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NOC The Mafia Invitational (Game Thread) [D2 Deadline: Friday, March 2nd, 6 PM EST]
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I can't stop thinking about Josh getting lynch on MS's screaming without wanting to make a very blue joke.
Put your vote on, it’ll help, maybe it will happen since it’s so close to deadlineas long as we don't turbo the doctor we're doing better than serenes forest dot net
wrt Knight's "someone being informed of a role existing would be broken" I've seen roles like this multiple times on SF, it's not inherently broken
now that we've established amrock is scum, do we lynch him?
wrt Walrein I can also confirm he was playing league/slay the spire like 24/7 when he was my scumbuddy in a recent game
One thing that's nagging me about Josh v MetalSonic is Josh repeatedly saying Metal Sonic is lying, despite having a town leaning read on him (he mentions late in the argument that he's starting to think Sonic might be scum). Normally when someone I'm townreading is tunneling/scumreading me for bad reasons I don't think of them as liars, since that implies I think they have ill intent (aka are scum). When Josh was under fire in Cyberpunk Mafia because people thought he was a Robot I also felt like his word choice/tone was more in line with what I would expect from a villager who is super frustrated with a dumb case on them (I was dead during that debacle but I wasn't informed beyond knowing he was telling the truth about no Asek claim and I knew Walrein had been sheeted so the "only flyhn+MS on sheet both are scum" train was inaccurate, so I didn't for sure know he was town).
otoh I feel like DLE's posts were good, esp the part where he was going into work but still took the time to comment on recent events. I sort of feel like scum DLE would take the opportunity to just bail again?
Man maybe Josh is the best lynch today......
Use the bold tags
I'm going to try this one last time. If you have a reply to me know I won't respond until tomorrow for the sake of focusing.
1) I quoted examples of me responding to you before you called me out for not responding to you. That's what my quotes were. About half of your game related posts before page 13 I replied to. You quoted unrelated things back and called me scum, and then dropped it when I replied to those.
2) I engaged with you, again, on half of your game related posts by page 13. At page 13, you called me scum for not engaging with you.
3) This is what we call "bad or scum?". You set yourself up to scumread me in the future. Either I reply and engage with you and am scum trying to appear townie and appease you, or I don't engage with you and I'm scum furthering your point. It's a lose lose scenario. I have engaged with you on every opportunity possible; fv stuff, reads, gamestate. I am very limited because you are so 100% convinced I am scum or you are scum tunnelling me because you know you can keep that tunnel up due to me not being lynchable giving you an excuse to not have to solve. It could be the former very well, and that's what most people think so that's what we will operate under.
4) Assuming it's the former, actually take your tiny head out of your massive ass and try to reevaluate. You cased me in reply to Paperblade. Not a single person supported your casing and iirc maybe 4 or 5 said it was bad reasoning. Regardless, gained no traction.
5) And before you misrep that argument for the 3rd or 4th time, read. That does not mean I am town. It means you have a faulty argument, though. If those are the reasons I'm scum, then yes, I'm probably town. If you have other reasons, you need to give them, because not a single person has agreed with anything you've said about me ever (for the most part) and considering just how much of your content I am that's not good.
6) You haven't given a serious reply to this: if I'm so good at scum, what did you catch in the first 13 pages? I'll even be generous and say 18. What did I do by page 18 that made you not consider me as town for the remainder of the game? Your argument doesn't make sense, because you say things like "Proph be weary of Josh he's great at scum" and yet say I'm "easy" and don't actually argue why.
Who are 1 and 2? huh? lol
my reads this game suck
too many posts + people I'm unfamiliar with when a lot of my play involves getting in people's heads and trying to determine if someone would do X as scum + a ton of posts that feel like fluff/filler (did we really need 50 posts of a discussion about some dude from other mafia sites?)
maybe it'll get better in later phases
vote josh
yolo
I'll be around for deadline short of some IRL emergency
Mmmmm yea I can’t sheep that
me and you obviously! Lol!
I made a giant post with exactly 3 people in my scumpile, and you ask me such a dumb question? Trying to shade me? Fuck you!
Deadline in 5.5h. Reminder that hammer must occur before deadline and can occur at any point prior
I need a claim. If FV does not target me tonight, they may not be town. I'm trying to avoid talking about this for a reason.
Your funeral.
1. See my big post on dle, p much my exact stance how I'd view his current behavior being kept up all day.
2. It the pièce de résistance! Also yes he should have continued fighting me because then it would have been more fun.
3. I disagree with FH for the same reason I disagree with twin, it's not helpful when low activity people who didn't push anything start jumping on others in the same situation, FH's is just a bit more subtly presented, which actually can be worse than twins(in fact I previously glossed over that post)
4. No, I won't lynch solely on non activity day 1. That's for day 2+
5. So while I think Josh gave adequat answers to my questions, I still end up with two problems. One is the big post he made where he reacts MS jumping on him initially, and gets more and more agitated. In the post originally he had made posts that implied he had knowledge of the entire thread before posting it and has in answering my questions admitted he did skim the thread first. This leads me to question the authenticity of his escalation of emotions towards MS. At this point I don't doubt it was faked, but don't think it's 100% of the time scummy, simply because Josh didn't shy off from being manipulative in the game to begin with. On the other hand the fact he can with a straight face say Josh should drop him because people don't buy it therefore it's false. Now I made similar claims(never that MS was wrong, just that the Josh push by MS was pointless if it's not convincing anyone), but I'm an outsider in the argument, not the accused, and I do not think in a million years that this is a reasonable choice for defending one self. The fact in questioning Josh while he was catching up he admitted he already saw I made a similar argument(which adds fuel to the fire that he would have known in his MS is pushing me catch up that MS had been pushing him) taints the idea as piggybacking of an argument that I was trying to drill into MS. This is why I want both Josh and MS to associate with something else thn their vendettas and fruit cases, so I can see them interact with other situations and my pool of reads is not coming from the same thing over and over.
5.5. Worth checking.
6. Because all of them suck! I see town reads in general pointless unless extremely assured by interactions with now deceased players. Not to mention I expressed doubt towards all of them. In general I don't like town reads, because just like with scum reads you can bias yourself into reading people positively even if they mess up.
Stop fucking wasting time on discussing a massive wifom, when the only thing obvious from it is that we either drop it or fruit vendor claims and then we murderate Josh after he makes his piece. Wasting time discussing this is what scum want.
This is so watered down that I have to go pee after reading this. Yeti is not acting like an obvious scum therefore is town. Josh is off hiking instead of scumhunting, null. Twin has been replaced by his twin because he ain't playing like I expect him to, scum. Nothing here gave me anything new, and some of it is literal repeats I have heard from others. There is no effort in pushing anyone slightly null, not even Josh when the complaint is his entire day 1 is useless for scumhunting. This is extremely passive. If the game doesn't throw me a curveball, I'm voting KoC's ass at the end of my post.
Subbing of a potential lynch, my favourite.
Gee, and you vote a person who peaced out just as you did, I better see something reasonable in the future of the thread.
You can do whatever you want, and we can call you out for it. It's the cycle of hypocrisy. The problem is when the thing you are voting someone for applies to you too, then you are pushing something allignment unindicative or are trying to distract from yourself(look at HIM, he is just as bad as me). That's either unhelpful and pointless, or scummy, and I want to see neither.
Blobs ain't allignment indicative, it's just a Yeti thing being a Yeti thing. That does not change that they made your early day 1 pointless to read and their meaning can be explained later however it suits your needs. It's not a scumtell, but if you are scum it's gonna make your life easier, so I want to make your life hard again in case you are scum. Ergo fulfill my request and explain that blob read list where you listed everyone in order and give me you reasonings as to why you thought those placements were waranted at the time of said post. Not every blob user is scum, but every scum would benefit from blob posting.lightwolf uses a lot of words to say "but what do the blobs MEAN" and its like are u shading me for this? do u think i'm mafia using blobs to make my posts hard to understand? u think i need that? lmao. lw dont b bad.
uses a lot of words about MS too. i'm also interested that lw agrees with josh's FV claim plan etc but is stil llike i'll vote josh until he answers my questions and if he doesn't i lynch anyway. it feels like there's a disconnect between lw supporting a josh plan and lw not scumreading josh but still being just fine to lynch him.
also the goonwolf in matrix and a game he subbed into on mu hid behind big catchup wallposts that look exactly like that
stay woke fam
Also I always do big catchup posts, it's just the nature of being an european and waking up to pages of content that happened while I was asleep. It also allows me to collect my thoughts better since everything is in one place. I actually believe it's better for most people too, as in cases of rereads my thoughts can not be missed or glanced over in a skim, so it's much harder to misconstruct my position if one is not inherently trying to do so. There is no scumwolf, there is no townwolf, there is only I LightWolf.
There were some early Josh votes, but the general concensus has been that after the whole ms vs josh thing, most read both a town and people would rather see where the fruit thing is going than lynch Josh first. I mean correct me with a read that lists Josh as a lynchable where the pool isn't 3/4 of the game. Not to mention who bveyond me has attempted to pressure Josh after MS digged his claws into him? People have been fairly content in leaving the two just arguing.
That's exactly what a vampire would say!
Thanks for reminding me of that DLE post, I forgot about it since it was right before my big post. Where the other 30 pages(at this point) at DLE?
OHHH NOOOOOO, you did... not miss... deadline??? That's uh sad? I hope someone called Walrein out at the time on why he sounds disappointed that he didn't miss day 1.
This was near the end of Saturday, with 48 hours left why in gods name push towards such a small circle of supported lynches? Especially drop out your personal suspect because some town read him, at least Josh tried to make a to Josh before he went ballistic despite the general concensus. Plenty of time to explore KoC more if you don't like him, and way too early to narrow the lynch down to essentiall 3 people with low post counts, with one in another game and another a sub.
Reactions are fun, but maybe reply to your major suspect as to why you want them lynched? You certainly ain't doing much to convince me to drop a Former Vote(the DLE and KoC stuff is working though).
Going after other low posters for low posting? I'm sure you don't know the feeling? Asek let me borrow that stockings gif
Not to go into semantics, but that literally would mean he is a bad scum, and therefore his redeemining quality is it's painfully obvious which allignment he is? I'm not saying this is the case btw, I'm saying that is essentially what Walrein is saying here. Also quoted this to ask, why the hell are you supporting this discussion when you should be catching up?
What have I told you about linking your Josh read at the end of all your posts? To not make your every post into just a Josh push... Josh may or may not get lynched today, WHO DO YOU LYNCH THEN.
What MS said, what is the point of this post, announcing that you will not be busy Sunday after never announcing you'd be busy on sunday? This feels like look at me I'm posting!
What is the point of doing this. Any scum could just hide their status. This is nothing but a I'm active post like the above. What is the point of asking Pblade to post meaningful shit instead of posting meaningful shit?
Quoted because the post I wanted to quote is just quotes, you can see it above this post. I agree with Yeti there completely, and therefore think it's a bad example of what you are trying you are trying to prove. Hypocrisy is hypocrisy, and I responded at that DLE post in this post so look at that for more.
Can Yeti be town if Walrein is scum? As in from your point of view at the time of that post. Also this Empoof MS mindmeld rubs me the wrong way, especially after the Empoof vs MS early on. The only problem is both together don't work for scumxscum, so I have to question if one of you ain't trying to butter the other here.
If you are gonna post post numbers, link them while at it, gah. As for Yeti and Knights, I agree and have called both out on such posts in this very post. Elaborate on what the Josh lynch has to do with this?I like Proph's 1175 and 1176
I'm starting to get uncomfortable with the group of people who are posting a lot but feel like they're not really talking about anything--mostly Yeti and Knights.
Yeti complaining about lurkers when I don't even remember her reads on most active players is kind of ??? I don't really know what she thinks about me/empoof/ms/josh/asek other than that I guess she doesn't want to lynch us? I sort of feel like the walrein push is weak
I can't really parse what Knights is trying to say half the time which bugs me
I would include Walrein but he has the SCUM ANXIETIES and I feel like his tone is much better here compared to the game I played with him like a few weeks ago where he was mafia.
I'm willing to give Moody some time. While twin wasn't playing to his town meta, it is possible he's just burnt out with NOC or something so with the change of player slot
unvote
man maybe sonic was right and we should just lynch josh
why would anyone do this to themselves?
no They were not, go back quote them and tell us what they said. I didn't even get when you said Food Night, even though that was actually spelled correctly.
Nothing good comes from towncores expect for scum members of it. Doesn't matter how clear people look if they can't make an argument why to lynch someone, or point at the wrong person, and all goes to hell if one of them is scum. I will rip all of you a new butthole if I feel like it.
Wooo third place!!!
The fact he made Former the Latter is unforgivable.
Why do you feel the need to defend twin's actions? Serious question about your mindset as a sub,
I literally took the format of Would/n't Lynch from the champs game though... I literally did the same thing on so many levels lol.
Disagree on a lot, but I'm happy an idler is actually doing shit instead of commiting canibalism. Prophs for that.(Yes I quoted this for the pun)
I swear if I don't see anything more substantial out of you, you are TOAST.
No. A man can hope you have been afk till now and no one else answered!
Having consumed a lot of the thread in such a short burst, you haven't done anything to lead anyone to any maj.
I feel knights has been latching onto any chance to post where it doesn't require much of a personal stance people would object to. No Lynch is bad Mmmkay? Not that this post by Yeti is much different.
This wagon smells, not because I don't wanna lynch DLE today(that's really only because of my experience with him), as I abhore his performance today and would gladly lynch him over it tomorrow, but in the end this is nothing but let's lynch inactives. The poor man's lynch.
It's not hard making blanket statements, it's hard actually doing what those blanket statements ask for. No point screaming wagonomics when you haven't advocated for a lynch seriously since what, your read post?
Just quoting a random post to express disappointment that we are back to spending a page discussing JOSH IS SCUM FRUIT CASE CLAIM.
+++ for trying to end the shit show, --- for not reading my post saying I'm going to sleep lol.
Maybe if you play HotS with me.
Went AFK after going to sleep after getting home, did no one read my I sleep when you guys post post yesterday?
Blargh. I'm not giving this a moment of attention, anyone selfaware enough about their playstyle to make such a list will be working towards fixing their scum game to match their town game and avoiding any previous mistakes. This to me is a waste of space, and most certainly won't convince MS either. Prove yourself by maybe pushing something that isn't a Fruit Cart.
Speaking of this, I Asek never seemed to acknowledge my points. Speaking speaking of that, Metal Sonic you said you'd look at Asek, what up on that front.
At least you posting, but shit why aren't you telling them to stop. This is idiotic at this point, and all being gained from this is free scum idles.
As a rereader. Yeah Former can't be considered a Walrein, Twin or DLE level idler anymore. In the past maybe, but besides early activity, he is on par with people who ain't spamming.
Disagree, while the segments are short, and some of the reads lacking, they reflect a much more honest attitude and and way of reading people than what DLE and KoC have put forth.
You literally proposed a lynch between 3 idlers at the time when you made that proposal. See this is the keep on throwing on shit regardless of the quality of the argument I was talking about, not to mention there iss a scum lean on Yeti in those reads completely ignored by you.
YOU HAVE MADE ME SO PROUD. THUMBS UP. Now if we can correct those 3-4 wasted pages of Joshing around...
Nevermind Metal Sonic found the Asek followup!
No I don't, the literal only content beside me arguing with MS about how he is going about his Josh post and how unhelpful it is to me reading either of them, the only content I have outside of my big post was the small thing inbetween the MS argument about my suspicions on you Asek, which again you failed to acknowledge. You can't call my MS arguments content outside of that, because it was, it's safe to be open about it, mostly a reaction test nitpicking contest. That being said I'm still cross about him reverting back to playing Heavy Rain and pressing x to JOOOOOOOOSH. And FH's read list is a completely different style of mine, the comparision made here is just another example of throwing more and more shade at your target regardless of the validity of said shade.
This the big MS read post, I'm sparing you guys the big quote because it's that recent. I'm mostly just here to say while I disagree wit hhis additional choices, am happy he diversified, and look forward to scum reading his ass in the future. Also look at those linked posts, need more of that.
Oy, I don't townread no one, to me people are scum and less likely to be scum.
Deadline is coming up, let's stear discussion back to the validity of the FV claim. Legit.
up to date now will vote in new post.
I'm gonna forgo the blue joke for the serious opinion underneath.
If I end up vopting into the A V. B I'd be voting MS because the alternative might lead to three pages of Metal crowing about he's more GOAT than Haruno, Yeti, Light, and Mendelde (Kong player, dw) combined.
If I end up vopting into the A V. B I'd be voting MS because the alternative might lead to three pages of Metal crowing about he's more GOAT than Haruno, Yeti, Light, and Mendelde (Kong player, dw) combined.
Lw town
Vote KnightsOfCydonia
Reasons should be obv from above, but yall lazy(do not dare to ask me about anything I talked about above, unless you want more on what I did up there and show clear understanding you read the above). He is filler, he was born in the filler, his full name is KnightsOfillerCydonia. His posting did not evolve beyond the RVS stage, and it feels clear he is just posting at times for the sake of getting posts in(hey guys it's Sunday, I'm not going to church, AMA).
Reasons should be obv from above, but yall lazy(do not dare to ask me about anything I talked about above, unless you want more on what I did up there and show clear understanding you read the above). He is filler, he was born in the filler, his full name is KnightsOfillerCydonia. His posting did not evolve beyond the RVS stage, and it feels clear he is just posting at times for the sake of getting posts in(hey guys it's Sunday, I'm not going to church, AMA).
Haven't read the above yet. Was typing out my opinion on the A v B when you posted.
Light, you're asking the armchair quarterback to rush into the blitz before first down.
I love lightwoof
Yup read all of that
Yup read all of that
LightWolf if iDLE is more often town than scum, and WalrAFK is more often scum than town, and the page I randomly plop on has empoof and Yeti — the two people who have the best sense of recent Walrein NOC meta — suspecting/voting walrein, and walrein is bad at scum and bad at handling vote pressure, there’s a distinct difference between a dle vote and a walrein vote (especially from my perspective!)
Just saw this post
In the interests of deadline.. and lw unvoting josh, and although I love paperblade for voting with us I don’t think this can hit 7 people...
Out you go
Vote KoC
LW has two posts that feel town, they are both the lenght of half an usual page.
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