Resource SV OU Simple Questions, Simple Answers Thread

[sims796]

Not really, there's niche options like Clef or Jirachi but Clef loses a lot of utility by running wish tect and Jirachi is not really used. you seem to be leaning towards bulky offense with Scizor and Rotom W, given that they don't have recovery, but bulky offense doesn't usually fit wish pass. bulky offense prefers a faster tempo to pressure the opponent and wish passing gives up a lot of momentum. if you would like a form of healing for your team, you could consider healing wish. it doesn't give up much momentum and it lets you completely restore one of your mons, so it's usually a better fit than wish pass. of course this is just advice, you could make a bulky offense team that really focuses on the bulky aspect.

I was shooting more for balance (hazard stack volt turn), but I admit i cant tell the difference between the two playstyes. I wanted to give Pain Split Rotom a try s I keep momentum flowing

 

[Eeveeto]

Ok, another question, thanks for the excellent answers (gonna go AV on it). I want to utilize Rotom in some fashion, and unless a case can be made for the other forms I'll most likely be using Wash. That means I problems won't use Alo.

Is there any other Wishpasser worth their salt that isn't Alo?

During Wcop, I didn't end up playing SV OU, but got to build. The 3 Wishers that I managed to make kind of work are:
-Pdef Rocky Helmet with Wish, Morning Sun, Psychic Noise, Copycat Espeon with Tera Bug. Most of the time is not an actual passer, but Copycat sometimes does allow to pivot. The main feature though is Magic Bounce. Espeon can deny Hazards against many Mons and also do funny stuff with Copycat like a Ruination to a Ting Lu (who never 2HKOs with EQ even when no Tera, unless it's offensive of course).
-Also Pdef Rocky Helmet Illumise with Wish, Roost, Encore and U-Turn, Tera Ghost (Extreme Speed immunity). Pure Bug allows Illumise to easily switch into most Tusks and Zamazentas, among other things. Prankster Encore sabotages all non-Dark set-up and when Illumise is about to die, it can still use one last priority Wish.
-Offensive Latias with Wish, Roost, Ice Beam and Aura Sphere, still Rocky Helmet (goated item) and Tera Steel. Levitate + Tera Steel is an amazing combo that allows to wall big threats, like Glimmora, Kyurem, Gliscor and most Enamorus. Since it's the anti-Gliscor, Ice Beam (pre-Tera) and Aura Sphere (post Tera) are the offensive moves, I wish Latias got Psychic Noise vs slower teams, but only Latios gets it unfortunately.

All of these 3 Mons appear on this Savouras post about our Wcop teams: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threa...-2025-sv-ou-discussion.3764281/#post-10630984

They are all niche, but serve their purpose. Alomomola does not pair well with both Scarf Samurott and AV Primarina, since they are all Water types. That is a problem for the Water starters, since they are both trading usually (killing one opponent at the expense of their own HP). Alternative Wishers solve this by allowing them to stick around longer. AV Okidogi also likes Wish, because like Primarina, he is a trader in most match-ups.

Basically, if you cover Waterpon well and don't need offensive Waters yourself, use Alomomola, it's a proven Mon, easy to use and works. Otherwise, there are alternative Wishers that can do the job better.