DO NOT CLAIM TO VON. ANY OF YOU.
(I'm gonna cut out the neutral crap, we all know that I'm chill games. Or like 2 of you who I've talked to via irc do. Oh well)
If you are a chill game and you believe that von is your leader, you're wrong. This is why:
If Archen is telling the truth, and he really has no reason to lie, von made him silence LN. 3 people know LN's alias in this game. Who? Von, LN and Archen. 2 of these are NOC silencers according to their claims, and LN doesn't really count. Apparently, von told Archen to target LN's alias. That's really fair enough for von. However one thing does bug me... LN can still reveal von's results in-thread. Why has he not?
Von and LN are scumbuddies. Probably. There are three ways this can go:
Von and LN are Failure Games (I've talked to Yeti, von is not a Not Mafia Game). This is probably the most likely because LN is von's "trusted ally" and also like I said earlier LN has still deigned to post his "results". It was probably just a plan that LN and von had where LN would misunderstand his silencing or something.
Von is SANDS, LN is chill. This could work. Nobody has really protected von leading me to believe that von has few scumbuddies. SANDS appears to be the smallest team. Von could also be Failure Games here but someone would protect him... which is why I'm thinking LN is his scumbuddy. Until LN posts we don't know which one it is. One thing's for certain though, SANDS will want every other faction in the game dead. Pretty sure this is just Game Theory right?
Von and LN are both chill. Von's not playing very well.
Basically there is one thing which makes me believe the latter option: If von was moling, he would be more careful. According to him, though, he has had several claims. Over 10, actually. Does he need to mole much more? Probably not. He has aliases. Furthermore from talking to him he knew a lot about mafia setup. How their kills work (once every 2 nights according to him) and all of that nice stuff.
More evidence: I have a colleague who has access to the chill sheet. Von has claimed to several users to have 10+ claims, however the sheet only had 8 claims (including Von) on it at the time. Von is harbouring information on another sheet.
Why am I going public about this? Well I'm going to
actually lead the chill games this time. Originally I didn't want to, but after talking with The-Me (who is like 99% chill) I noticed something in my role PM which seems to make it more of a leading role. Observe:
Mafia Site said:
Dear <snip>,
You are Handicapable.
You were a mafia involving multiple win conditions and abilities that worked beyond death. The 3rd Floor Patients, Paperblade, Quagsires, and danmantincan won.
Every Even Night you may PM Acklow and Da Letter El, “Night X - Like <USER1>, <USER2>, and <USER3> while killing <USER4>.” You will kill the targeted USER. You may not, however, kill any USERS you liked during the game.
You are allied with the Pretty Chill Games. You win if the Pretty Chill Games eliminate the Old Games, Failure Games, and Not Mafia Games.
(Yes I did cut my alias out... I'm learning ^_^)
I know that vig is an awful role to lead with normally, however look closer. I need 3 aliases who are confirmed allies every 2 nights. Most leaders will not want to give me a steady stream of aliases, so I've decided the only way I can use this role successfully is to gather them myself. Now, this game has around 38 players iirc. This means that if I do 3 "likes" a night I probably have about 4 kills this game. I am going to be preserving of this. Now, if I can set up a steady alliance with another faction, which I want to do, I can start liking them as well. For now, though, I'm going to try leading this village.
Hopefully I've put forward enough evidence to disprove von's alignment with us chill guys. If you're sceptical about my claiming neutral earlier, von can confirm it was just a ploy, don't worry. Actually maybe Von won't want to confirm it now that I'm trying to usurp him. Oh well. Basically you don't have to claim to me if you don't want to, but it will be helpful if you do and
please don't claim to von!