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NOC Small Street Game Thread - Ended- TOWN wins!

MoodyCloud said:
FH rightly identified your behavior as scummy
he started a thunderdome with you and samoyed in it
samoyed was a sr of yours and apparently still is
fh was a sr of yours
you refused a lynch order starting with samoyed (whom you thought was mafia) and ending with either of fh/ds (fh indicated a willingness to let himself get lynched provided you'd be lynched next)
that lynch order would have killed two scum in exchange for either zero or one town depending on which one of fh/you went first
you did not want that
you did not fight tooth and nail for the thunderdome of you, dstown, against scumfh or even scumsamoyed to be resolved
instead you took the chance to grab a free mislynch without giving town information which would have resulted in your lynch when your scumread fh flipped town
there is a nonzero chance that you refused this lynch order because samoyed was scum and you knew lynching that three-man pool would kill two scum including you

and that's just for day 2 before you started your deflection campaign, opposed mass claim and kept saying causing a no lynch by self targeting as governor is something a townie with two functioning brain cells would ever do

I have gone over this multiple times before already
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That's just blatantly untrue. I was on Samoyed's wagon for a good portion of the day and agreed with a Samoyed-DS-Former order because I thought that Samoyeds flip would likely change the second days order to Former-DS the only time that I actively said no to that order was when Former tried to flip it so that I would go first.

Also again, I did push over and over and over again for Former or Samoyed to be the lynch train. You manipulating the situation to make it seem like I pushed for a SB lynch is just false. It was clear that Former was likely to be modkilled for that rule violation. and no one was voting him so yeah I went to SB as did a number of other people
 
Former Hope said:
Also just to mess with you, DS. so you are fine lynching sam > you > me ?

That should net you two scum lynches yeah?
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DS. said:
It will net town two scum lynches I think. It'll net me one, but with that order I think we hit two yeah.
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Former Hope said:
Okay cool, so let's go with that order.
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DS. said:
Nah let's lynch Samoyed and then you.
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As you can see from the above diagram where x= the square root of 69 the solveable variable is that Moody is full of shit
 
Duskfall98 said:
While is possible for me to make a mistake as a host, should that happen I would be unable to confirm or deny publicly wether that has happened. While it is true that such a mistake would have a negative effect on the integrity of the game, to confirm or deny such a mistake would create a bigger problem than it solves. For this reason I have chosen not to respond to any questions based on people's role PM's.
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Good decision
 
We have enough mislynches that I think it's fine if we run into DS' bait today if it means he'll stop whining about how I'm trying to keep him for last so that I don't have to deal with the consequences of his flip
 
MoodyCloud said:
We have enough mislynches that I think it's fine if we run into DS' bait today if it means he'll stop whining about how I'm trying to keep him for last so that I don't have to deal with the consequences of his flip
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So... what you're saying is that you want to vote him now because he's annoyed you?
 
MoodyCloud said:
in a world of 4p no white flag scum has 85 (or 86 with fruit vendor) points
-80 recruit
5/6 left for roles, 15/16 if they use bulletproof once to repay their debt which they probably will

We know they did not buy governor (-10), vengeful vig (-25) or follower (-3, worse than a cop which costs 2), and can infer they probably did not buy roles more expensive than 5 credits since they did not buy the vig nor the governor

Assuming they found vooper via a rolecop (-2) or a tracker (-4/5), with vooper having died n2, meaning he could only have been found via roles during n1, which could exclude even-night tracker. Assuming no one has received hook results, they probably did not buy roleblock actions.

if we believe that to be the case, and that they did not purposefully waste most of their role budget just to make this harder to solve through mass claim, we'd get something like this ?

if they used 5/6 credits total and did not go into debt :
0 cost role
0 / +1 role
-5 backup since we know DS is scum
0 role
leaving 1 point to encrypt at most, and nothing to catch vooper with (maybe they just caught him in thread but that's not the most likely scenario)

if they used 15/16 credits and went to -10 total :
0
-5 backup
-5 odd night tracker
0 to -2 cost role
-1 to -4 for encryption ?
-2 for a rolecop ?

or with more power roles, still going to -10
0/+1 role
-5 backup
-5 odd night tracker
-5 faith healer / -4 even night tracker

leaving 1 to 3 points with which to encrypt or rolecop, and requiring one use of bulletproofing later on

or going to -20 debt, 25/26 credits
-5 backup
-4 odd night tracker
-5 even night tracker
-5 faith healer

leaving 6 with which to rolecop twice and encrypt once (or the reverse), but makes you wonder why they did not buy governor ? (arguably it's a scummy role to claim ?)


now in a world where DS can be town, ie he was bulletproofed last night for 10 points and mafia did not buy the backup :
15/16 credits, -10 debt

0/+1 role
-4 odd night tracker
-5 faith healer
-5 even night tracker ?

1 to 2 credits left
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MoodyCloud said:
worlds where double voter can be scum here :

-45 doublevoter
-5 odd night tracker
-5 backup

bunch of leftover points with which to spam rolecops and hooks, unlikely because no hook results to be seen ?



4p white flag doublevoter :
25/26 points from white flag giving +20
-45 doublevoter
-5 backup
0 vanilla
? some last role, irrelevant because white flag

they end up 30 into debt and need to use bulletproof 3 times, not impossible tho
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  • Samoyed: Fruit Vendor (+1) (targeted ds and hal)
  • CS: Public Vanilla: (0)
  • Drookez: Priest (0)
  • Apricity: 1-Shot Gladiator (0)
  • Hannah: Delayed Voyeur (-2) (targeted nuxl and ?)
  • xnadrojx: Even-Night Tracker (-4)
  • nuxl: Odd-Night Tracker (-5)
  • DS: Universal Backup (-5)
  • Mewtwo: Non-consecutive Night Commuter (-5)
  • Tonithetourguide: Modified Faith Healer (-5)
  • Moody: Restless Spirit (-35)
  • Jalmont: Doublevoter (-45)
No claims from: Nuxl
Last to claim : DS., Nuxl, Jordan, Sanjana, Toni
dodged claiming : xnadrojx, DS, jalmont
 
MoodyCloud said:
remember the bit where your top sr was samoyed and you didnt give a fuck about getting it lynched at eod
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Former/Samoyed were p much interchangeable for me yesterday and were you actually participating in the discussion yesterday you would have known that.

I stopped pushing Samoyed because Mewtwo joined Former in swapping the train to me and so I pushed back at former
 
MoodyCloud, The reason I did not comment on your analyses, or 'ignored' them, is because
1.) Most of them are way above my head, and would take too much time to figure out what you are talking about for it to be worth it during finals week, and
2.) Most of them assume that I am mafia, meaning I can not go along with them. If I'm town then I know they are wrong, and if I'm mafia then I don't want to go along with them.
It was extremely blind of you to call me out on 'ignoring' your analyses when it was impossible for me to acknowledge them in a helpful way.
 
MewtwoHidden said:
I refuse to vote for anybody except Samoyed today
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All of us today have expressed some suspicion in nuxl. MewtwoHidden, DS., JALMONT, hannahh, and I think Moodycloud too (Although hannahh said she townread nuxl, she also had suspicions toward him). Therefore, It's probably best we all vote nuxl, since we can all agree on him. However, I can get on board the samoyed train as well, but I'm not as confident in him being mafia as I am nuxl. Would you consider switching to a vote on nuxl today?
 
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