Team Super Mega BBQ Can Opener [OU RMT]

Tok09

I bet you're think "Why the heck is this team called this?" Reason: Because it has no real name.

Team Overview:

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Infernape (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 48 Atk/208 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Fake Out
- Stealth Rock
- Close Combat
- Fire Blast
Why Game Freak gave it Stealth Rock is beyond me, but I can abuse that and use it as a suicide lead just to get out those rocks as once they me from losing from a SR weak Pokemon. Fake Out is what makes this lead so special. It breaks Sash's. Fire Blast over Flamethrower because He won't be in there for long and he has to get out as much damage as possible before fainting.
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Slowbro (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 212 HP/254 Def/44 SAtk
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Slack Off
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
The Great Physical wall of Water Types. I suppose the only reason why it didn't make it into OU because of it's speed. Anyway, who cares about speed when you're a wall. It has such great defenses that a Bronzong's Explosion only did a bit over half. Surf for STAB. Slack Off for healing. Gyarados can't do much to this beast anyway and Ice Beam does neutral. Cripple the Gyarados who dares come in.


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Machamp @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 188 HP/ 96 Atk/ 216 Def/ 8 Speed
Adamant Nature (+ Atk, -Sp.Atk)
-Dynamic Punch
-Stone Edge
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
Status absorbs anything aimed at my team, then rests it off. Also makes a great tank.
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Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP/ 54 Atk/ 216 SDef
Careful Nature (+ SDef, -Sp.Atk)
-Iron Head
-Wish
-Fire Punch
-Body Slam/ Thunder Wave
Special wall of this team. Not a thing Gengar can do to me. Iron Head still does a lot to it. Fire Punch for the ever increasing Magnezone that try to trap and kill me. Jirachi can take a couple Thunderbolts because of the spread. The decision between Thunder Wave and Body Slam is very hard. Body Slam hits the Ground types and Thunder Wave hits the fast Ghost types, for example Gengar, which can let me take advantage of the now 60% flinch chance of Iron Head.
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Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP
Modest Nature (+ Sp.Atk, -Atk)
-Tri Attack
-Dark Pulse
-Thunder Bolt
-Ice Beam
Scarf-Z is sooo underrated. It can effectively Revenge Kill and Special Sweep. Not much can wall this because of the magic Bolt-Beam combo. Tri Attack for obvious STAB. Dark Pulse is for Ghost a Pyschic types, although HP [Fighting] is a very worthy option, but it helps with Gengar.
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Zapdos @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Sp.Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP
Modest Nature (+ Sp.Atk, - Atk)
-Thunderbolt
-Heat Wave
-Hidden Power [Grass]
-U- Turn
Thunder birdy says please go away Gyarados. When some one says for me to go away I use U- Turn, that is if I have scouted a counter on their team.
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That's all my has to it, so rates away!
 
I really have no idea what you're trying to do here. it kinda seems like you slapped a bunch of pokemon together and hoped for the best. so let's try and fix this up. your first problem is that you haven't really gotten a goal anywhere. but, seeing as the current metagame is shat all over by bulky cmers and cursers, let's put cm over flamethrower on slowbro, as really metagross isn't doing much to slowbro anyways and slowbro has recovery. I'd also probably replace hp electric with ice beam, as gyarados is outsped and killed off by your scarfers while ddmence is not. now, with cm/slack off slowbro, you have to be wary of a few things in today's metagame, namely zapdos, scizor, and tyranitar, as they all hit you incredibly hard with their STAB supereffective attacks, as well as random status and other bulky waters. now, it just kinda looks like you put evire there for fun, so you may as well replace him with a resttalking machamp who helps you to absorb the status, as well as switch into tyranitar and zapdos fairly easily while frightening them.

umbreon really isn't doing anything for you, seeing as logar actually 2HKOs you with focus blast, so you really can't kill gengar. you'd probably be better off with a special defensive wishing jirachi, to tell the truth. what jirachi does for you is to still kill gengar, but also paralyse random stuff so that machamp and slowbro can really wreak havoc, as well as u-turn so you can get your scarfers in safely against stuff that tries to set up on you.

now, with all this done, I'd probably switch scarfmence with scarfzapdos, since zapdos really does the lategame sweep better with more special attack and stronger STAB. Zapdos also allows you to properly revenge kill gyara if something should happen to porygon. zapdos also allows you to switch into scizor with impunity, as it can be kinda annoying. STAB thunderbolt also is a nice thing when your main guy is beat by bulky waters.

at this point, you've got a main idea, cm bro, with the rest of your team beating the stuff that he doesn't like. and then should something go wrong, you still are doing enough damage to the opponent while utilizing wish to keep your scarfers around so they can kill off tons of crap. with two scarfers and slowbro as well as a resttalker who forces switches nicely, you've got the opponent switching a lot while sr takes its toll. at the same time, all the major threats, tran, zapdos, scizor, etc are covered fairly well. and with the amount of speed on the team beating down offense while in general you shit all over stall with cm bro/resttalk champ, NOW you should have a successful team.
 
Thanks man. Should I switch Mixleadape to pure physical since Machamp is more of tank and slower and can't really be a physical sweeper? And what's the set for a scarf Zapdos?
 
I really think that at the moment MixVire really is the way to go. Especially with HP Grass it will give you the ability to Lure out Swampert and Kill it, something that the rest of your team will fail to do. This will allow Salamence to be a lot more potant as Swampert is not a perfect counter for it , but it wiull cause it some problems.

I am also supporting Stathakis suggestion to change Slowbro to a CM slowbro, which will give you some kind of chance for it to help you take out Zapdos, whom Porygon-Z is currently your only answer to Umbreon will also help, but is a bit of an unreliable Wish Passer due to it being set up fodder. I suggest changing him to a Blissey, or if you find her lack of Attacking prowess a bit off putting you could always change her to a Wish / (Protect or Roost) / Thunder Wave / Air Slash Togekiss who will be able to survive a Thunderbnolt to paralyse the Bird from there you can Roost and wish pass or go out to someone else to finish off Zapdos. Electivire and Porygon Z are not really counters as they dislike switching in multiple times.

Also agreeing with Stathakis as to the removal of Scarf Mence, it is a pretty poor late game sweeper lacking some power needed to carry it off effectivly, especially with only a base 80 STAB move to work with. something like a scarf Zapdos / Scarf Gengar will work well, or maybe something fast like an Azelf who also works well as a late game sweeper or you can use to come in and explode should you want to help turn the tide of a battle you are losing. Hope some of this helped :D
 
Tok01 said:
Thanks man. Should I switch Mixleadape to pure physical since Machamp is more of tank and slower and can't really be a physical sweeper? And what's the set for a scarf Zapdos?
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lol, you don't really need a "physical sweeper." that's a misconception many new players make. keep ape mixed, as that's the way to do the most damage.

the scarf zapdos set is like modest, 252 spattack, 252 speed, 4 hp, and then like hp ice or grass, heatwave, thunderbolt, and u-turn. with heatwave, hp grass warrants a slash, and I'd really go for it to help you beat swampert and co. but test both.
 
HP Ice on Zapdos isn't so neccesary. The main reason people use it is to take down Salamence and Dragonite. And I have Slowbro to wall them. Also, should I run Protect over T- Wave on Jirachi? I'm mainly using it as a Special Wall and I'm needing that quick recovery.
 
Your team uses rather useless EV spreads on some Pokemon. You are giving them a rather arbitrary spread, and not using their skills to there full extinct, which is needed on almost every team. The EV spread should be 48 Atk / 252 SpA / 208 Spe. This is to ensure that you are last against opposing Infernape, as the defenses drop will guarantee a OHKO against it. Also, if you are last, you well have very low health so that you can activate Blaze and super-charged Fire Blast to boot.

As for your Slowbro, it is perfectly fine but now we go on to your Machamp. Your Machamp uses to much of a standard spread that does not maximize its capabilities. As Taylor once told, this is the best spread for Machamp: 188 HP / 96 Atk / 216 Def / 8 Spd. This spread hits a Leftovers number, allows you to outspeed all Blisseys, as well as survive many attacks from the physical side of the spectrum. The 96 Atk EVs add some power to your attacks, and help against certain threats such as Zapdos and Gyarados.

Your Porygon-Z should be running 6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Speed, just to take advantage of the extra Effort Values.
 
Thanks, I'll fix that up. I also need some help with my Electivire weakness. I have nothing to stop it.
 
I hate slowbro without T-wave :\.
He has so many weaknesses. So when you calm mind, you still get out sped by everything in the game (not literally) and can still be severely damaged by physical stabs like Heracross, Scizor, T-tar and all of the other things mentioned above.

Why not just use Suicune since you could practically use the same move set minus slack off and get rid of half your weaknesses.
 
I don't have too much to add, except I think timid on P-Z might be helpful to outrun +1 adamant ddmence and revenge them.
 
@Raistmagic. I'll try Suicune (Crocune?). Slowbro is backed up by Jirachi's Thunder Wave, so I may not have to change. It also works great as 'bait'. As you said, Heracross, Scizor and Tyranitar will just run it over. Scarfcross doesn't like ScarfDos (or Scarfmence), Scizor, the same and T-tar runs away from Machamp (except the CB variants that may put a hole in Machamp).

@scofield. Timid is a very worthy option. However, I do lose a lot of power. I'll try it.

I'm thinking of changing Zapdos back to Salamence. The late game sweeper isn't so necessary. + Salamence helps the Scizor kinda weak and the major Electivire weak. E-Vire will just rip through this team without Salamence's EQ.
 
With Slowbro i feel the same way as RaistMagic, since Slowbro is heavily hampered by its psychic typing, which renders it weak to Bug, a very dominant type in the current metagame, mainly because of Scizor. Suicune works perfectly in it's place, but it's set is your preference. Whether you want an immediate threat or a more sturdy wall to fall back on when physical threats come on. try either one of these sets, test them to see whether they work well with your team.

Suicune @ Life Orb
Modest
252 SAtk/252 Spd/4 HP
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- HP Electric

Offensive Suicune that screws over the vappys that come to wall it.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/252 Def/4 HP
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind
- Reflect/Rest

Physical Tank/Pseudo Defense Passer to allow your other members to perform their duties more easily.

you already have a sleep absorber, so i'd advise against crocune.
 
lol, I love how you guys are all scared for slowbro's safety because of "bug being such a dominant type." you do realize he has zapdos who can basically switch into scizor every single time with impunity, wish to keep zapdos healed, thunderwave support for slowbro, AND the semi-perfect tyranitar counter machamp.

as far as everything else you're concerned about, zapdos fares waaaaaaaaaay better against scizor than salamence, so get off the drugs now, and as far as evire, machamp is hardly even scratched by it while delivering pain with dynamicpunch and then resting or getting wished back up to health.

as far as cbtar putting a hole in machamp, he only barely 2HKOs with earthquake, which you can capitalize on by going to zapdos and putting a dent in whatever switches in.
 
I think this is the second time I see this team around. However, this time I will take the time to amke some recommendations.
Infernape:
Yet he is strong he is fragile, you wont like Fire Blast to keep missing so Iw ould rather put Flamethrower in it, its your choice whatsoever.
Jirachi:
It seems good to me, nice support with both wish and thunderwave,t aking the special attacks is an Up, beware of nasty mixed attackers specially those with Flamethrower likes of Arcanine, Salamence, Heatran, or Grass types who tend to carry HP Fire.
Slowbro:
Its ok, not much to say here. Standard Slowbro, I like this poke however most people know its moveset and has became predicable.
Machamp:
Its really creative, the fact of it taking the status for the team is sure a plus, just watch out for spiritomb who can wall him and make it run out of PP with Pressure, also, if you let is set up spiritomb might become a problem here.
Porygon-z:
Standard porygon-z, a revenge killer, not much to do on the team.
Zapdos:
I guess this is your dugtrio counter right? Anyways, I find no purpose for Heat Wave in here, I would ditch it for Roost or Light Screen even Toxic would eb better. Even with the Heat Wave Dragon types will sure wall you so switch HP Grass for HP Ice.
 
i been testing out your team and a swords dancing bullet punching scizor would fill that empty spot or a life orb salamence
 
Wow, I didn't know Team Raters went that far! Thanks! Scizor is now in testing. However, it does mean I'll have a serious speed problem. Maybe put Thunder Wave on Slowbro? Also I had a ScarfMixMence there first, so I dunno? Change it back?
 
no you dont need zen headbutt to beat gengar. With all those sp. def and hp evs, plus paralysis, PLUS 60% chance of flinch with iron head, you don't need zem headbutt.

You aren't utilising jirachi full potential without iron head imo. Slowbro needs max hp and def to takes outrage from mence etc.

So yeah spiritomb walls nearly your whole team, so you absolutely need iron head over zen headbutt. Consider body slam over thunderwave on jirachi as grounds love to switch in to it.
 
@Rahi123. Replacing U-Turn? It actually sounds good, but then Dugtrio will give me trouble, unless it's sandstorm based and has Sand Veil. Panamaxis' idea works.

@Panamaxis. Thanks, it actually works! ^^



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