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The Everything NHL Thread

Justin8649 said:
It is clear to me that you didn't watch this game. The Devils completely missed an empty net on 3 occasions that I can remember. Clarkson fired it over the net when Quick was basically taking a nap on the ice. Later on Clarkson put a rebound about 80 feet wide when 80% of the net was open. Fayne also missed putting a rebound into an empty net. The game went to overtime. It isn't like the Devils got blown out. They are clearly capable of winning whether Kovalchuk scores or not.
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So your point is that the Devils missed 3 empty nets, and they were unable to score 2 goals in more than 60 minutes...yet that means their offense is "capable" without Kovie? Even though they couldn't score when the goalie was "taking a nap"? That sounds pretty freakin' incompetent to me. How much easier can it realistically get than 3 open nets? You're proving my point for me...
 
I've seen plenty of good players miss empty nets. It just happens. As hard as it is to believe, everybody makes mistakes.

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Both teams played like ass, both could've won in OT and not deserved it. And if any of you read the postgame interviews, you'll notice that players and coaches from both teams admitted openly that neither team played well and really took the game definitively. As expected, the game was won on a poorly-defended play, a complete brainfart by Zubrus.
 
Who cares about the Stanley Cup.....Lidstrom is gone.

I was drunk as fuck when I watched the retirement video (came out late at night here) so I basically almost shamelessly cried in my room while watching it.

He's earned his nick(hehehe)name "the perfect human". He's been arguably the best offensive and defensive D in recent memory. He's also one of the classiest players, he has taken less penalties in 20 years than most players take within the first couple years of theirs. Shows you don't need to be whining to the refs and being excessively violent to lead your team.

He'll be missed and hopefully more players turn out like him.

I guess I'll still watch the finals....
 
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^adorable :3

And btw Kovie has 3 shots on goal, 0 points and the Devils have 2 goals total in almost 140 minutes. Who could have seen that coming? Keep hatin' haters
 
I read the string of about 10 people insulting me when I said that the Devils wouldn't win a game unless Kovie went insane, yes.
 
Both of these games went to overtime. In overtime Quick could just turn around and put it in his own net and the Devils would win. They could be up 2-0 right now with 0 points from Kovalchuck if Quick wasn't so good. Your assessment was not a good one. If you want to look at the stats without any kind of analysis or understanding of how overtime works then; yes, you have been right so far. But that's like if I had said, "The Devils won't win unless Brodeur scores eight goals a game." So far he hasnt done that and they haven't won. I must be right.
 
Wikey said:
Both of these games went to overtime. In overtime Quick could just turn around and put it in his own net and the Devils would win. They could be up 2-0 right now with 0 points from Kovalchuck if Quick wasn't so good. Your assessment was not a good one.
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"could be". "aren't". same thing, right?

Wikey said:
But that's like if I had said, "The Devils won't win unless Brodeur scores eight goals a game." So far he hasnt done that and they haven't won. I must be right.
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Saying something with absolutely no basis in reality is completely the same as a statistically-backed opinion that the Devils offense might be dependent on their best offensive player. I don't know how I didn't see it before.

Whatever, I'm done here. We'll see if I was right after the series ends, then you guys can pile on the insults some more if I was.
 
Gotta imagine the big winner there is Boston, since by November or so people should finally stop talking about Tim Thomas and let them be a hockey team. They've got plenty of young talent waiting to step in anyway. Though I'm going to agree with the tinfoil hats and say that there's probably more involvement as far as the Bruins brass here leading to that decision rather than just this being another chapter of Tim Thomas: Clinically Insane. In spite of this, have to enjoy the fact he genuinely thinks he has even the slightest chance of starting on the US Olympic team next year, which I don't think has a chance of occurring even if he plays next year given how much more using Quick or Schneider would help the program moving forward and that they'd be pretty much equivalent options if all on top of their games.




Also feeling good about my choice of fantasy keeper defensemen based on the SCF eat it haters.
 
So, Luongo was spotted in Toronto, visiting the Leafs' head physician. The source is reliable or unreliable depending on how you look at it; for example, he broke the Kassian-Hodgson swap 20 minutes before any reliable trade source (Dreger, Mckenzie etc) did, got all the pieces correct (Gragnani, Sulzer) but he's only reported 4 trades (3 of which were correct), and to boot, apparently this kid is a high school kid (with "sources") or whatever. Other people apparently saw him in Toronto but they're all unverified. Take it with a grain of salt.

If we do trade, I'm not expecting Toronto's 5th (Canucks fans are high on something if they are), but I am expecting at least Schenn, and the highest I'll reach is Gardiner (which I still doubt but whatever, guy got to have dreams).

Fuck this offseason is going to be a long one.
 
I'm not one to gawk, well, actually yes I am.

Heysup said:
Consider this, Schneider is too old to be a backup right now and he's undeniably good enough to be a #1 goalie. I promise that the Canucks won't be this lucky next year; they'll have to pick one of the two for salary reasons. Who do you think they'll keep when it really matters?
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Eraddd said:
For Christ's sakes, get off Schneider's dick. He's 25, and hasn't even played a full NHL career, and you're claiming he's the second coming of Jesus Christ of the Canucks.

They'll have to pick one or the other. It'll either be Schneider chooses to resign (slim as fuck), or we'll have to ship him out, because Gillis has shown that Luongo is his man, and quite frankly, isn't as short sighted as casual fairweather Canucks fans.
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That is all.
 
I personally never thought Luongo would get traded (and I still stand by my argument that Luongo is still a better goaltender compared to Schneider at the moment, but that could all change (and probably will in 2 years about) depending on how fast and how high Schneider fills his potential). Almost all of Gillis' moves have essentially honored players' contracts (due to his extensive experience as a player agent) and I doubt it was his idea to ship out Luongo. If you knew Gillis' extensive history dealing with contracts as a player agent, and as a GM, it's highly unlikely that Gillis would attempt to move a huge contract like Luongo's (with the NMC added to boot) unless there was consent on the otherside. It's more that I feel Luongo has had enough of Vancouver and he realises the fact that the Canucks will want to move to a younger goaltender whose upside is arguably Luongo and potentially even better. Even if he doesn't get traded, I still won't mind, since Schneider will fetch a good price on the market (better than what Luongo would get in my mind), and it'll upgrade the Canucks either way, or they'll play a goaltender-duo (highly unlikely but stranger things have occurred).

In summary, the only reason why I believed Luongo would be our starting goaltender was because of his contract; at that point in time, I still believed that Luongo was better than Schneider based on his experience and time spent in the NHL, compared to Schneider's relative inexperience (back up goalies with stellar stats haven't always reached their "ceiling."). Obviously, my views have shifted a bit, and I'm not as leery of Schneider's inexperience (performance in the playoffs was stellar regardless of the results) and he'll be a great fit if Luongo chooses to leave. Gillis would never ship out Luongo unless both sides came to a mutual agreement, and I guess they both have, and Schneider will get the call next year.
 
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