Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

[Nyurgh555]

You’re called the “No Action” camp for a reason

It's not like Tera was magically going to be banned if 1% more voted for action. Tera preview is the least obstructive of the options, which shows a genuine sentiment that players believe that it's too soon to ban the mechanic outright.

 

[Excalibuwrath]

I'm actually pretty curious about the "on the radar" section now (assuming Chi-Yu gets quickbanned). I assume Ape is the next thing to get looked at, but after that, there are so many directions to go, so many things that are at least a little bit of a problem. I'd probably put Chien-Pao (gen 8 Weavile but stronger) and Volcarona (a 6-0 machine that basically forces Skeledirge, Clodsire or CM Blissey) as my personal priorities, but I certainly wouldn't blame anyone for putting Cyclizar as their highest priority.

 

[Melbelle]

And I do believe we need to show Tera Types at team preview, especially since that's what the VGC forces you to do.

so true ou also needs no sleep clause, item clause, legendaries like moltres banned, and levels limited to 50
/s

 

[Karmagisax]

"boycott ou" yeah like that's gonna happen lol
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i myself will definitely boycott OU

 

[Low-Key]

You’re called the “No Action” camp for a reason

LMAOOOOOO BRO JUST GOT CAUGHT

 

[alephgalactus]

"boycott ou" yeah like that's gonna happen lol

I’m just stating a peaceful solution that I think a decent number of people will get on board with. Be glad I didn’t suggest what I actually want to happen.

Go ahead then

I’ve been.

 

[Herv]

 

[Weakness Policy Contrary]

... And that's why a supermajority is stupid.

idk man the supermajority seemed to agree with you on dynamax. maybe you need to git gud

 

[yNot Mence]

So over 200 voters supported action on Tera and found out that their votes didn’t count because their voices were drowned out by a vocal minority, and now competitive is dead until the Council decides to retest it. Perhaps it’s time to make our voices known through more effective means. I suggest that anyone who voted for tiering action should boycott OU until a retest happens. The meta isn’t worth playing in its current state anyway, so you won’t lose anything of value by not playing it.

I understand your sentiment, but you should remember that many people who voted Action (like me) only cared about reveal during team preview. And if that won, and it would, it really wouldn't have changed the meta that much.

 

[Karmagisax]

I understand your sentiment, but you should remember that many people who voted Action (like me) only cared about reveal during team preview. And if that won, and it would, it really wouldn't have changed the meta that much.

Wouldve made the meta less of a guessing game which it kind of is rn

 

[alephgalactus]

I understand your sentiment, but you should remember that many people who voted Action (like me) only cared about reveal during team preview. And if that won, and it would, it really wouldn't have changed the meta that much.

Which is still vastly preferable to nothing happening at all.

 

[Critaquil]

I absolutely agree, Chi-Yu is definitely the most problematic thing in the current metagame by a mile. But lately I've been noticing how strong Terastallized Banded Chien-Pao is, and considering how popular this set is getting I wouldn't be surprised if people started calling for it to get banned as well. Those two and Rage Fist are the only bans I really support right now.

rage fist doesn't need banning, its anihilape, primape has the move too and is barely an ru threat, let alone broken in ou

So over 200 voters supported action on Tera and found out that their votes didn’t count because their voices were drowned out by a vocal minority, and now competitive is dead until the Council decides to retest it. Perhaps it’s time to make our voices known through more effective means. I suggest that anyone who voted for tiering action should boycott OU until a retest happens. The meta isn’t worth playing in its current state anyway, so you won’t lose anything of value by not playing it.

cope, seeth, mald. comp isn't dead, this may have not been the majority option but the option that was wasn't gonna change a whole lot, showing types on preview would be nice, but it wouldn't really fix any of the core issues with tera and would be more of a band-aid to the issues people who want it banned have with it.

 

[Ruft]

So over 200 voters supported action on Tera and found out that their votes didn’t count because their voices were drowned out by a vocal minority, and now competitive is dead until the Council decides to retest it. Perhaps it’s time to make our voices known through more effective means. I suggest that anyone who voted for tiering action should boycott OU until a retest happens. The meta isn’t worth playing in its current state anyway, so you won’t lose anything of value by not playing it.

my brother in christ you didn't even get reqs

 

[alephgalactus]

my brother in christ you didn't even get reqs

I’m not your brother and you’re not fit to call him Christ.

 

[spatulakun]

Mark my word, this is the best moment of Smogon's history. Making this kind of suspect a "supermajority" one was such an excellent decision to be honest. People voted, only 59% said they wanted something done about Tera but eh it seems it doesn't matter. I can't wait to watch the next SPL this is going to be something..yeah something. I’m full of happiness, really a great day for Smogon's strategy.

 

[Karmagisax]

my brother in christ you didn't even get reqs

Rather dont get reqs than be a "no action" voter lol

 

[DawnofDay]

I BET A WHOLE DOLLAR ON TERA ACTION AND IT LOST BY LIKE TWO VOTES NOOOO

 

[Weakness Policy Contrary]

never have i ever seen so many people this angry about tera being unbanned. this is great. tera FTW

 

[Nyurgh555]

I’m not your brother and you’re not fit to call him Christ.

Rather dont get reqs than be a "no action" voter lol

True paragons of skill and intelligence here.

 

[Concept Everything]

So over 200 voters supported action on Tera and found out that their votes didn’t count because their voices were drowned out by a vocal minority, and now competitive is dead until the Council decides to retest it. Perhaps it’s time to make our voices known through more effective means. I suggest that anyone who voted for tiering action should boycott OU until a retest happens. The meta isn’t worth playing in its current state anyway, so you won’t lose anything of value by not playing it.

“Unfortunate" doesn't begin to describe my voting, this community rewards bad tiering decisions and nothing else, I am beyond convinced at this point. After getting completely tooled by voting with my barely attaining voting requirements, losing this way somehow felt even worse than I had thought possible. My voting was superior, my melodramatic arguement was superior, and I lost, so I don't see a reason to continue engaging in an activity where what is within my control is overwhelmingly outweighed by 0.75%.

 

[DNNP]

Rather dont get reqs than be a "no action" voter lol

Thanks for letting us know you can't find a way to get 80 GXE on the ladder. see you next year

 

[yNot Mence]

rage fist doesn't need banning, its anihilape, primape has the move too and is barely an ru threat, let alone broken in ou

I know, but I'd rather ban the move at this point instead of the dead monkey. The only real reason that mon is S tier is because of how broken that move is, but if I have to pick between keeping things as they are now and banning Annihilape I'm always choosing the second option.

 

[yNot Mence]

Wouldve made the meta less of a guessing game which it kind of is rn

Well I agree, hence why I voted for it.

 

[Weakness Policy Contrary]

True paragons of skill and intelligence here.

he. he is against tera. and voted no action?? my brother in christ YOU couldve stopped this lmaoo

 

[KaiserKaiba]

I dont care about Gen 9 but this suspect test was very funny to follow. Thank you very much ou council!