NOC Small Street Game Thread - Ended- TOWN wins!

[DS.]

Okay. Assuming Nuxl/Samoyed as a scum team, who are some other likely partners?

Moody has been actively defending Samoyed for one

 

[DS.]

apricity have you read the game or no?

 

[DS.]

Like, can you give us a reads list?

 

[apricity]

Hey jal I know I’m in POE this game and I’ve had a shit time trying to keep up in a new time zone where everything happens at like 4am my time

I think mewtwo/moody/you is a good place to start and I would probably add viper to that list as well

I’m kind of current so I can talk but not very intelligently about the game

 

[apricity]

Ah ok

So when does today end in DS not getting lynched?

 

[jalmont]

you don’t really need to talk intelligently I have no idea what happened and that’s not going to change so I’m just working with thinking about the claims.

If u think u can use ur game knowledge to advance that by all means please do so but otherwise I’m primarily interested in thinking about that

 

[apricity]

Let me find the claims again and I’ll give you my thoughts on how we can clear people

 

[apricity]

• Samoyed: Fruit Vendor (+1) (targeted ds and hal)
• CS: Public Vanilla: (0)
• Drookez: Priest (0)
• Apricity: 1-Shot Gladiator (0)
• Hannah: Delayed Voyeur (-2) (targeted nuxl and ?)
• xnadrojx: Even-Night Tracker (-4)
• nuxl: Odd-Night Tracker (-5)
• DS: Universal Backup (-5)
• Mewtwo: Non-consecutive Night Commuter (-5)
• Tonithetourguide: Modified Faith Healer (-5)
• Moody: Restless Spirit (-35)
• Jalmont: Doublevoter (-45)

No claims from: Nuxl
Last to claim : DS., Nuxl, Jordan, Sanjana, Toni
dodged claiming : xnadrojx, DS, jalmont

 

[M2H]

Ah ok

So when does today end in DS not getting lynched?

I would generally say Samoyed is a better target--partially because scum!DS. could have governored themself today, and partially because scum!Samoyed is safer regardless of DS.'s alignment imo.

 

[apricity]

I also had to read up about debt, you’re saying that theyre net negative right now and plan to gift bulletproofs over the course of the game?

 

[apricity]

I would generally say Samoyed is a better target--partially because scum!DS. could have governored themself today, and partially because scum!Samoyed is safer regardless of DS.'s alignment imo.

Does scum DS give himself governor and does scum DS swap claims with another mafia buddy knowing that his flip implicates the person whose role they stole?

 

[Hannahh]

Aren't there a ton of things that could go awry with a DS lynch? The potential BPV, the potential self govern. I think a nolynch (is that what happens if we lynch DS and something happens?) is our wcs right now?

 

[Hannahh]

Does scum DS give himself governor and does scum DS swap claims with another mafia buddy knowing that his flip implicates the person whose role they stole?

Feels like the dumbest thing in the world. While I would absolutely do this not thinking, I don't think any sane scumteam would let this happen.

 

[apricity]

Aren't there a ton of things that could go awry with a DS lynch? The potential BPV, the potential self govern. I think a nolynch (is that what happens if we lynch DS and something happens?) is our wcs right now?

No

 

[M2H]

Does scum DS give himself governor and does scum DS swap claims with another mafia buddy knowing that his flip implicates the person whose role they stole?

I don't think that would be a good plan for scum!DS., no. It would give town a two for one deal.

If DS is universal backup--he would get night gov automatically because thats the first PR that died that the backup could copy.

 

[M2H]

Aren't there a ton of things that could go awry with a DS lynch? The potential BPV, the potential self govern. I think a nolynch (is that what happens if we lynch DS and something happens?) is our wcs right now?

worst case scenario is we lynch DS. today and he's town. Second worst case scenario is we no lynch him today, and then we lynch him tomorrow bc at that point he's scum for lying.

 

[apricity]

I don't think that would be a good plan for scum!DS., no. It would give town a two for one deal.

If DS is universal backup--he would get night gov automatically because thats the first PR that died that the backup could copy.

Ah I missed this. Ok

 

[apricity]

We could lynch eli maybe?

 

[apricity]

Let me go back to see what Texas said

 

[apricity]

I don't like the Samoyed wagon and I'm indifferent to the bluedoom wagon

I still want to lynch csyager

I'm interested in pursuing hannah

He wants to PURSUE Hannah

 

[apricity]

The more I think about it the more I think we lynch DS now and run the risk of him using night gov. Because if we don’t and he pops his power for next night that’s an extra day, and his flip is just plain necessary this game.

 

[jalmont]

it's feasible the mafia are in debt rn but you'd think they would prefer to avoid debt and leave some points leftover for hooks/day talk because having to give a townie a bpv in a critical near end game situation would be game losing.

did nuxl play well last game? who won mvp. i'm trying to figure out a relatively non-smogon experience scumteam would recruit their fourth and my guess is that playing well in the last game would inform that.

 

[M2H]

We could lynch eli maybe?

yeah his role has high scum equity (scum would have to find vooper n1 with rolecop or track) and his response to the samo -> ds. -> former lynch train was bad. At first he suggested doing ds. -> former before deciding to abandon it altogether and lynch sb (easy mislynch bc of horrible d1).

imo nuxl/samo have high scum equity as a team--I think DS. in comparison is a coinflip.

 

[M2H]

how do the mafia ever get in debt unless jalmont or moody are mafia btw?

 

[M2H]

given the assumption that jalmont and DS. are not both lying--mafia must be in debt, or feel some pressure to get more points. The only way mafia are in debt rn is if;

1. 4p no white flag with cheap roles.
2. 4p white flag with an expensive role.