NOC Small Street Game Thread - Ended- TOWN wins!

[bluedoom]

*pressure narrative

 

[DS.]

I thought hals post was irritating, so I think I have plenty of justification for that vote

I refuse to respond to anyone who thinks I was seriously pushing for hal on page 3 or that the vote was anything but RVS

talking about progression

 

[M2H]

This post was directly above the SB/Former exhange I noted in the iso which starts around here:

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threa...m-est-17th-april.3649248/page-13#post-8100454

Yeah this is pretty bad, and I have had issues with Former's mindset all day. Do you think anything besides SB asking for reads could have triggered the vote by Former?

 

[M2H]

tbh I'm down for some lurker lynch like sanjana,zol or drookez or hannah or viper gdi there's too many of them

I'd never lynch: toni,stealth,mewtwo
Don't lynch today : hal,nuxl,csyager

wtf are you smoking: former hope

How do you rate toni and stealth cleaner than nuxl?

 

[M2H]

talking about progression

Does scum act in such a brazen way?

 

[DS.]

Yeah this is pretty bad, and I have had issues with Former's mindset all day. Do you think anything besides SB asking for reads could have triggered the vote by Former?

Well SB had voted Former at that point already

 

[Former]

I can get behind a DS trying to wagon hop under pressure, I'm just unsure if his game is different this time otherwise, because he didn't throw in votes until deadline/push lynches iirc last game.

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/mayor-mafia-democracy-prevails.3648808/page-8#post-8087453https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/mayor-mafia-democracy-prevails.3648808/page-15#post-8088987I actually went backed and checked, there are these votes, how does this effect your read?

 

[DS.]

Does scum act in such a brazen way?

Its all wifom

 

[bluedoom]

nuxl I'm unsure mostly cuz he feels less proactive

toni is a meta read but i played twin trap mafia earlier and as mafia he just jumped on a wagon when he cracked under pressure, it doesn't feel like he's doing that this game so possibly a difference in alignment?

sb tbh its more that i felt good about his opening post and thought it felt less cautious, this one is more tonal really

 

[DS.]

I can get behind a DS trying to wagon hop under pressure, I'm just unsure if his game is different this time otherwise, because he didn't throw in votes until deadline/push lynches iirc last game.

I think if you look at D1 from last game, I did a similar-ish thing with claiming my role and swapping onto MewTwo (which was wrong, but still)

 

[Former]

if bluedoom is mafia, toni is town tbh

 

[DS.]

Oh look, he found it for you to prove that, yeah, im kinda just all over the place when im town

 

[DS.]

if bluedoom is mafia, toni is town tbh

Explain? Just off of a meta read?

 

[Former]

if bluedoom is mafia, #709 is clearly an attempt to fake bus

 

[Former]

not bus, but fake partner defend, w/e

 

[bluedoom]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/mayor-mafia-democracy-prevails.3648808/page-8#post-8087453https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/mayor-mafia-democracy-prevails.3648808/page-15#post-8088987I actually went backed and checked, there are these votes, how does this effect your read?

no opinion on the sultan vote because he didn't push it hard enough

that mewtwo vote was an omgus vote and looks kinda similar to his scuffle with you, ngl

 

[DS.]

vote apricity


scum team is random. If they did buy that 80 point 4th mafia thing, it'll probably become pretty obvious once one or two flip

also I don't think scum hal makes this post, but I'm voting him for the lols

I dont really get the scum team is random thing?

 

[Former]

the entire reason hal is voting for me is because he thinks I was recruited, ie not random

 

[M2H]

the entire reason hal is voting for me is because he thinks I was recruited, ie not random

And... the only reason you have been fixating on hal is because he brought that point up.

 

[DS.]

the entire reason hal is voting for me is because he thinks I was recruited, ie not random

Yeah but your follow up there doesnt make sense? you say in a subsequent post that it does seem likely they would recruit

it's partly WIFOM yes. But it's a discussion on what I think the most optimal move the mafia could have made is. Could they have made other moves, very much yeah. But on the onset, I think there's a few likely paths they took

-recruit a 4th member (seems likely)
-recruited 1/2 of the 'strong roles' (very likely)

-recruited a bunch of the middle roles (not really a huge incentive to leaving a bunch of points free as they ultimately don't do that much)

with that, I think the middle path is likely the one they took. It doesn't really do that much now, other than meaning we should never read that person as town for their role alone. But I think

 

[M2H]

Basically if scum bought a 4th member, they'd be better off choosing somebody good at mafia. That's what apricity mentioned.

 

[Former]

And... the only reason you have been fixating on hal is because he brought that point up.

not even remotely true

 

[DS.]

Like you give no real reason behind WHY you think they didnt recruit, just that you are selecting that they went the other way because it makes you not the recruited mafia, delegitimizing Hal's vote on you

 

[M2H]

so hal/ds./nuxl/former/maybe others have an above average chance of being mafia.

 

[Former]

because at that point I thought white flag mode would be publicly announced and it wasn't when dusk started the day