checks: drakloak natu
counters: otr mush, beheeyem
counters: otr mush, beheeyem
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Project SS PU Victim of the Week | Week 2 - Sneasel (Submissions)
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Checks: Drakloak and Meowstic
Counters: Togetic and CM Mush
I chose Drakloak because it literally cannot be damaged unless your opponent predicts that you are a SubDisable set, and even then you'd still win with WIsp+Hex. Meowstic is pretty self explanatory. Switch in and then just OHKO with Psyshock.
I choose Togetic as a counter because it can just roost off the LO damage and it literally just comes in and walls Hitmontop. I like CM Mush as a counter because it can just use Top as setup-fodder and then sweep.
Counters: Togetic and CM Mush
I chose Drakloak because it literally cannot be damaged unless your opponent predicts that you are a SubDisable set, and even then you'd still win with WIsp+Hex. Meowstic is pretty self explanatory. Switch in and then just OHKO with Psyshock.
I choose Togetic as a counter because it can just roost off the LO damage and it literally just comes in and walls Hitmontop. I like CM Mush as a counter because it can just use Top as setup-fodder and then sweep.
Drakloak and Mawile
Gourg and Musharna
Gourg and Musharna
drak natu
cm mush beheeyem
cm mush beheeyem
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voting phase is over!! thanks to everyone for voting, here at the results!
checks:
Cheezy's drakloak with 12 votes and 
Mordecai & Rigby's mawile with 10 votes!!
counters:
RahelGamer03's calm mind musharna with 13 votes and 
Don't give two shits's togetic with 10 votes !!
congratulations!! your submissions will be added to the archives shortly.
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moving on, this week's victim is...
Mr. Rime @ Choice Specs
Ability: Screen Cleaner
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
mr. rime's typing, vast movepool, and high special attack makes it a premier wallbreaker in the tier with a very limited amount of switchins, although its speed tier and aforementioned typing do leave it susceptible to faster threats and priority moves like first impression.
submitting the new drops this round is allowed, although i would advise against it, as we still don't know what's gonna happen with them. if you have any questions please let me know!
submission phase ends thursday / friday. good luck, and have fun!
checks:
Cheezy's drakloak with 12 votes and Mordecai & Rigby's mawile with 10 votes!!counters:
RahelGamer03's calm mind musharna with 13 votes and Don't give two shits's togetic with 10 votes !!congratulations!! your submissions will be added to the archives shortly.
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moving on, this week's victim is...
Mr. Rime @ Choice Specs
Ability: Screen Cleaner
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
mr. rime's typing, vast movepool, and high special attack makes it a premier wallbreaker in the tier with a very limited amount of switchins, although its speed tier and aforementioned typing do leave it susceptible to faster threats and priority moves like first impression.
submitting the new drops this round is allowed, although i would advise against it, as we still don't know what's gonna happen with them. if you have any questions please let me know!
submission phase ends thursday / friday. good luck, and have fun!
Nominating Silvally-Bug as a offensive check to Specs Rime
Silvally-Bug @ Bug Memory
Ability: RKS System
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Multi-Attack
- Flame Charge
- Psychic Fangs
Silvally-Bug @ Bug Memory
Ability: RKS System
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Multi-Attack
- Flame Charge
- Psychic Fangs
Silvally Bug can just OHKO with Multi-Attack and not take any damage or SD up while still living any of Rime's attacks with Rocks up. Flame Charge can also OHKO at +2 if Rime has been damaged by Rocks.
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic or Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Bug: 204-241 (61.6 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Bug: 121-143 (36.5 - 43.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Bug: 90-107 (27.1 - 32.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic or Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Bug: 204-241 (61.6 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Bug: 121-143 (36.5 - 43.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Bug: 90-107 (27.1 - 32.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic or Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Bug: 204-241 (61.6 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Silvally-Bug Multi-Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 402-474 (133.5 - 157.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 Atk Silvally-Bug Multi-Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 800-944 (265.7 - 313.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 Atk Silvally-Bug Flame Charge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 224-264 (74.4 - 87.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252 Atk Silvally-Bug Multi-Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 800-944 (265.7 - 313.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 Atk Silvally-Bug Flame Charge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 224-264 (74.4 - 87.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
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Falinks Band
Falinks @ Choice Band
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- First Impression
- Throat Chop
- Zen Headbutt
I don't have much to explain here is just go in and throw First Impression
252 Atk Choice Band Falinks First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 312-368 (103.6 - 122.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Falinks @ Choice Band
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- First Impression
- Throat Chop
- Zen Headbutt
I don't have much to explain here is just go in and throw First Impression
252 Atk Choice Band Falinks First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 312-368 (103.6 - 122.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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nomming fraxure as a offensive check to mr rime.
Fraxure @ Choice Band
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Stomping Tantrum
- Poison Jab
- First Impression
This doesn't really need a explanation. Just click First Impression.
calc:
252+ Atk Choice Band Mold Breaker Fraxure First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 382-450 (126.9 - 149.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Fraxure @ Choice Band
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Stomping Tantrum
- Poison Jab
- First Impression
This doesn't really need a explanation. Just click First Impression.
calc:
252+ Atk Choice Band Mold Breaker Fraxure First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 382-450 (126.9 - 149.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Klang @ Eviolite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 240 HP / 136 Def / 40 SpD / 92 Spe
Impish Nature
- Gear Grind
- Shift Gear
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
is a counter to choice specs- mr. rime as it can tank its stab moves psychic and ice beam with ease and it also can tank its coverage-optionin shadow ball with ease, the only thing it has to worry about it focus blast, but in overall klang can easily counter mr. rime as it can also make use of its move in rest, which makes it able to counter mr. rime consistently and sleep talk has a chance to trigger gear grind, which almost ohkoes mr. rime and with prior damage from stealth rocks mr. rime gets ohkoed by klangs stab gear grind.
calcs:
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Ice Beam vs. 240 HP / 40 SpD Eviolite Klang: 72-84 (22.4 - 26.1%) -- 90.1% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 240 HP / 40 SpD Eviolite Klang: 72-84 (22.4 - 26.1%) -- 90.1% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Focus Blast vs. 240 HP / 40 SpD Eviolite Klang: 254-300 (79.1 - 93.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Shadow Ball vs. 240 HP / 40 SpD Eviolite Klang: 85-101 (26.4 - 31.4%) -- 0.1% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
0 Atk Klang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 232-276 (77 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 240 HP / 40 SpD Eviolite Klang: 72-84 (22.4 - 26.1%) -- 90.1% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Focus Blast vs. 240 HP / 40 SpD Eviolite Klang: 254-300 (79.1 - 93.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Shadow Ball vs. 240 HP / 40 SpD Eviolite Klang: 85-101 (26.4 - 31.4%) -- 0.1% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
0 Atk Klang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 232-276 (77 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
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Silvally-Rock @ Rock Memory
Ability: RKS System
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Multi-Attack
- Flame Charge
- Psychic Fangs
CHECK: Like any super effective Silvally, Rockvally can easily OHKO Mr. Rime with its STAB Multi Attack. It can also switch into any attack from Rime except for Focus Blast (which only hits 70% of the time).
252 Atk Silvally-Rock Multi-Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 402-474 (133.5 - 157.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Silvally-Rock: 204-241 (61.6 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Munchlax @ Eviolite
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
Munchlax is a counter to specs Rime. It can take ice beam and psychic decently well and is immune to shadow ball. It does have to worry about focus blast though.
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 105-124 (22.1 - 26.1%) -- 8.4% chance to 4HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Thick Fat Munchlax: 52-63 (10.9 - 13.2%) -- possible 8HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 188-222 (39.6 - 46.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 4 Atk Munchlax Body Slam vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 153-181 (50.8 - 60.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Thick Fat Munchlax: 52-63 (10.9 - 13.2%) -- possible 8HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 188-222 (39.6 - 46.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 4 Atk Munchlax Body Slam vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 153-181 (50.8 - 60.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Nominating Pyuku as a defensive counter to Mr rime.
Pyukumuku @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Recover
- Toxic
- Soak
- Block
Pyuku can take hits from all of rime's moves and stall it with recover and toxic.
Calcs:
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pyukumuku: 118-139 (37.5 - 44.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pyukumuku: 59-69 (18.7 - 21.9%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pyukumuku: 105-124 (33.4 - 39.4%) -- 20% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pyukumuku: 70-83 (22.2 - 26.4%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pyukumuku: 79-93 (25.1 - 29.6%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery(soaked rime)
Pyukumuku @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Recover
- Toxic
- Soak
- Block
Pyuku can take hits from all of rime's moves and stall it with recover and toxic.
Calcs:
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pyukumuku: 118-139 (37.5 - 44.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pyukumuku: 59-69 (18.7 - 21.9%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pyukumuku: 105-124 (33.4 - 39.4%) -- 20% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pyukumuku: 70-83 (22.2 - 26.4%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pyukumuku: 79-93 (25.1 - 29.6%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery(soaked rime)
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Submitting kinda bad AV mawile as a CHECK
Mawile @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 248 HP / 12 Atk / 200 SpD / 48 Spe
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Knock Off / Thunder Punch / Whatever Coverage move seems right for your team
- Play Rough
- Sucker Punch
you always live two focus blasts outside of spdef drops, and you always kill back with iron head into sucker punch. I would normally run intimidate but you need sheer force to go iron head into sucker a reasonable amount of time while still not getting 2hkoed by focus blast. you run the speed for various creep reasons, but could easly go into whatever stat you feel like, if you put it into attack you can suddenly sucker punch twice to kill post rocks.
Mawile @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 248 HP / 12 Atk / 200 SpD / 48 Spe
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Knock Off / Thunder Punch / Whatever Coverage move seems right for your team
- Play Rough
- Sucker Punch
you always live two focus blasts outside of spdef drops, and you always kill back with iron head into sucker punch. I would normally run intimidate but you need sheer force to go iron head into sucker a reasonable amount of time while still not getting 2hkoed by focus blast. you run the speed for various creep reasons, but could easly go into whatever stat you feel like, if you put it into attack you can suddenly sucker punch twice to kill post rocks.
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 200+ SpD Assault Vest Mawile: 128-151 (42.2 - 49.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Shadow Ball vs. 248 HP / 200+ SpD Assault Vest Mawile: 85-101 (28 - 33.3%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 248 HP / 200+ SpD Assault Vest Mawile: 72-85 (23.7 - 28%) -- 92.2% chance to 4HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Ice Beam vs. 248 HP / 200+ SpD Assault Vest Mawile: 72-85 (23.7 - 28%) -- 92.2% chance to 4HKO
12 Atk Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 254-300 (69.7 - 82.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
12 Atk Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 114-136 (31.3 - 37.3%) -- 83.7% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Shadow Ball vs. 248 HP / 200+ SpD Assault Vest Mawile: 85-101 (28 - 33.3%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Psychic vs. 248 HP / 200+ SpD Assault Vest Mawile: 72-85 (23.7 - 28%) -- 92.2% chance to 4HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Mr. Rime Ice Beam vs. 248 HP / 200+ SpD Assault Vest Mawile: 72-85 (23.7 - 28%) -- 92.2% chance to 4HKO
12 Atk Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 254-300 (69.7 - 82.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
12 Atk Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mr. Rime: 114-136 (31.3 - 37.3%) -- 83.7% chance to 3HKO
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