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CAP 2 Smogon "Create a Pokemon" Part Deux: Poll 3
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Maybe I should rephrase what I was thinking.
If it's offensive or balanced, either way, it's defenses don't need to be that high, maybe 70-80 for offensive or 80-90 for balanced. I'm not saying that both defenses have to be 90 for balanced, you could give it a cripplingly low special defense and call it a weakness. I don't want it to be too fast, especially if it's balanced. Gardevoir's 80 base speed seems to be a good upper bound for speed, nothing more than 85-90. If I had to randomly pick the speed I'd like to see it would be in the 70s. I don't want this to be broken in the least, which is why I said I thought that keeping the defenses down was a good idea.
If it's offensive or balanced, either way, it's defenses don't need to be that high, maybe 70-80 for offensive or 80-90 for balanced. I'm not saying that both defenses have to be 90 for balanced, you could give it a cripplingly low special defense and call it a weakness. I don't want it to be too fast, especially if it's balanced. Gardevoir's 80 base speed seems to be a good upper bound for speed, nothing more than 85-90. If I had to randomly pick the speed I'd like to see it would be in the 70s. I don't want this to be broken in the least, which is why I said I thought that keeping the defenses down was a good idea.
I thought the whole reason everyone wanted this was it's defensive typing? =/
Eh. Defensive
Eh. Defensive
I have to agree. Anything over 80 and people are tempted to whack a choice Scarf on this and say Pogeyman go! While ignoring all the other, more artistic options available to it.
woo yeah lets make it offensive just like salamence,to go along with the SR resistance,2 immunities,2 very good physical stab types and generally great typing.
The last pokemon was borderline broken lets get it right this time.
If this pokemon has more then base 105 attack considering the insane movepool you lot will no doubt give it, its a fucking joke.
The last pokemon was borderline broken lets get it right this time.
If this pokemon has more then base 105 attack considering the insane movepool you lot will no doubt give it, its a fucking joke.
Balance
Balanced. Reason: Ghost is an awsome Special type and Fighting is a great Physical. When combined that makes a strong Pokemon. I say lean more towards the Physical side for a few reasons:
1). Would not be as broken as Special. Ghost Physical moves are somewhat limited Shadow Claw/Punch/Sneak. Not so strong.
2). Fightings only Special are Aura Sphere and Focus blast. But I find Blast a tad inaccurate.
3). Physical, to me is a little easier to work with in terms of movesets.
4). Fighting is, like most people say, defensive. So making this a bulky sweeper is ideal to me.
But, yeah a mixed is awsome!
1). Would not be as broken as Special. Ghost Physical moves are somewhat limited Shadow Claw/Punch/Sneak. Not so strong.
2). Fightings only Special are Aura Sphere and Focus blast. But I find Blast a tad inaccurate.
3). Physical, to me is a little easier to work with in terms of movesets.
4). Fighting is, like most people say, defensive. So making this a bulky sweeper is ideal to me.
But, yeah a mixed is awsome!
Thank you sir for your obviously helpful insight on this matter. We are without a doubt enlightened by your words of wisdom.
Thank you for not actually reading. Physical/Special orientation is next. This is offense/defense orientation.
OMG, I need a better understand of what made those pokemon in the Balanced section so well....balanced? Swampert Hippo, and a few other pokemon there threw me off.
I believe it's that they can function both offensively and defensively. That's what I'm getting from it. Oh, and voting BALANCED...
I'm going with Balanced.
We already have a defensive ghost that can use fighting and ghost moves. Its name is Dusknoir, and it is everywhere.
Balanced pokemon as a general rule are less useful than specialized ones, however, given a decent stat distribution, which we almost invariably will have, they can serve multiple purposes. I'd envision this as being able to use Vacuum Wave or Shadow Sneak on certain sets, and effectively utilize Shadow Claw/Cross Chop or Shadow Ball/Aura Sphere.
It could even mix and match with something like Shadow Ball and Subpunch, with Subpunch making up for no EV's with sheer STAB power. Ghost/Fighting certainly has enough resists and immunities to pull it off. Moreover, if we make it Balanced and want it to do anything decently, Speed is usually the first victim, and that helps a Subpunch set (ask Hariyama).
We already have a defensive ghost that can use fighting and ghost moves. Its name is Dusknoir, and it is everywhere.
Balanced pokemon as a general rule are less useful than specialized ones, however, given a decent stat distribution, which we almost invariably will have, they can serve multiple purposes. I'd envision this as being able to use Vacuum Wave or Shadow Sneak on certain sets, and effectively utilize Shadow Claw/Cross Chop or Shadow Ball/Aura Sphere.
It could even mix and match with something like Shadow Ball and Subpunch, with Subpunch making up for no EV's with sheer STAB power. Ghost/Fighting certainly has enough resists and immunities to pull it off. Moreover, if we make it Balanced and want it to do anything decently, Speed is usually the first victim, and that helps a Subpunch set (ask Hariyama).
Okay, originally thought the term "Balanced" when referring to a pokemon's role meant it had even stats like Celebi or Kingdra.
Deleted my perivous two post to clear up my vote and my votes is Balanced but leaning toward offensive(Bulky)
Bull of Heaven
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Balanced
If it's too offensive, there will be no end to the debates about it being "broken". If it's too defensive, we will have wasted excellent offensive typing.
Also, I'm hoping it will be physical.
If it's too offensive, there will be no end to the debates about it being "broken". If it's too defensive, we will have wasted excellent offensive typing.
Also, I'm hoping it will be physical.
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