Smogon Snake Draft I - Phase 1

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On... Sportsmanship

Note the sportsmanship infraction may be used liberally this Snake Draft, and any unsportsmanlike conduct on the forums, on Discord, any of the semiofficial tier channels, or in opposing Snake team channels (I won't infract for you being a dick in your own team channel unless the situation is so extreme I feel I absolutely have to make an exception (consider basically any masterclass interaction ever)), will be grounds for an infraction. We encourage you to play semi-aggressively, but don't be a masterclass.

~ Aldaron

On... Scheduling Matches

I'm sure plenty of you have come across coin flipping / who to activity drama while scheduling matches. I'm here to reduce the arbitrary element associated with some of these decisions. It is entirely your decision to adhere to these STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS, but note that if you choose not to, I'll most likely ignore any pleading from your end and default you to a coin flip, regardless of what you claim is your irc, discord or forum activity. By signing up for this tournament, you are agreeing to this condition, that adhering to what I outline will protect you from coinflips / activity and that not adhering to it will subject you to coinflips / activity regardless of your proposed justification.
YOU MUST ACTIVATE YOUR VM WALL IF YOU WISH TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNAMENT. THIS IS HOW ALL OFFICIAL SCHEDULING WILL BE HANDLED.

Once that round's thread is posted, you have up to 48 hours to contact your opponent ON HIS VM WALL and mention your timezone and exactly what dates, what time ranges you are available, and where you will battle. Note that the default accepted sim and server is the official server on Showdown. You must provide at least 3 different time ranges at least 48 hours from the timestamp of your message, with at least 2 that are 24-hours apart from each other. The minimum and maximum length for 1 time range is 30 minutes, and the minimum difference between the 3 required time ranges is 3 hours. If you give 3 time ranges that stick with this policy, you can give any additional time ranges at any time you please.

NOTE THAT THIS SCENARIO INVOLVES RESPONSE DYNAMICS; THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WILL CONTACT FIRST AND SOMEONE WHO RESPOND...THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT FOR BOTH OF YOU TO ASSUME TO YOU CAN BE FIRST CONTACTS...WHOEVER CONTACTS FIRST IS THE FIRST, AND THE OTHER DEFAULTS TO THE RESPONDER. THIS SHOULD BE OBVIOUS BUT SOME OF YOU ARE DUMB.

Once your opponent has contacted you, you now have up until 72 hours after the round's thread has been posted (NOT after your opponent's message) to respond with times that are good for you. What this means is that if both of you spend the maximum time contacting and responding, you should have back and forth collaboration at a maximum of 72 hours after the round has been posted, with both parties given an additional 24 hours to prepare for the battle should it be scheduled as soon as required. If none of the opponent's proposed time ranges are good for you, you must respond with alternative time ranges.

The first opponent now has X hours to prepare for the battle (if the second opponent agreed to some time) or 24 hours to contact a TD if, for whatever reason, this second set of time ranges does not suit the first opponent. Note this should be an absolute last measure and that more often than not, the TDs will likely force one (or both) sides to sub out.

Once a time is agreed upon, please make a message on your opponent's vm wall between 10 minutes and 1 second before the agreed upon time and say you are ready to battle and then get to agreed upon location (regardless of whether or not your opponent sends you a response vm). Please protect yourself by making this message, as it makes decisions much easier. You will be required to be wait for your opponent for the duration of the time range.

If neither of you contact each other before 48 hours after the thread has been posted, you're both opening yourself up to a potential coin flip. If I look at the situation, I might just determine I'm going to sub both of you out, coin flip you, or whatever based on however I'm feeling at that moment. Don't leave yourself and your team vulnerable to this.

Just because at anytime one of the responders does not respond within the given range does not give you automatic activity win credentials. If they don't contact at all on your vm wall up until 48 hours before the end of the round (note, I'm not going to take irc or sim messages as evidence due to how easily they can be doctored...so if you want to protect yourself, stick to the vm messages), then you obviously have activity win justification. Note to team captains, if one of your players does not contact all his opponents before 48 hours before the end of the round, I will FORCE a sub, no questions asked. You WILL contact your opponent in a timely manner. However, if they do contact you at all after the suggested response time and before 48 hours before the end of the round, you are required to respond before 24 hours before the end of the round with 2 1-hour time ranges at least 1 hour apart before the end of the round. The opponent, since he did not stick to the proposed response schedule, WILL BE REQUIRED TO PLAY AT ONE OF YOUR NEWLY SUGGESTED TIMES, so you have the advantage here. This obviously puts a bit of an emphasis on the last 48 hours of each round (as is standard operating procedure for most of our official team tournaments anyway), so I will try my best to keep the last 48 hours of the round as close to the majority of the weekend for as much of the world as I can.

If you follow all of these guidelines, you will a.) most likely get your match done with minimal issue or b.) protect yourself and your team from an undue coin flip or activity decision. Yes, I hate activity decisions in official tournaments. Yes, I will do my best to prevent activity decisions in the playoffs (the qualifying round is fair game however and I will have no problem issuing an activity call here), but don't push your luck.

Here is an example of how following this would work:

Round 1 thread is posted June 7, 2015 at 10:00PM. Its deadline is June 14, 2015 at 11:59PM. User A and User B are matched up. User A contacts User B on his vm wall on June 9, at 9:00 PM (47 hours after the thread was posted, so ok), and gives 4 time ranges: June 10, from 7:00-7:30 PM (22 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is only ok so long as at minimum 3 of the other proposed time ranges adhere to the requirements), June 11, from 9:00-9:30 PM (48 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is ok), June 12, from 6:00-6:30 PM (69 hours after timestamp of his message, so ok, but only 21 hours after the earliest time range that is 48 hours after the timestamp), and June 12, from 9:00-9:30 PM (72 hours after the timestamp, so ok, and 24 hours after a legal time range and 3 hours after another legal time range). The June 11 and both June 12 time ranges satisfy the requirements, so User A can propose his first June 10 time range as well. User B responds on June 10, at 8:00 PM (23 hours after User A contacted him, so ok), and picks June 11, at 9:00 PM to battle, which is ok because it is 24 hours after his own response.

You'll note I made most of my response ranges multiples of 24 hours, but also included 24 hours. This means I expect you to be able to check Smogon at least once a day. If that is not feasible, you put yourself at risk.

~ Aldaron

On... Disconnecting and timing out drama

Ah, the big beefcake. I'm going to go ahead and put this out there: we reserve the right to judge any individual match on a case by case basis, regardless of assumed precedence set. If you don't like that, you are welcome to not play. Be aware of this.

Also, to protect yourself as much as possible from DCs and timer issues, play on Showdown (because it has an at least semi reliable system of rejoining after a DC) and make a gentleman's agreement to not hit timer and not be hour a move dicks.

That said, here is the main way we will probably handle DCs / timing out:

To handle all DC cases...you're gonna submit your teams before the match. TeamSubmissions is an account made for the purpose of submitting teams to it. You don't have to submit, but if you do, you protect yourself from the opponent taking a win. If you do DC (and you can't rejoin the battle) and you haven't submitted your team, your opponent will have the right to take the win. Yes, I'll most likely make a judgment call if he is on his last turn with 1 pokemon at 5% and paralyzed and with you at 6 100% health pokemon, because the only way to lose this is to misclick multiple times. However, if you're at 6 100% pokemon and your opponent is at last pokemon 10% needing to crit flinch you 6 - 12 times for the win, I'll give him the win if you DC and haven't submitted your team.

I know people like philip7086 will beg me "to use common sense for a judgment call" for all cases and I would normally agree, but I am giving you all a 100% out by allowing you to submit your team. Basically, submit your team, and protect yourself and your team from any and all DCs. It's a simple procedure that removes almost all subjectivity from a decision regarding a DC. Unlike with the scheduling restrictions, all you have to do is submit the team your are using at anytime before the match takes place, and you'll have 100% protected yourself. Read this rule and understand this now before you join the tournament. Since I'm stating this now, I'm basically going to ignore you if you DC, didn't submit a team, and "had a guaranteed win." Expect it. Also note that I'm going to let the PLAYER (not the team), decide whether he is going to take the win or go another route (replay same moves, replay different teams, etc.).

To further ensure no funny business, if, in the case of a DC replay, there is any concern from either party about funny business, both parties have the right to request a screenshot of the current Pokemon's stats in battle. This is irrelevant for Showdown as you can simply rejoin a battle there, but PO allows you to see the currently out Pokemon's stats if you scroll over it with your mouse. Just hit PrntScrn (windows) while scrolling over it if requested by your opponent, preferably with proof that it is a screenshot of that actual battle (consider including the opponent's request in the battle screen in the screenshot).

Regarding time outs, they are a bit more complex, specifically because some timeouts are due to DCs. The best we can do for this scenario is say that there is some number between 1 minute and 2 minutes (which we will not publicize) that we will set as a limit for timing out, and if you timeout with more than that limit time remaining, we'll assume it is a DC, whereas the opposite is a true timeout. A true timeout defaults to a loss, while the DC timeout is prone to the DC rules (did you submit or not).

~ Aldaron




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Pacifidlog Pitvipers (7) vs. Lanakila Nagas (3)

SM OU: -Snow vs. FlamingVictini
SM OU: Star vs. SoulWind
SM OU: Axel vs. Alexander
SM OU: BlackOblivion vs. Zamrock
SM Doubles: Level 51 vs. miltankmilk
SM Ubers: Lacus Clyne vs. Mazar
SM UU: teal6 vs. Sacri'
SM RU: Ajna vs. Meru
SM NU: meeps vs. Kushalos
SM LC: Shrug vs. tko


Pacifidlog Pitvipers (6) vs. Berry Forest Bushmasters (4)

SM OU: -Snow vs. Cdumas
SM OU: Star vs. Omfuga
SM OU: Axel vs. ABR
SM OU: BlackOblivion vs. Ban Manaphy
SM Doubles: Level 51 vs. marilli
SM Ubers: Lacus Clyne vs. The Trap God
SM UU: teal6 vs. bugzinator
SM RU: Ajna vs. Natalie.
SM NU: meeps vs. Yui.
SM LC: Shrug vs. Sken


Pacifidlog Pitvipers (6) vs. Goldenrod Gliders (4)

SM OU: -Snow vs. z0mOG
SM OU: Star vs. psychicmewtwo
SM OU: Axel vs. Welli0u
SM OU: BlackOblivion vs. Tricking
SM Doubles: Level 51 vs. MajorBowman
SM Ubers: Lacus Clyne vs. Arii Stella
SM UU: teal6 vs. Pearl
SM RU: Ajna vs. SilentVerse
SM NU: meeps vs. Blast
SM LC: Shrug vs. ggggd


Lanakila Nagas (5) vs. Shinto Ruin Serpents (5)

SM OU: FlamingVictini vs. Leftiez
SM OU: SoulWind vs. Kickasser
SM OU: Alexander vs. TheThorn
SM OU: Zamrock vs. Sabella
SM Doubles: miltankmilk vs. Demantoid
SM Ubers: Mazar vs. M Dragon
SM UU: Sacri' vs. Lycans
SM RU: Meru vs. Soulgazer
SM NU: Kushalos vs. Lax
SM LC: tko vs. Heysup


Lanakila Nagas (4) vs. Victory Road Rattlers (6)

SM OU: FlamingVictini vs. Level 56
SM OU: SoulWind vs. reyscarface
SM OU: Alexander vs. John
SM OU: Zamrock vs. Bro Kappa
SM Doubles: miltankmilk vs. Stax
SM Ubers: Mazar vs. Fireburn
SM UU: Sacri' vs. Manipulative
SM RU: Meru vs. Chill Shadow
SM NU: Kushalos vs. Rodriblutar
SM LC: tko vs. GOAO


Berry Forest Bushmasters (6) vs. Ambrette Astrotias (4)

SM OU: Cdumas vs. Nedor
SM OU: Omfuga vs. Sweepage
SM OU: ABR vs. imsosorrylol
SM OU: Ban Manaphy vs. Trosko
SM Doubles: marilli vs. Memoric
SM Ubers: The Trap God vs. Thimo
SM UU: bugzinator vs. McMeghan
SM RU: Natalie. vs. Mael
SM NU: Yui. vs. Jayde
SM LC: Sken vs. OP


Berry Forest Bushmasters (9) vs. Victory Road Rattlers (1)

SM OU: Cdumas vs. Level 56
SM OU: Omfuga vs. reyscarface
SM OU: ABR vs. John
SM OU: Ban Manaphy vs. Bro Kappa
SM Doubles: marilli vs. Stax
SM Ubers: The Trap God vs. Fireburn
SM UU: bugzinator vs. Manipulative
SM RU: Natalie. vs. Chill Shadow
SM NU: Yui. vs. Rodriblutar
SM LC: Sken vs. GOAO


Terminus Taipans (5) vs. Ambrette Astrotias (5)

SM OU: njnp vs. Nedor
SM OU: p2 vs. Sweepage
SM OU: iloveleague vs. imsosorrylol
SM OU: Gondra vs. Trosko
SM Doubles: Biosci vs. Memoric
SM Ubers: Pohjis vs. Thimo
SM UU: Tesung vs. McMeghan
SM RU: -Tsunami- vs. Mael
SM NU: Eternally vs. Jayde
SM LC: ZoroDark vs. OP


Terminus Taipans (5) vs. Sootopolis Sidewinders (5)

SM OU: njnp vs. Posho
SM OU: p2 vs. Ojama
SM OU: iloveleague vs. Analytic
SM OU: Gondra vs. ez
SM Doubles: Biosci vs. Kaori
SM Ubers: Pohjis vs. Evuelf
SM UU: Tesung vs. Pak
SM RU: -Tsunami- vs. col49
SM NU: Eternally vs. Hootie
SM LC: ZoroDark vs. Kingler12345


Terminus Taipans (4) vs. Victory Road Rattlers (6)

SM OU: njnp vs. Level 56
SM OU: p2 vs. Bushtush
SM OU: iloveleague vs. John
SM OU: Gondra vs. Bro Kappa
SM Doubles: Biosci vs. Stax
SM Ubers: Pohjis vs. Fireburn
SM UU: Tesung vs. Manipulative
SM RU: -Tsunami- vs. Chill Shadow
SM NU: Eternally vs. Rodriblutar
SM LC: ZoroDark vs. GOAO


Goldenrod Gliders (6) vs. Lake of Rage Leviathans (4)

SM OU: z0mOG vs. Eo Ut Mortus
SM OU: psychicmewtwo vs. Tamahome
SM OU: Welli0u vs. Finchinator
SM OU: Tricking vs. Malekith
SM Doubles: MajorBowman vs. Jhon
SM Ubers: Arii Stella vs. Dice
SM UU: Pearl vs. HT
SM RU: SilentVerse vs. Lord Esche
SM NU: Blast vs. FLCL
SM LC: ggggd vs. Dundies


Goldenrod Gliders (3) vs. Shinto Ruin Serpents (7)

SM OU: z0mOG vs. Leftiez
SM OU: psychicmewtwo vs. Kickasser
SM OU: Welli0u vs. TheThorn
SM OU: Tricking vs. Sabella
SM Doubles: MajorBowman vs. Demantoid
SM Ubers: Arii Stella vs. M Dragon
SM UU: Pearl vs. Lycans
SM RU: SilentVerse vs. Soulgazer
SM NU: Blast vs. Lax
SM LC: ggggd vs. Heysup


Ambrette Astrotias (6) vs. Sootopolis Sidewinders (4)

SM OU: Nedor vs. Posho
SM OU: Sweepage vs. Ojama
SM OU: imsosorrylol vs. blunder
SM OU: Trosko vs. ez
SM Doubles: Memoric vs. Kaori
SM Ubers: Thimo vs. Evuelf
SM UU: McMeghan vs. Pak
SM RU: Mael vs. col49
SM NU: Jayde vs. Hootie
SM LC: OP vs. Kingler12345


Lake of Rage Leviathans (4) vs. Shinto Ruin Serpents (6)

SM OU: Eo Ut Mortus vs. Leftiez
SM OU: Tamahome vs. Kickasser
SM OU: Finchinator vs. TheThorn
SM OU: Malekith vs. Sabella
SM Doubles: Jhon vs. Demantoid
SM Ubers: Dice vs. M Dragon
SM UU: HT vs. Lycans
SM RU: Lord Esche vs. Soulgazer
SM NU: FLCL vs. Lax
SM LC: Dundies vs. Heysup


Lake of Rage Leviathans (6) vs. Sootopolis Sidewinders (4)

SM OU: Eo Ut Mortus vs. Posho
SM OU: Tamahome vs. Ojama
SM OU: Finchinator vs. blunder
SM OU: Malekith vs. ez
SM Doubles: Jhon vs. Kaori
SM Ubers: Dice vs. Evuelf
SM UU: HT vs. Pak
SM RU: Lord Esche vs. col49
SM NU: FLCL vs. Hootie
SM LC: Dundies vs. Kingler12345

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Deadline is Sunday, September 24th, at 11:59 PM EDT.

If I made a mistake with any matchups or names, please contact Isa or me.

149/150 matches completed.
 
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teal6

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teal-Today at 4:03 PM
Hello to my handsome and kind managers, Poek and ict. Love you both! I would also like to request to play "LC" or "Little Cup" as its otherwise known in this phase. Thanks and farewell.

Poek-Today at 4:03 PM
Si, mi amigo. Tu will "jugar" LC in the first round.

ict-Today at 4:03 PM
Heil teal6, yes you will be playing LC, you have my word.


"Snake" managers indeed. smh
 
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Drew

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teal-Today at 4:03 PM
Hello to my handsome and kind managers, Poek and ict. Love you both! I would also like to request to play "LC" or "Little Cup" as its otherwise known in this phase. Thanks and farewell.

Poek-Today at 4:03 PM
Si, mi amigo. Tu will "jugar" LC in the first round.

Poek-Today at 4:03 PM
Heil teal6, yes you will be playing LC, you have my word.


"Snake" managers indeed. smh
 
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teal-Today at 4:03 PM
Hello to my handsome and kind managers, Poek and ict. Love you both! I would also like to request to play "LC" or "Little Cup" as its otherwise known in this phase. Thanks and farewell.

Poek-Today at 4:03 PM
Si, mi amigo. Tu will "jugar" LC in the first round.

Poek-Today at 4:03 PM
Heil teal6, yes you will be playing LC, you have my word.


"Snake" managers indeed. smh
i wonder why everyone thinks spaniards say mi amigo so casually and in that context you have to say amigo mío step up ur spanish teal pendejo
 

dream

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Phase 1 - Ubers:

SM Ubers: Lacus Clyne vs. Mazar
SM Ubers: Lacus Clyne vs. The Trap God
SM Ubers: Lacus Clyne vs. Arii Stella
SM Ubers: Mazar vs. M Dragon
SM Ubers: Mazar vs. Fireburn
SM Ubers: The Trap God vs. Thimo
SM Ubers: The Trap God vs. Fireburn
SM Ubers: Pohjis vs. Thimo
SM Ubers: Pohjis vs. Evuelf
SM Ubers: Pohjis vs. Fireburn
SM Ubers: Arii Stella vs. Dice
SM Ubers: Arii Stella vs. M Dragon
SM Ubers: Thimo vs. Evuelf
SM Ubers: Dice vs. M Dragon
SM Ubers: Dice vs. Evuelf
 

Mizuhime

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SM Doubles: Level 51 vs. miltankmilk
SM Doubles: Level 51 vs. marilli
SM Doubles: Level 51 vs. MajorBowman
SM Doubles: miltankmilk vs. Demantoid
SM Doubles: miltankmilk vs. Stax
SM Doubles: marilli vs. Memoric
SM Doubles: marilli vs. Stax
SM Doubles: Biosci vs. Memoric
SM Doubles: Biosci vs. Kaori
SM Doubles: Biosci vs. Stax
SM Doubles: MajorBowman vs. Jhon - highlight of the round
SM Doubles: MajorBowman vs. Demantoid
SM Doubles: Memoric vs. Kaori
SM Doubles: Jhon vs. Demantoid
SM Doubles: Jhon vs. Kaori
 
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