yo I just see this topic, sorry if I'm late to the party so eh I can only say so much that isn't repeated a million times by now
If you ban the Normals for being too good and the Psychics for being too good and Wrap and Sleep and... Uhh, you're just playing UU now.
Looks like everyone else already noticed and this topic became a shitshow real quick, though.
Snorlax isn't even that bulky when you consider that most Psychics usually 3HKO it (with Special drops or crits, though Zam can without), most physical attackers 3HKO it, and it's slower than everything so it's always going to get hit twice (or eat status from even the likes of Eggy and Lapras) before firing off an attack if not double switched in. It can hard even beat Chansey since that's just a Freeze waiting to happen. It's honestly insane how overrated Snorlax is, it's only "good" because Selfdestruct ultimately near-guarantees it trades when it inevitably does nothing else useful. Why does Snorlax always checks Snorlax? It's not really because Snorlax is oh-so-unstoppable, it's because Snorlax is the worst mon on most people's teams to give up the trade. It's uncool when Lax chunks 85% out of your Tauros because Tauros is actually good... eh, just throw your own Lax at it instead.
Lax rant done, more generally you just seem to hate Normal-types for not interacting much with the type chart. Zam is a better duelist than Tauros, it just isn't as good a cleaner in the context of a 6v6 match because its fellow Psychic types all resist one another, plus Chansey being Chansey, whereas Tauros doesn't resist Tauros. The biggest threat Chansey presents is that it'll eventually Freeze something, since it sure isn't actually killing anything. The Psychics are just as broken as the Normals, the only difference is that they keep each other in check instead of tear each other apart.
Sleep is obviously broken, that's literally why Sleep Clause exists. Broken enough to ban entirely? Eh. Sleep move distribution is low (choice in teambuilding), they're inaccurate (initial risk), and there is even some strategy in the players trying to maneuver their switches in such a way as to minimize its negative impact on their battle plans. I don't like how the modern metagame has developed into basically sleep leads + Zam but I don't consider dislike for whether I think something should be banned.
If you ban the Normals for being too good and the Psychics for being too good and Wrap and Sleep and... Uhh, you're just playing UU now.
Looks like everyone else already noticed and this topic became a shitshow real quick, though.14-16 slots problem solved and literally everyone on this website that isn't part of the TD team seems to want this.
Snorlax isn't even that bulky when you consider that most Psychics usually 3HKO it (with Special drops or crits, though Zam can without), most physical attackers 3HKO it, and it's slower than everything so it's always going to get hit twice (or eat status from even the likes of Eggy and Lapras) before firing off an attack if not double switched in. It can hard even beat Chansey since that's just a Freeze waiting to happen. It's honestly insane how overrated Snorlax is, it's only "good" because Selfdestruct ultimately near-guarantees it trades when it inevitably does nothing else useful. Why does Snorlax always checks Snorlax? It's not really because Snorlax is oh-so-unstoppable, it's because Snorlax is the worst mon on most people's teams to give up the trade. It's uncool when Lax chunks 85% out of your Tauros because Tauros is actually good... eh, just throw your own Lax at it instead.
Lax rant done, more generally you just seem to hate Normal-types for not interacting much with the type chart. Zam is a better duelist than Tauros, it just isn't as good a cleaner in the context of a 6v6 match because its fellow Psychic types all resist one another, plus Chansey being Chansey, whereas Tauros doesn't resist Tauros. The biggest threat Chansey presents is that it'll eventually Freeze something, since it sure isn't actually killing anything. The Psychics are just as broken as the Normals, the only difference is that they keep each other in check instead of tear each other apart.
Sleep is obviously broken, that's literally why Sleep Clause exists. Broken enough to ban entirely? Eh. Sleep move distribution is low (choice in teambuilding), they're inaccurate (initial risk), and there is even some strategy in the players trying to maneuver their switches in such a way as to minimize its negative impact on their battle plans. I don't like how the modern metagame has developed into basically sleep leads + Zam but I don't consider dislike for whether I think something should be banned.
Does there need to be another reason? I don't like how we're trying to change SPL into something it originally wasn't. The whole point was to play all OUs in a standard team format, a spiritual successor to the Sneak tournies of old or to be seen as a non-regional version of the old interboard tournies and WCOP. RBY OU should be kept in SPL because it's literally not SPL anymore if you change it, it's just a new tourney with the same label.
Don't blame the tier for team managers having severe brain damage to where they don't even buy good, regular players of the tier.
