Project SV DOU Tierlist Thread

[Kenpwnchi]

 

[Xrn]

tier about to change again here was my SCL VR, fun tournament, lunar might make a team dump or maybe I will or maybe not
see you around
shout-out to people for testing with me
ping on disc if you care enough to talk about any of this stuff

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[qsns]

tl;dr on controversial takes:
- Hands is incredibly broken into teams that don't have good damage mitigation (Intimidate, Wisp, Amoong) but can feel so dead into those
- Lando-T is good but far from necessary or defining
- I strongly value Torn HO over every other more inconsistent style of offense (Psyspam, hard sun, hard rain)
- defensive setup mons like Palafin and ID Kommo-o are extremely ass, just hit your opponent in the face with your overstatted Pokemon

i am too lazy to put on manaphy and clefairy but they're both tier 4 imo

 

[Kenpwnchi]

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tl;dr on controversial takes:
- Hands is incredibly broken into teams that don't have good damage mitigation (Intimidate, Wisp, Amoong) but can feel so dead into those
- Lando-T is good but far from necessary or defining
- I strongly value Torn HO over every other more inconsistent style of offense (Psyspam, hard sun, hard rain)
- defensive setup mons like Palafin and ID Kommo-o are extremely ass, just hit your opponent in the face with your overstatted Pokemon

i am too lazy to put on manaphy and clefairy but they're both tier 4 imo

Been tryna tell people for the longest that Torn is goated. The mon literally has everything you'd want in a support mon (primarily because of Prankster), and then some.

 

[qsns]

https://tiermaker.com/create/gen-9-dou-post-home-15567580 thank you Glimmer for the tier list! Added Entei, Kyurem and Exca from this.

 

[Glimmer]

Kyurem, Excadrill, and Entei have been added to the actual tiermaker

 

[Fangame10]

alignment chart

 

[Sonikku A]

I feel Golduck might function better as a doubles support mon than a bootleg Swift Swim sweeper. Cloud Nine is good for weather cancelling, and utility moves like Simple Beam, Soak, Icy Wind, Clear Smog, Disable, Encore, Skill Swap, Helping Hand, Screech, Taunt, Psych Up, Light Screen, and Yawn makes it fairly good at disrupting or enabling strategies (*note, Soak sadly fails on a Tera'd mon. Seems GF didn't want that to be broken)

Of course the bigger issue is its stats (highest is 95 for Sp. Atk sadly), and locking yourself to 4 status moves (incl. Icy Wind) means it'll literally be a sitting duck late game. I generally do this:

Golduck;
Item: Leftovers
Moves;
-Clear Smog
-Power Gem/Hydro Pump
-Soak
-Icy Wind
Tera: Ice/Rock/Water
Stats:

Icy Wind is just generally nice speed control, Soak can assist the ally defensively, or ruin the enemy defensively as a psuedo Tera, Power Gem or Hydro miss depending if I want coverage or Stab, and Clear Smog as a less disruptive Haze to shut down setup sweepers or accidental enemy buffs (like Competitive Empoleon, Defiant users, etc)

Tera is either super Water stab, Ice for buffing Icy Wind, or Rock to buff Power Gem

Tier Wise though, especially as of now, F (down to Doubles NU or maybe UU). If people use it more, maybe it can be high F, low E

 

[RelicanthPrimal]

I feel Golduck might function better as a doubles support mon than a bootleg Swift Swim sweeper. Cloud Nine is good for weather cancelling, and utility moves like Simple Beam, Soak, Icy Wind, Clear Smog, Disable, Encore, Skill Swap, Helping Hand, Screech, Taunt, Psych Up, Light Screen, and Yawn makes it fairly good at disrupting or enabling strategies (*note, Soak sadly fails on a Tera'd mon. Seems GF didn't want that to be broken)

Of course the bigger issue is its stats (highest is 95 for Sp. Atk sadly), and locking yourself to 4 status moves (incl. Icy Wind) means it'll literally be a sitting duck late game. I generally do this:

Golduck;
Item: Leftovers
Moves;
-Clear Smog
-Power Gem/Hydro Pump
-Soak
-Icy Wind
Tera: Ice/Rock/Water
Stats:
View attachment 587956

Icy Wind is just generally nice speed control, Soak can assist the ally defensively, or ruin the enemy defensively as a psuedo Tera, Power Gem or Hydro miss depending if I want coverage or Stab, and Clear Smog as a less disruptive Haze to shut down setup sweepers or accidental enemy buffs (like Competitive Empoleon, Defiant users, etc)

Tera is either super Water stab, Ice for buffing Icy Wind, or Rock to buff Power Gem

Tier Wise though, especially as of now, F (down to Doubles NU or maybe UU). If people use it more, maybe it can be high F, low E

this is for tierlists, u can nom stuff here: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-doubles-ou-viability-rankings.3710905/

 

[SuckyLucky]

Gonna try my own tier list here, some opinions might be biased based on personal experience/use. Ordered inside each tier roughly as well, less so for Tier 4/5.

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