CAP 1 Smogon's First "Create a Pokemon": Poll 8

Which moves DON'T you want to see on our new pokemon (PICK TWO)

  • Zap Cannon

    Votes: 75 33.2%

  • Thunderpunch

    Votes: 20 8.8%

  • Close Combat

    Votes: 54 23.9%

  • Focus Blast

    Votes: 24 10.6%

  • Fire Blast

    Votes: 116 51.3%

  • Stone Edge

    Votes: 44 19.5%

  • Earthquake

    Votes: 52 23.0%

  • Earth Power

    Votes: 28 12.4%

  • Hydro Pump

    Votes: 81 35.8%
  • Total voters
    226
  • Poll closed .
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The idea of all this is to send a package to Nintendo showing how well thought out this is. Like how much work many, many people put into it by linking to all the polls, showing sketches, Sprites, etc. Showing them it's not "broken" competitivly, and then maybe they'll turn it into a pokemon next gen.

At least that's what I remember from a discussion in a poll ages back.
 
thats a good idea.
but its going to be rejected if it has compund eyes. or they will change it if they use it.

but it has already been decided one. sadly.
 
There are plenty of moves that are listed that don't make sense.. at all.

Fire Blast? From a Pokemon that's 4x weak to it and is made of ice? That's just like.. hilarious.

Stone Edge makes no sense, as it's an "ice ant." A lot of these options are making this guy so broken..

He still has Hidden Power..
 
We'd probably do more playtesting then they do and end up with a more balanced metagame XD

Ok the question now is:
Which one looks better?
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The only real difference is the shading on the shoulders. My vote goes to lefty.
 
We'd probably end up not doing stupid things like giving Tyranitar Sandstream.

Or just never taking submissions like Draco Meteor.

My vote is the left one as well. You see, Smogon is a democracy and Nintendo is some fat king everyone hates but everyone puts up with.
 
Forgive me if I'm overstepping the line here, but I made some changes to the sprite as well.

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I made the wings more pointed because they just seemed too rounded before, and moved the pupils down to look more like the original drawing, and because it seemed more natural with the arms that way.

Yes, I'm still new to spriting, but I thought I'd put in my thoughts.
 
Kamikaze Korean said:
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I like this one the most. The eyes had been bothering me for a long time as well. If this thing is really going to to bound and chained by manacles because no one read my post, it might as well be looking at its manacles because no one read my post. But anyway, I'm not too crazy about the sprites altogether. They all look like the bug's wearing manacles, and that's why it's hands are bound like that. Maybe we should change it. I think I said that a few posts ago....

Yes, I agree that Earthquake may be overpowered. But from the looks of things in the polls, it will be ousted soon enough. Same with you people saying that Fire blast doesn't work. It will be gone soon enough. Not sure what people have against Zap Cannon. 65% accuracy, even with Compound Eyes, isn't really that good. I'd rather use Thunderpunch.

Do people think I should 1) cancel the second part of this poll and 2) make it so only the bottom four moves stay in the final movepool, instead of five? The bottom three (Focus Blast, Thunderpunch, Earth Power) are really far down. In fact, I can just replace CC with Superpower if that would stop the bitching about brokenness. Plus, it seems like a good idea. That would leave my ideal moveset as Superpower/Thunderpunch/Earth Power/Blizzard. Any opinions?
 
Will someone please explain to me why Close Combat is soo damn broken on something that would be fucked in the ass by something with a freaking Mach Punch and/or Pursuited on a switch-out after using it to kill something? I really would like a more detailed explaintion onto why some of these moves when given to this damn monster are broken and/or not going on it?
 
If this thing doesn't get Close Combat, I'd atleast like to see Cross Chop. If Magmortar and Golduck can use it, I think this thing definately can.
 
Cross Chop would actually be more broken. Close Combat is hindered by this:

would be fucked in the ass by something with a freaking Mach Punch and/or Pursuit on a switch-out
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while Cross Chop is a 100% accurate, 100 base power move with the chance of a CH.

EDIT:
Manacle: a metal band, chain, or shackle for fastening someone's hands or ankles

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Lord_Sunday said:
We'd probably do more playtesting then they do and end up with a more balanced metagame XD

Ok the question now is:
Which one looks better?
weneedtostopdoingthis.png
Vs
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The only real difference is the shading on the shoulders. My vote goes to lefty.
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Lefty

We should so make the next gen, that would be awesome, we would make such a good meta game. We would also make a blissey rival and add some moves where needed, like slack off snorlax =]
 
Oh, at first I thought you were mispelling "monocle".

Well, glad that's cleared up. Don't worry, my version will have no manacle issues.
 
Kamikaze Korean said:
I don't know how serious you were being in terms of actually liking mine, but I'm working on shifting its right arm.
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That would be great. For the most part I like (or at the very least, "approve" of) the changes you made. And it does look slightly strange with it's arms right next to each other, like it's about to be handcuffed XD
 
Lord_Sunday said:
That would be great. For the most part I like (or at the very least, "approve" of) the changes you made. And it does look slightly strange with it's arms right next to each other, like it's about to be handcuffed XD
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I'm nearly done with what I think works, but I can't really do shading yet. If someone can take over from there, I'd really appreciate it.
 
Cooper said:
Do people think I should 1) cancel the second part of this poll and 2) make it so only the bottom four moves stay in the final movepool, instead of five? The bottom three (Focus Blast, Thunderpunch, Earth Power) are really far down. In fact, I can just replace CC with Superpower if that would stop the bitching about brokenness. Plus, it seems like a good idea. That would leave my ideal moveset as Superpower/Thunderpunch/Earth Power/Blizzard. Any opinions?
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That's fine by me. The only thing I have against Close Combat is that 1) it doesn't really fit the design, 2) Superpower does, and 3)Superpower actually cuts something relevant unlike Close Combat.

What would the fifth move be if we kept it? If its Stone Edge or Earthquake, I'll pass. I agree with you on Zap Cannon though, it's not like this thing can afford a miss.
 
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Well, the arm is moved. But it looks like I screwed up the part of the bady that was behind it. Also, the now visible claw/feet look bad. A more experienced person needs to take over now.
 
What would the fifth move be if we kept it? If its Stone Edge or Earthquake, I'll pass.
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It would be Stone Edge. It's currently tied for fifth with Close Combat. The way I see it, Stone Edge will go down in the day remaining, we change CC to Superpower, and leave it at the bottom four: Superpower, Earth Power, Thunderpunch, and Focus Blast.
 
Im not good at the actual spriting, but maybe [if your using photoshop] you take the original arm and rotate them down. Maybe rotating the body more towards facing the screen would take away from the bad arms. Im not too sure though.
 
Kamikaze Korean said:
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Well, the arm is moved. But it looks like I screwed up the part of the bady that was behind it. Also, the now visible claw/feet look bad. A more experienced person needs to take over now.
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I didn't think you were going to move the arm THAT much. Just a little bit to avoid it looking like his arms were chained together would have sufficed...
 
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