I meant in a single switch-in. Machamp doesn't wall Lax, obviously.
I meant in a single switch-in. Machamp doesn't wall Lax, obviously.
Thing with RBY Mewtwo is that pretty much nothing beats it period. Your only recourse against RBY Mewtwo is to PP stall it with Zam/Chansey, hope for 3-4 full paralysis turns in a row as you wail on it, or Explosion. And it doesn't give a fuck about feeble Normals. Unlike Zam, Mewtwo doesn't get mauled by Lapras' Body Slam or Zapdos Drill Peck; it's bulkier than Exeggutor. Tauros/Lax BS barely 4HKO and Mewtwo has Recover. Rhydon's the only physical attacker that doesn't rely on Hyper Beam to 3HKO... and gets OHKOed by a crit Psychic (sup 25% crit rate), Blizzard, or +2 whatever. Tauros also gets 2HKOed by that same Psychic, Snorlax 3HKOed and Lax doesn't even have a nice crit rate to maybe nab a surprise KO.Snorlax is much more comparable to RBY Mewtwo. With the right set it can beat any pokemon, meaning that its 'counters' are set dependent. I'm not too sure how much Mewtwo wants to switch into physical attacks, because paralysis can be fatal against something like a tauros or a snorlax.
You forgot freeze. Freeze is actually the reason Chansey's used against it - even Light Screen Chansey can't actually stall Mewtwo out if Mewtwo has Psychic.Thing with RBY Mewtwo is that pretty much nothing beats it period. Your only recourse against RBY Mewtwo is to PP stall it with Zam/Chansey, hope for 3-4 full paralysis turns in a row as you wail on it, or Explosion.
Nidoking doesn't even usually get a 4HKO. Please explain how this is "plenty" against something which usually has Rest.GSC Snorlax? [...] Takes plenty from Nidoking and can be slept,
Barrier. Recover.Mr.E- Mewtwo loses to paralysis plus wrap.
Eggy's 3HKOed by 999 STAB Psychic, and special falls just make it worse.It also walled by eggy or bro depending on whether it runs tbolt or blizzard.
Preaching about how Wrap should be unbanned on a community board that doesn't ban Wrap is pretty dumb, and makes you look pretty dumb.Mewtwo is only broken in RBY because people arbitrarily banned wrap. With wrap legal he's manageable because he never wants to take paralysis, which means he has to run from a lot of pokemon. The reason why he doesn't mind taking para in non-wrap is because it protects him from freezes. A long with sleep clause and stuff like that, the community made him OP with their arbitrary rules.
Actually, yes, it is stopped by Slowbro. You are forgetting that crits in RBY ignore all boosts - Mewtwo's critical STAB Psychic only does about 40%, not guaranteeing a 3HKO even with two crits (and you also have to not FP, since T-wave's the first thing Slowbro will be doing).this is important because people have been comparing him to RBY Mewtwo who literally has no weak (psychic/blizzard/amnesia/recover isn't even stopped by Slowbro due to crit being calculated off speed).
lolwut. Please play at least one actual game of RBY Ubers?I can lead with Mewtwo and there literally isn't a single pokemon in the game who can get an advantage as a lead against Mewtwo (selfdestruct lax is annoying but that's hardly an advantage as you blow yourself up in the process resulting in a 1 for 1, it's only an advantage if you use the broken Mewtwo yourself hurrdurr), it is just that overwhelming.
lol. For those who thought that the snorlax ban suggestion was a joke.Mewtwo is only broken in RBY because people arbitrarily banned wrap. With wrap legal he's manageable
Just attack those. One of the many and main reasons Snorlax is so good is that it lasts forever.if you happen to encounter a set that uses lovely kiss instead of rest you may just find both of your checks to be useless.
That's the thing, though. There's so many situations where just attacking Snorlax is a non-option unless you want it to set up and rock you. Non-Rest Snorlax is more vulnerable to Toxic than it is to repeated attacks for this reason.Just attack those. One of the many and main reasons Snorlax is so good is that it lasts forever.
Well that comment was with regards to non-wrap, which is how Ubers has traditionally been played.Barrier. Recover.
You yourself said that Mewtwo's counters are all set-dependent - that one is, too.
I never said they were hard counters. You paralyse Mewtwo, and then he has trouble switching in later. You can simply switch your own Mewtwo and paralyse theirs.(This is leaving aside the fact that no Wrapper can switch into +2 Mewtwo without Mewtwo threatening OHKO.)
I read somewhere that he was walled by eggy, but I guess I was misinformed.Eggy's 3HKOed by 999 STAB Psychic, and special falls just make it worse.
The true thing that walls Mewtwo if it doesn't run Ice is another Mewtwo, because it'll lose the freeze war.
RBY wasn't originally played with wrap because the simulators had dodgy wrap mechanics. He was banned in a non-wrap climate.Preaching about how Wrap should be unbanned on a community board that doesn't ban Wrap is pretty dumb, and makes you look pretty dumb.
Why do you say that?Banning Lax would be more about making the game more 'fun' rather than banning an anti-competitive pokemon.
Because the game isn't fundamentally anti-competitive with him legal. It's just that with him banned the game becomes less centralised.Why do you say that?
This mindset describes the Uber tier perfectly, particularly given that you clearly don't consider any Pokemon that has ever existed "deservedly bannable".But seeing as we're adapting a game, we should try to make it competitive whilst keeping the most default things unbanned as possible. I feel that banning lax violates this philosophy, and steps into the realm of arbitrary tweaking.