get it out of my tier
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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion
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get it out of my tier
Okay, enough meming: I wonder if it would be worth looking over Grimmsnarl eventually. Its Dual Screens set with Parting Shot keeps popping up to enable other Mons to do bullshit and helps Shed Tail stay relevant despite Orthworm being far worse than Cyclizar.
This is not an argument for keeping Espathra or bringing Cyclizar back, just something we should have an eye on as we wait for Home.
This is not an argument for keeping Espathra or bringing Cyclizar back, just something we should have an eye on as we wait for Home.
Yes, please nuke the bird. Has been my biggest nightmare while getting requs. It was the ONLY Mon which made my CalcDex literally crash with its Tera, when my timer was running low, forcing me to very risky plays. Truly an abomniation, and I really think that Tera-Fire is the way to go.
Mmmmmmaybe. Orthworm's got plenty of its own good traits to work with and we should probably wait until the craziest minmaxed users of dual screens are gone to see if Grimmsnarl in general is problematic. I think there's an argument for it but right now a chunk of it is that Espathra and Chien-Pao can run away with games if you can't respond to them in time.
ou will never be playable if gamefreak keeps making bonkers ass mons like they have been this gen tbh
Goat take and goat pfp.
I want to go back in time, to gen 4 and the dawn of the phys/special split, and slowly explain to the players there just what sort of unholy nonsense is occurring. Even after Espathra drops it a bit, the average BST of our 7 (soon to be 8 or 9) banned mons is still a
You could drop any of them in an older generation and they'd just tear it up like an invasive species. Even Houndstone.
..probably.
e: wait. Houndstone has almost as much bulk as Dusknoir (70/100/100 vs 40/130/130)? What a strangely optimized little guy.
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I feel like going back in time to explain to a DPP player that Garchomp is outclassed as a physical attacker in OU and mostly serves as a hazard lead while the banlist includes a special attacker that can reliably 2HKO Blissey would give them a coronary.
Just tell them Blissey is in RU and Ttar is in UU and they'll faint on the spot
Yeah but that wasn't really the fault of power creep and more catastrophal movepool cuts and mechanical changes that fucked up certain OU staples more than any powercreep ever could have
Personally I like gen 9 OU but I do agree that there is still work to be done. I am still not on board with an Espartha ban but we should be attentive after Pao's ban and post home integration
What if I go back in time and tell an XY player that 
is NU
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Bro I go away for like 2 days and wtf is this discussion forum
anyways, I'm tired of talking about Espatra, so let's do something fun instead
Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 180 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Eerie Impulse
- Will-O-Wisp
I have been trying this Rotom-Wash set which is tons of fun let me tell you, Eerie Impulse is a move that lowers the SpA of the Opp in 2, combined with WoW, I can potentially mess with both sides and give turns for my team, problem is, requires too much brain to use, and while it can be insane, It's very easy to just click it on a dengo and there goes your hopes, but if you use it right, damm if this thing works, this is new meta man, bro I promise
anyways, I'm tired of talking about Espatra, so let's do something fun instead
Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 180 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Eerie Impulse
- Will-O-Wisp
I have been trying this Rotom-Wash set which is tons of fun let me tell you, Eerie Impulse is a move that lowers the SpA of the Opp in 2, combined with WoW, I can potentially mess with both sides and give turns for my team, problem is, requires too much brain to use, and while it can be insane, It's very easy to just click it on a dengo and there goes your hopes, but if you use it right, damm if this thing works, this is new meta man, bro I promise
Clod and Gastro still sits on this, which is hilarious. Ground types that also have the ability to say no to Water moves just turn Washtom into a walking, talking juice box lmfao.
Yeah, but stuff like protect and thunder wave also have the same problem, unless you run something like tera blast or idk,
and still, at least you can WoW which nullifies Leftovers Recovery and makes clod forced to toxic something if he wants to make some progress
This is the part where you show a new rotom wash set that you invented yesterday, it changes the meta entirely, and you get 100000000000000000 badges for it
they keep balancing mons around doubles and then banning them in vgc anyway
"w-well, at least talonflame is still a meta staple, right?"What if I go back in time and tell an XY player that
"nah fam, gale wings got annihilated in gen 7 and it's never even gotten close to ou after that"
"what about gengar?"
"nah, they de-levitated that"
"mega scizor?"
"no more megas"
"surely at least ferrothorn and clefable are safe. there's no way they could nerf those hard enough to make them unviable, right?"
"uh…"
To be fair Clod and Gastro will always completely wall any Rotom-W set, unless it's Scarf. But even still, the may get Tricked but they'll wall it nonetheless. I guess you could run an offensive Rotom with Tera Grass and Nasty Plot, but I've yet to see one in action.
R.I.P. Pursuit, we will never forget. Game freak has done a lot of dumb changes recently. Think they've fallen into the hustle of trying to get new players interested instead of trying to satisfy the old. It's why we keep getting new mechanics, so it's not the "same game".
Thanks y'all for the hard work
ORAS players would be quacking if they saw a mon with 155/125/80 bulk, spikes, and an ability that lowers everyone’s spA by 25% when it hits the field.
If people playing Washtom want to NOT get walled by Gastro, all that they need to do is slot on Hex lmfao. Probably drop Tbolt for it.
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Whatever defensive spread/tera
Hydro Miss
Volt Switch
Hex
Will-o-Wisp
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Hex (130 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gastrodon: 79-94 (18.5 - 22%) -- 43.8% chance to 4HKO after burn damage (covert cloak)
Meanwhile the only moves Gasto can hit you with are Chilling Water, Surf, and Ice Beam. Clod can toss a Toxic your way, but they're normally EQ/Tox/Rec/SR, which means that outside of Tox, they can't do much to you.
Mess if the ugly Emu ends up being banned first than Pao, I found the latter more oppressive but if that would help with the meta and to stop seeing her ugly name being brought up 987239473492374 times in this thread then yeah, pls send her away.
I was under the impression that today would be the last day of the suspect test for chien pao.
I guess we will have to wait for 4 more days for the final decision.
I guess we will have to wait for 4 more days for the final decision.
Last day for suspect testing was yesterday, decision can take a couple of days depends on when a super majority does / doesn't get reached
I hope something for the IGOR album is apart of this
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