive nature of the set. Parting Shot supports more frail teammates and can facilitate setup sweepers nicely, especially with all the switches this set forces. Taunt can let the set beat certain bulky setup sweepers, namely CroMuk and Quagsire. RestTalk makes up for Persian's lack of recovery and makes it a decent status absorber. 76 speed EVs allow Persian to outspeed max speed base 80s such as Arbok, Grumpig, Altaria, and Stoutland. Though this isn't necessary its a good benchmark to hit and Persian doesn't sacrifice much bulk to achieve it.

After asking around, I'm not sure if Persian will end up dropping to PU, especially if similar sets become popular in higher tiers. However I still wanted to showcase this interesting mon and keep my fingers crossed that this gem could drop to PU.
 
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i will give my opinions on things i don't think are going to be PU:
A-raichu: if tapukoko doesn't get a ban, a-raichu will have a strong niche in OU, i'm not saying this is going to be OU(quagsire ended in PU last gen and it had a solid niche in OU), even if tapu gets banned, a-raichu is a better raichu that can beat special walls with NP +psyshock, also eletric terrain teams may be a thing in lower tiers and i can't see this powerhouse being PU.

A-persian: i've been using this, and it have a nice niche in OU with the z-parting shot set, another mon that is not going to be OU but will have a solid niche, also z-parting shot is too strong for PU, if the pivot set wasn't a thing, this would be a pretty solid PU mon with Techinchain + NP. but i'm pretty sure this is to op for pu.

araquanid: this shit hits harder than azumarill and have a nice bulk/defensive typing. definetly it's going to be in a tier higher than PU.

snowslash: i can see this being a solid NU mon tnks to abomasnow/vaniluxe running arround.

comfey: CM + taunt + priority recovery + priority Draning kiss is kinda op, i've beeing using it for a while and i think it's too much for PU too.
 

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Honestly the crab might hit too hard for this tier
There are several Pokémon in this tier that have high Attack stats above base 130 but terrible defensive typings and bad speed.
Some examples include Ursaring with no resistances, Flareon with a weakness to 3 common attacking types and a SR weakness, and Unfezant, again weak to SR and no good flying STAB.
 

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Okay, so I've been talking in the PU room about several things that could come to this new meta. First off:

Drampa @ Life Orb
Ability: Berserk
EVs: 136 HP / 252 SpA / 120 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Roost
- Draco Meteor
- Hyper Voice
- Fire Blast / Focus Blast / coverage

Not gonna lie, when the stats for this thing were revealed, I thought it was gonna be garbage and not even usable in PU. But after some discussion I realized that this thing is a monster. It has the amazing movepool of normal types as well as STAB Draco and a cool ability in Berserk. The more I analyze it, the more broken it seems.
252+ SpA Life Orb Drampa Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Regice: 190-226 (63.1 - 75%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Life Orb Drampa Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Regice: 190-226 (52.3 - 62.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
The Rock Polish set dies to Life Orb to take this thing out and the tank set doesn't outspeed it to avoid the 2HKO.
252+ SpA Life Orb Drampa Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Audino: 247-292 (60.2 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Life Orb Drampa Draco Meteor vs. 168 HP / 0 SpD Lickilicky: 325-383 (80.6 - 95%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Life Orb Drampa Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Lickilicky: 231-274 (54.4 - 64.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Life Orb Drampa Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Clefairy: 136-161 (39.5 - 46.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Even some of the bulkiest special walls are destroyed by this thing. I thought it'd be bad in PU but now I'm thinking it won't even fall this far.

Secondly, I think we could see a new drop of an old mon soon:

Sandslash has been dying off in usage in NU and is only ever rarely seen on low ladder team and hes been becoming less frequent since Hitmonchan and Kabutops drops (which seem like forever ago). I see this thing coming to us probably in the first tier shift on Sun and Moon (Pokebank meta of course). In my opinion it'll be fairly good here, as right now the only viable hazard removers that aren't weak to rocks are Vibrava, Lumineon, and Prinplup and those all being Defoggers means that they aren't as useful on webs/spike stack teams. Just some food for thought.
 

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Yea Drampa is scaring. Desping the fact it's slow (which however means it can fits perfecly in Trick Room for example), its Sp.Atk + its movepool is just huge ; I'd say it's perfect if it even had Sludge wave/bomb to deal with fairies.
I was thinking about a yache berry set + enough EVs in Speed to reach +138 so you can outspeed base 50 mons. Yache berry + Berserk is a free +1 and then you can just nuke.

By the way, Solrock obtains Flare Blitz while Lunatone gains Power gem. Do you guys think it might slightly improve them ?
 
There are several Pokémon in this tier that have high Attack stats above base 130 but terrible defensive typings and bad speed.
Some examples include Ursaring with no resistances, Flareon with a weakness to 3 common attacking types and a SR weakness, and Unfezant, again weak to SR and no good flying STAB.
Crab is kinda different to these mons in that it has an amazing dual STAB with very high bp moves and perfect coverage with rock neutrality and usable resists. Its STAB combo is so good in that it hits a huge amount of physical walls in the tier super effectively- Gourgeist, Tangela, Vullaby, Relicanth, Stunfisk etc. So it's incredibly difficult to scout for, because it's not just heavily denting your physical walls if you switch wrong, a la the likes of Stout, Leafeon etc, it's straight up 1hkoing them.

Not only that, but its STABs are so high BP and its attack so high that resists simply aren't enough without good bulk backing them. Offensive ice resists like Floatzel, Ninetails, Rotom-F, Combusken, Rapidash, Cryo etc all are potentially 1hko'd after rocks by a band Ice Hammer, and then slightly bulkier offensive mons like Pawniard and Grumpig all take upwards of 70%. And then you get fat mons- metang takes 33% minimum, so that's a single switchin. Regice is taking 50%~ minimum. Probopass 40%. Politoed 50%. Really, the only things that take an ice hammer comfortably are the likes of phys def Mawile and Carracosta, both of which are easily 2hko'd by close combat. So really, you can just come in and click ice hammer and something is gonna die. And I guess that's all well and good if it didn't get any switchins, but with rock neutrality, nice Ice, Dark and Bug resists and decent natural bulk it can easily eat some weaker hits from more passive mons and even avoid the 1hko from offensive mons' STABs if it gets in safely- Floatzel can't 1hko with a LO Hydro after rocks, Rotom does like 60% max with thunderbolt, Stoutland is unlikely to kill with return without rocks up, Cacturne's LO energy ball isn't killing etc. Oh, and the fact that its STABs have no recoil really helps its longevity in a match.

Basically Crab has everything it needs to make it a big threat if it ever drops down here, which I kinda doubt it will due to how useful its Dual STAB is. But if it does drop, I predict it being a bit bork. Have some crab replays anyway though:

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7pokebankou-488366852
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7pokebankou-486069577
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7pokebankou-485685126
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7pokebankou-484515823

Also alolan rat is a lord btw.
 
I've been trying alolan persian lately (in a theoretical-7gPU tour) tour and i came up with something Marogod already mentionned earlier in the thread : Z Parting Shot Alolan Persian
Although i've been using a more "defensive" set, it seems to be an amazing pivot that slow wallbreakers/set up sweepers might really enjoy. I Tried it alongside with crabominable and despite the sharing weaknesses it worked fairly well the few times it worked.

That brings me to the Crabominable point. Honestly some people have been underestimating it due to his poor defensive typing and his speed but the Fighting/Ice coverage is rly amazing (see the post just above mine), being able to put a huge pressure to a large majority of the stall builds (not to say to all) ; stalls having either altaria, vullaby or both as their primary fighting (monferno) check. I can see the choice band set being a huge threat to slower builds if it falls to PU, especially when paired to any pivot, in this case persian seemed a good choice

Here are the sets i've been using

Persian-Alola @ Darkinium Z
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Foul Play
- Parting Shot
- Taunt
- Toxic

Crabominable @ Choice Band
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ice Hammer
- Close Combat
- Earthquake
- Pursuit > i have absolutly no idea about this slot
 
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Salandit


Salandit @ Life Orb
Ability: Corrosion
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power [Grass]/Hidden Power [Ice]


So I was testing this little guy out and I think it has potential to have a decent niche in gen7 PU. Poison/Fire stab hits everything outside of rock typing neutrally and base 77 speed and a decent spatk stat allows it outspeed mons in the base 80s like monferno and stoutland, while still doing good damage. I put hp grass on it for things like the golem/carracosta switches (as they're probably still going to be our go to rockers). Another two mons in addition to rock types that would give it problems are Vibrava/Gabite. Alternatively you could choose to run HP Ice on salandit and forgo hitting carracosta in order to hit mostly vibrava, who could potentially be a problematic mon due to its recovery option. This would still allow for it to 2HKO Golem as well. I found that its paper thin def/spdef stats leave much to be desired but I think that it can certainly find opportunities to come in on clef or things that it outspeeds and do enough damage to drop something (as not much can switch into one stab and take the other). I could see it functioning well in late game or on a spikestack team where mons that could normally switch in are weakened/pressured. Lastly, NP is on this set for the added function of sweeping if at all possible. I figured that it'd be unlikely of getting one up but on a predicted sack I could see this being feasible.
252 SpA Life Orb Salandit Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Monferno: 144-172 (53.5 - 63.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Salandit Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Stoutland: 172-203 (55.3 - 65.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Salandit Sludge Bomb vs. 80 HP / 0 SpD Grumpig: 121-142 (37.6 - 44.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Salandit Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Clefairy: 242-289 (70.3 - 84%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Salandit Hidden Power Grass vs. 252 HP / 64 SpD Solid Rock Carracosta: 222-265 (63 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Salandit Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Vibrava: 265-312 (87.4 - 102.9%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Salandit Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Golem: 164-195 (54.4 - 64.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
I'm extremely new yet to posting, but I have played PU quite often. I feel that Oranguru
might carve out a niche as being a bulky stallbreaker with a set such as this:
Oranguru @ Leftovers
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Psyshock
- Thunderbolt

Basically, one should set up sub on a forced switch, or against a fat stally mon. I am not
sure yet on how to work the moves. If quagsire stays, energy ball could be a decent choice to run on this set.
Its subs are suprisingly strong with this set. 0 Atk Audino Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Oranguru: 86-102 (22.3 - 26.5%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Quagsire Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Oranguru: 78-93 (20.3 - 24.2%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Clefairy Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Oranguru: 63-75 (16.4 - 19.5%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Vullaby Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Oranguru: 84-98 (21.8 - 25.5%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Grumpig Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Oranguru: 94-111 (24.4 - 28.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
4 Atk Muk Poison Jab vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Oranguru: 76-90 (19.8 - 23.4%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Probopass Flash Cannon vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Oranguru: 93-109 (24.2 - 28.4%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
In summary, oranguru can set up on a lot of walls with this set,
making it a potentially good candidate as a stallbreaker.

Monferno would make a good teammate because it would be a good counter to dark type pokemon, and oranguru is a good psychic type check.
 
Hi. I'm new to posting also, but I have played PU before. Looking
at the way the meta has been trending, it seems to be quite favorable
towards quagsire. This is an unconventional pokemon, Torracat.
One might ask, why should I use this over ninetales or monferno?
This pokemon has the intimidate ability, unlike monferno or ninetales. It also boasts a better speed
tier than monferno, at base 90. It can also run a physical swords dance, or a possibly a stallbreaking set.
Ninetales 2.0 @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Nasty Plot
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Fire Blast
This set can work well because of HP grass and a base 80 special attack, comparable to ninetales.
252 SpA Torracat Hidden Power Grass vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Quagsire: 272-320 (69 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery (-1 0 Atk Quagsire Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Torracat: 146-174 (53.8 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO)
+2 252 SpA Torracat Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Audino: 205-243 (50 - 59.2%) -- 77.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recoil (Audino's knock off does not break your sub.)
-1 4 Atk Muk Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Torracat: 70-84 (25.8 - 30.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+2 252 SpA Torracat Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Muk: 186-220 (44.9 - 53.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recover (Much more likely after stealth rocks.)

Another interesting set is the choice scarf set,
while not nearly as bulky, intimidate does help it against priority.
Ex:-1 4 Atk Life Orb Cacturne Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Torracat: 129-152 (47.6 - 56%) -- 77.7% chance to 2HKO
Torracat @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Toxic (Or some random filler.)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- U-turn
- Overheat
It also has u-turn to help keep up momentum. It should also work well against quagsire stall. It speed ties
with choice scarf Mr. Mime and outspeeds scarf Rotom Frost.
Calcs:
252 SpA Torracat Overheat vs. 60 HP / 148+ SpD Bronzor: 270-320 (100 - 118.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Torracat Hidden Power Grass vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Quagsire: 272-320 (69 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Torracat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-Frost: 290-344 (120.3 - 142.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Torracat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 438-516 (161.6 - 190.4%)-- guaranteed OHKO
A good time mate would be any wallbreaker (such as Dodrio or Stoutland) that can take care of Audino, Muk, and probopass would be a great teammate.
In return, Torracat will take on mawile for that said wallbreaker.
EDIT: This probably won't be very good until intimidate is released.
 
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Hi. I'm new to posting also, but I have played PU before. Looking
at the way the meta has been trending, it seems to be quite favorable
towards quagsire. This is an unconventional pokemon, Torracat.
One might ask, why should I use this over ninetales or monferno?
This pokemon has the intimidate ability, unlike monferno or ninetales. It also boasts a better speed
tier than monferno, at base 90. It can also run a physical swords dance, or a possibly a stallbreaking set.
Ninetales 2.0 @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Nasty Plot
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Fire Blast
This set can work well because of HP grass and a base 80 special attack, comparable to ninetales.
252 SpA Torracat Hidden Power Grass vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Quagsire: 272-320 (69 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery (-1 0 Atk Quagsire Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Torracat: 146-174 (53.8 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO)
+2 252 SpA Torracat Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Audino: 205-243 (50 - 59.2%) -- 77.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recoil (Audino's knock off does not break your sub.)
-1 4 Atk Muk Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Torracat: 70-84 (25.8 - 30.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+2 252 SpA Torracat Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Muk: 186-220 (44.9 - 53.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recover (Much more likely after stealth rocks.)

Another interesting set is the choice scarf set,
while not nearly as bulky, intimidate does help it against priority.
Ex:-1 4 Atk Life Orb Cacturne Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Torracat: 129-152 (47.6 - 56%) -- 77.7% chance to 2HKO
Torracat @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Toxic (Or some random filler.)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- U-turn
- Overheat
It also has u-turn to help keep up momentum. It should also work well against quagsire stall. It speed ties
with choice scarf Mr. Mime and outspeeds scarf Rotom Frost.
Calcs:
252 SpA Torracat Overheat vs. 60 HP / 148+ SpD Bronzor: 270-320 (100 - 118.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Torracat Hidden Power Grass vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Quagsire: 272-320 (69 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Torracat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-Frost: 290-344 (120.3 - 142.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Torracat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 438-516 (161.6 - 190.4%)-- guaranteed OHKO
A good time mate would be any wallbreaker (such as Dodrio or Stoutland) that can take care of Audino, Muk, and probopass would be a great teammate.
In return, Torracat will take on mawile for that said wallbreaker.
Intimidate is unreleased on it.
 
Hi. I'm new to posting also, but I have played PU before. Looking
at the way the meta has been trending, it seems to be quite favorable
towards quagsire. This is an unconventional pokemon, Torracat.
One might ask, why should I use this over ninetales or monferno?
This pokemon has the intimidate ability, unlike monferno or ninetales. It also boasts a better speed
tier than monferno, at base 90. It can also run a physical swords dance, or a possibly a stallbreaking set.
Ninetales 2.0 @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Nasty Plot
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Fire Blast
This set can work well because of HP grass and a base 80 special attack, comparable to ninetales.
252 SpA Torracat Hidden Power Grass vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Quagsire: 272-320 (69 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery (-1 0 Atk Quagsire Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Torracat: 146-174 (53.8 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO)
+2 252 SpA Torracat Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Audino: 205-243 (50 - 59.2%) -- 77.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recoil (Audino's knock off does not break your sub.)
-1 4 Atk Muk Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Torracat: 70-84 (25.8 - 30.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+2 252 SpA Torracat Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Muk: 186-220 (44.9 - 53.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recover (Much more likely after stealth rocks.)

Another interesting set is the choice scarf set,
while not nearly as bulky, intimidate does help it against priority.
Ex:-1 4 Atk Life Orb Cacturne Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Torracat: 129-152 (47.6 - 56%) -- 77.7% chance to 2HKO
Torracat @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Toxic (Or some random filler.)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- U-turn
- Overheat
It also has u-turn to help keep up momentum. It should also work well against quagsire stall. It speed ties
with choice scarf Mr. Mime and outspeeds scarf Rotom Frost.
Calcs:
252 SpA Torracat Overheat vs. 60 HP / 148+ SpD Bronzor: 270-320 (100 - 118.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Torracat Hidden Power Grass vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Quagsire: 272-320 (69 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Torracat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-Frost: 290-344 (120.3 - 142.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Torracat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 438-516 (161.6 - 190.4%)-- guaranteed OHKO
A good time mate would be any wallbreaker (such as Dodrio or Stoutland) that can take care of Audino, Muk, and probopass would be a great teammate.
In return, Torracat will take on mawile for that said wallbreaker.
There is no reason to use Torracat over Ninetales or Simisear for that matter due to both having a better speed tier as well as coverage (Ninetales has Energy Ball+Dark Pulse/Psyshock,Simisear Focus Blast/Grass Knot) extra bulk is cute but not worth it.

The second set posted i really dont wanna comment on but alas. That set to put it bluntly is just horrible your only way of doing notable damage is overheat which not only has plenty of switch ins (fire resists are fairly common atm) but is very abusable when at -2. Whenever smpu comes out torracat may posses a niche but not only is it impossible to know exactly what that looks like its fairly unlikely we will lose any of our fire types in general and each one simply put has more going for it.

Edit - also yeah intimidate is unreleased and focusing on quag stall just for apeculation isnt all that solid when it likely will change come our ladder+new mons

Edit 2- it wont be very good even when intimidate is released.
 
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Edit 2- it wont be very good even when intimidate is released.
Okay I typed this post out and it was way longer than I intended but hear me out.

Torracat could be good, but not as an all-out attacker in my opinion. I'm going to compare this mon to Monferno because they are very similar. Both have access to both Nasty Plot and Swords Dance, making them unpredictable when they come in. They both share the Fire typing, which all around isn't that bad offensively. However, that's kinda where the similarities stop. Torracat, while stat-wise is slightly better than Monferno, lacks two things: priority for offensive sets (why doesn't this thing get sucker punch) and reliable recovery for defensive ones. And though its speed tier is better than the monkey's, it still is outsped by several threats like Simipour and Floatzel and the only semi-viable Pokemon that Torracat outspeeds over Monferno are Articuno and non-scarf Rotom-F. Also, Monferno has the second typing of Fighting giving it a second powerful STAB combination and allowing it to take neutral damage from rocks, something Torracat cannot do.

However, I do think there could be an interesting niche to this Pokemon when Intimidate gets released (who knows how long that'll take). Most other Intimidate users would rather use their other abilities (Arbok using Shed Skin, Luxray using Guts, and Stoutland almost always running Scrappy). Rather than using an offensive Sub+NP set or...that scarf set, I think it'd be better as a defensive set. I came up with two sets that I think could be useful at some point.
Torracat @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Def / 100 Spe OR 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt
- Flamethrower
- U-turn
This set could be a useful way to shut down a lot of defensive set up sweepers with Taunt. Will-o-Wisp help deal with physical attackers, Flamethrower is a reliable STAB without any recoil, though you could use Fire Blast for more power. U-Turn is the last move so that Torracat can be a better pivot after switching in to take a physical hit. The first EV spread outspeeds Jolly base 60s like Pawniard (though you should never swap into that obviously because of Defiant) while maximizing physical bulk. The second outspeeds neutral base 60s. There are other things you can try to speed creep the loss in bulk is substantial.

Torracat @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Careful Nature
- Bulk Up
- Leech Life
- Flare Blitz / Fire Fang
- Crunch / Shadow Claw / Frustration
This second set is possibly the closest to an offensive set as I'd like to see. Torracat can function as a decent Bulk Up user due to Intimidate in combination with Eviolite. Leech Life is Torracat's only form of recovery outside of Rest, and with the buff this gen, it's not actually that bad. Unfortunately, it doesn't add a ton to cat's coverage other than hitting Grumpig better. Flare Blitz is your obligatory STAB (ONLY use Fire Fang if you're really worried about recoil). The last move is mainly filler, though Crunch is probably your best bet in my opinion.

Overall, I think Torracat could be a usable mon because of its defensive capabilities, but unfortunately we'll have to wait until Intimidate is released. The lack of priority and reliable recovery sucks a lot, but this is PU after all. Its unpredictability also could make it difficult to play around if an offensive set is played correctly.

tl;dr While it definitely won't be a game changer, once Intimidate is released, Torracat could become a nice niche mon and be very useful on some balance teams.
 
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