Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Careful@ 252/252/0/0/0/4
Sucker Punch
Pursuit
Will-O-Wisp
Taunt
Its faster so it can taunt and sucker punch first.
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Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Careful@ 252/252/0/0/0/4
Sucker Punch
Pursuit
Will-O-Wisp
Taunt
Its faster so it can taunt and sucker punch first.
@ Spiritomb
Miltank @ Leftovers
Relaxed nature
Scrappy ability
100 hp, 158 def, 252 atk
Heal Bell
Curse
Brick Break
Return
Starts off faster, allowing it to curse unless you taunt it on the switch. If you wisp it on the switch, Heal Bell. Brick Break hits super effective courtesy of Scrappy. Even without curse, it has high defense and hp to take the attacks.
Miltank @ Leftovers
Relaxed nature
Scrappy ability
100 hp, 158 def, 252 atk
Heal Bell
Curse
Brick Break
Return
Starts off faster, allowing it to curse unless you taunt it on the switch. If you wisp it on the switch, Heal Bell. Brick Break hits super effective courtesy of Scrappy. Even without curse, it has high defense and hp to take the attacks.
Blissey@Lefties
252 HP/ 252 Defence/ 6 w/e
Bold
-Sing
-Seismic Toss
-AromaTherapy
- T-Wave
Set up Sing and Seismic Toss.
T-Tar @ Lum Berry
252 HP EVs 252 Atk EVs
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Sub
Focus Punch
Stone Edge
Crunch
Comes in on... anything. Lum berry cures it of any kind of ailment. Sub blocks future attempts and 101 subs break it.
252 HP EVs 252 Atk EVs
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Sub
Focus Punch
Stone Edge
Crunch
Comes in on... anything. Lum berry cures it of any kind of ailment. Sub blocks future attempts and 101 subs break it.
Heracross @ Choice Band
252 Att, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Close Combat
-Megahorn
-Pursuit
-Stone Edge
Just comes in and uses a choice band close combat.
252 Att, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Close Combat
-Megahorn
-Pursuit
-Stone Edge
Just comes in and uses a choice band close combat.
BLISSEY IS A TERRIBLE COUNTER. DONT USE IT ON EVERY SPECIAL PLEASE.
@Heracross:
Skarmory @ Choice Band
252 HP 220 Atk 36 Def
Brave Bird
Steel Wing
X-Scissor
Drill Peck
Good ol' CB Skarm, now with Hidden Power fucking it over. Switches and kills with either flying STAB. No this isn't "walling any physical with Skarm", Skarmory is a very defensive CB that has a 4x SE move.
@Heracross:
Skarmory @ Choice Band
252 HP 220 Atk 36 Def
Brave Bird
Steel Wing
X-Scissor
Drill Peck
Good ol' CB Skarm, now with Hidden Power fucking it over. Switches and kills with either flying STAB. No this isn't "walling any physical with Skarm", Skarmory is a very defensive CB that has a 4x SE move.
Mantine @ Leftovers
252 HP 4 Def 252 Spdef
Water Absorb
Calm
- Protect
- Toxic
- Aqua Ring
- Surf
Sets up Aqua Ring and slowly kills you with Toxic
@Magnezone
No idea what that guy's 4th move is, but assuming just those 3:
Flygon @ Life Orb
Mild
-Draco Meteor
-Earth Power
-U-Turn
-Flame Thrower
No idea what that guy's 4th move is, but assuming just those 3:
Flygon @ Life Orb
Mild
-Draco Meteor
-Earth Power
-U-Turn
-Flame Thrower
@ Flygon
Mantine @ Leftovers
252 hp, 252 s.def, 6 s.atk
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Rest
Resists Flamethrower and U-Turn, immune to Earthpower, and has the special defense to take a Draco Meteor. Flygon really can't do anything to it, especially after the special attack drop of its only useable attack.
Mantine @ Leftovers
252 hp, 252 s.def, 6 s.atk
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Rest
Resists Flamethrower and U-Turn, immune to Earthpower, and has the special defense to take a Draco Meteor. Flygon really can't do anything to it, especially after the special attack drop of its only useable attack.
Shouldn't the counters listed in this topic be able to switch on anything the opponent might throw at them, with little to no risk, while possing an instant threat themselves? I thought we weren't assuming prediction here, unlike this Pikachu only switching in on a flying resist, since Pidgeot's Return is a definite OHKO. Just wanted to confirm this.
Rodger said:
Qwilfish @ Leftovers
Adamant 6 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Swords Dance
Poison Jab
Hydro Pump
Explosion
Resists everything, sets up in Mantine's face and, with 1 SD up, has a chance to OHKO with Poison Jab (with 2, it OHKOs 100%).
@ Empoleon
Quagsire @ Leftovers
252 hp, 252 def, 6 hp
Water Absorb, Bold nature
- Curse
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Rest
Immune to Empoleon's most powerful attack, and has the defenses to survive its unstabbed neutral effective attacks. Curse increases that defense further as well as increasing its attack. Rests off damage, Earthquake ftw.
Quagsire @ Leftovers
252 hp, 252 def, 6 hp
Water Absorb, Bold nature
- Curse
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Rest
Immune to Empoleon's most powerful attack, and has the defenses to survive its unstabbed neutral effective attacks. Curse increases that defense further as well as increasing its attack. Rests off damage, Earthquake ftw.
Sceptile @ Choice Specs
252 SpAtk, 252 Spd, 4 Def
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power Fire
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast
Can take earthquake and waterfall. Leaf storm owns it.
This is going to be so fun.
@ sceptile
Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold@ 148/0/252/104/0/4
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Ice Beam
Softboiled
In my experience, Blissey is about the best counter to this thing. Comes in on anything, and hits back with freezing cold justice. Even Focus Blast does a paltry 30-36%(a 4KO)
@ sceptile
Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold@ 148/0/252/104/0/4
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Ice Beam
Softboiled
In my experience, Blissey is about the best counter to this thing. Comes in on anything, and hits back with freezing cold justice. Even Focus Blast does a paltry 30-36%(a 4KO)
Dugtrio @ Life Orb
Jolly
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SDef
- Sucker Punch
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace
traps and kills.
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