Scald+no megas sounds awful.
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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]
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For people who are struggling to deal with Magearna, I have made a blueprint on how to deal with Magearna much easier.
https://pastebin.com/tbRpneJs
Warning: There might be few inaccuracies, but this should help teambuilding a lot.
https://pastebin.com/tbRpneJs
Warning: There might be few inaccuracies, but this should help teambuilding a lot.
There have been healthy Stored Power users in the past, Magic Guard Reuniclus for instance. Sure, there have been a lot of cheesy SP strategies, but that's usually due to being enabled by another uncompetitive element (be it Baton Pass or Shadow Tag). Thus, there are only two Pokémon that have really been broken by Stored Power, and in Magearna's case it's unclear that it wouldn't be broken without Stored Power, so you're banning a healthy element of the metagame just to save an ostrich. No thanks.
Really good post, hopefully it helps a lot of people. I would add Trick Room as counterplay to Shift Gear Magearna in general, it really prevents it from sweeping. It doesn,t even need to be a full Trick Room team, just one Mon with the Move and another one that can hit it hard while underspeeding could be enough.
We can see the Bears paw lol
while I admit you do have guts to try and edit it, I can still see past the facade and it's still unbearable to look at
We can Flame or b nicer about their efforts. Let's not rush Headlong into such an Adamant decision
Last 2 will be Ursaluna and Urshifu Rapid Strike
It looks like there's a third one though, so the last one might be Light Clay.
Lando is extremely splashable and has been very popular since HOME Meta began. The fact it blanket checks so many pokemon still, on top of being spikes and toxic spikes immune while being such a good stealth rocker is insanely valuable. It's easily one of the best pivots in the metagame right now and pairs beautifully with Galarian Slowking, who also is top tier.
I don't think things like Ursaluna, Sneasler, and Urshifu can be reasonably tested when we have Magearna, Zamas, and Chien Pao running around.
Mons that check those guys might be unviable when you have to account for Magearna and Chien Pao in the teambuilder... but could easily fit on an OU-quality team without those clearly broken threats.
Mons that check those guys might be unviable when you have to account for Magearna and Chien Pao in the teambuilder... but could easily fit on an OU-quality team without those clearly broken threats.
there will be tera. i see a bit of a yellow point coming out of the scribbles, and thats the only thing i think it could be.
well, it could be zapdos, but thats dumb.
other possibilities may include
kingambit
iron moth
he put regieleki in the image before the quickban anouncement and was to lazy to remove it
moltres
pikachu
raichu
skeledirge
well, it could be zapdos, but thats dumb.
that could be it
other possibilities may include
kingambit
iron moth
he put regieleki in the image before the quickban anouncement and was to lazy to remove it
moltres
pikachu
raichu
skeledirge
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I think the orange triangle looks like volcarona's wing ngl. I think it lines up pretty well, and is also more likely to be looked into than Tera or Zapdos
on the radar:
cat weasel
cat weasel
dog
dog
bear
bear
doll
moth
and a speck of dust that wont come off no matter how hard i scrub
cat weasel
cat weasel
dog
dog
bear
bear
doll
moth
and a speck of dust that wont come off no matter how hard i scrub
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New toy syndrome (à la Mimikyu) or meta defining mon?
And how to deal with him right now?
It loses to any faster mon, for the moment it looks underwhelming for me, we need to wait for the meta to stabilize before saying it is bad.
Tbh the only one I would hit for sure is Mag. I think everyone else benefits from the meta Mag brutally enforces. I could see the argument for Chien Pao also being problematic since Mag is a good check to it and it is still problematic arguably.
I personally think Zamazenta C while certainly spooky benefits so much from the offensive cesspool of a meta Mag and Chien Pao enforce. It has bad 4MSS and is very MU fishy into HO, which is super pervasive right now. If those two are hit first, I think Zama C has the potential to be healthy since it’s very clearly benefitting from the meta.
Ursaluna also is stupid but benefits from the meta. Mag is easily one of its best partners and without Mag the trick Room sets will fall off. It still hits like a warhead but it’s not a big problem rn.
Sneasler is toxic but it’s not a problem rn. There are bigger fish to fry.
Zama H is honestly fine and kind of underwhelming. It’s not great at body press sets compared to its crowned counterpart. It’s still annoying into offense but the only reason that set is as spooky as it is currently is cause the meta is forced into HO. The CB set is solid but out of the mons on the radar this is easily the least broken right now.
As for Urshifu RS or Light clay, idc. They aren’t nearly as much of a concern rn.
TLDR: Ban Magearna, Ban Chien Pao, save Zama C for the second radar, Ursaluna will fall off without robot gf,i hate Sneasler but it isn’t banworthy yet, Zama H isn’t even that good smh.
guys, i understand why you think ursaluna is banworthy. my team got swept by calyrex ice in natdex ubers, and i thought it deseerved to be banned for a few minutes. but you just have to get gud. anyways, heres a team i made.
https://pokepast.es/12d4d019f307c64c
fighting this team is like dragapults matchup against chien pao. its doable, but you have to use some 4d chess reads.
https://pokepast.es/12d4d019f307c64c
fighting this team is like dragapults matchup against chien pao. its doable, but you have to use some 4d chess reads.
I think that Hisuian Samurott is a quite okay Pokemon, Ceaseless Edge can be quite annoying to switch into and deal with long term because of Spikes being set up, however, we have pretty good checks to it like Magearna, Urshifu-R, Zamazenta and Toxapex while also having an awkward speed tier, letting Pokemon like the aforementioned Urshifu-R, Enamorus, and Roaring Moon revenge kill it. It's not meta defining but not bad at all, and counterplay for it is quite solid.
Tera Flying Slowking-G works here too, forgot to put that in the paste
Anyways, I've been rocking with this Ice-spam core for a bit and I think it's pretty solid. Chien-Pao is already known as a very strong wallbreaker and Baxcalibur is an annoying set-up sweeper, and they certainly appreciate Galarian Slowking pivoting into them and dealing with Pokemon like Enamorus and Magearna. It's a somewhat standard core but I've been enjoying it a lot recently. What do you guys think?
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To be fair, pex may take its hits but it's still letting Hamurott get spikes up freely. Which I think is what makes it such a nice mon, that guaranteed value in a meta with such limited hazard removal.
Anyways, I've been rocking with this Ice-spam core for a bit and I think it's pretty solid. Chien-Pao is already known as a very strong wallbreaker and Baxcalibur is an annoying set-up sweeper, and they certainly appreciate Galarian Slowking pivoting into them and dealing with Pokemon like Enamorus and Magearna. It's a somewhat standard core but I've been enjoying it a lot recently. What do you guys think?
I like it (well I hate broken pao but can't see that being long for this world). Surprised bax has still felt as threatening to come across even in the new meta. Definitely a scary threat. This looks cool and I may have to try it later! Thanks for sharing!
It strikes me as off so many people are forgetting that one of the current best non Magearna mons in the meta also happens to be a fantastic trick room setter and can just as well set the state for Ursaluna even without mag. Even for full TR, we still have multiple good TR setters.
https://pokepast.es/1a8ebce83eae3038
wanted to share this fun rain team. I dont think its that good, but its fun. I honestly feel like having a non-water mon with swift swim (Overqwil) is really good for rain, especially since its type gives it resistance to grass & its not weak to electric. Only weakness is ground, which water handles (Rain). Also, Specs Pult under rain with thunder & hydro pump is good.
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this is screenshot is very hard to read for me, how about you share a pokepast please?
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