Hitmonleet said:
Because I listened to other people's advice, looked things over again, and changed my opinion. I don't see anything shady there.
Once again, people's feelings change on things with a reread.
Yes people can change their minds. But when people go from praising a thing to high heavens to thinking it kinda looks bad to outright disliking it, then you either lied at first or you are Saint Paul. Did english really have no word for heelturn until wrestling? Either way you ain't no Saint Paul, so therefore I am calling out your overly positive read of asek's post as a lie, because you don't call something spectacular, put it in italics and not even read it just to turn on it due to peer pressure from people shitting on your read to conform to the general concensus.
Okay, name a game you are basing my activity patterns on that made you sure enough to lynch me was the right decision. Then you can go on and counter the actual argument I made, that whatever happened your read on me would have died. Then please explain why your strongest read was an idler. And then explain how you'd actually justify the lynch of confirmed idler called out by the host multiple times confirming the NAI of the idling in question.Hitmonleet said:
I was actually suspicious of yall -_-. Of the idlers, your lack of even a deep post made you
, which was an irregular thing, since, as far as I remember, you're normally at least slightly active outside of wallposts. Yeti was an OMGUS, but I'm still suspicious of her.
I wanted to at least get people to not lynch town, since, as you can see, I started to think Proph was town over time, and you were shady and previously an attempted lynch, so I felt it'd be better to lynch you.
Hitmonleet said:
I changed my mind on Proph, and, like I've stated, you normally post at least something relevant and useful, which you didn't. Then you engage in a paragraph's worth of useless speculation and theorization.
I wanted to at least get people to not lynch town, since, as you can see, I started to think Proph was town over time, and you were shady and previously an attempted lynch, so I felt it'd be better to lynch you.
People's thoughts change, dude. That's common. I'm normally a bit conflicted about my thoughts and reads when I'm town, so I flip flop a lot. Is it shady at times? Yes. To literally cite your own advice to me: "if you are a villager nothing you actually do is scummy. This is fact, others may read it as such, but I personally believe as long as you have the village!s interest in your mind, you can't be scummy." I believed it would be in the village's interest to not lynch either Proph or I, as I thought we were both town. Thus, I flip flopped and tried to get you lynched at the end, because I believed that was the best option at the time.
That's nice and dandy but in the same paragraph you you stated you'd vote proph to self preserve, rendering any defense you tried to bring up for him moot, and it makes it clear your intention was not to move the lynch off proph, but off you. As I stated everyone who voted me previously was to vote you, this was not a lynch meant to convince Proph voters, and you admiting you knew there were people willing to vote me confirms you were perfectly aware WHO these people were and where their votes were going. Everything about that setup stinks of informed scum trying to seem cleaner after the lynch by calling Proph town, while trying to lower chances of getting lynched themselves. Your actions make sense from a purely selfish or a scum perspective, not a town one. And since you are willing to pretend it's a town perspective, that all the more leads me to it being a scum one.
Since you seem to have an obsession with pidgeonholing me as town, explain this: Why do I, as scum, have all the people who townread me killed in quick succession? That makes absolutely no logical sense, from a scum perspective. Why don't I instead remove, say, Yeti or Asek? Both of them were suspicious of me, so I'd kill them before killing off basically the only reasons why I survived D1.LightWolf said:
Yes people can change their minds. But when people go from praising a thing to high heavens to thinking it kinda looks bad to outright disliking it, then you either lied at first or you are Saint Paul. Did english really have no word for heelturn until wrestling? Either way you ain't no Saint Paul, so therefore I am calling out your overly positive read of asek's post as a lie, because you don't call something spectacular, put it in italics and not even read it just to turn on it due to peer pressure from people shitting on your read to conform to the general concensus.
Okay, name a game you are basing my activity patterns on that made you sure enough to lynch me was the right decision. Then you can go on and counter the actual argument I made, that whatever happened your read on me would have died. Then please explain why your strongest read was an idler. And then explain how you'd actually justify the lynch of confirmed idler called out by the host multiple times confirming the NAI of the idling in question.
That's nice and dandy but in the same paragraph you you stated you'd vote proph to self preserve, rendering any defense you tried to bring up for him moot, and it makes it clear your intention was not to move the lynch off proph, but off you. As I stated everyone who voted me previously was to vote you, this was not a lynch meant to convince Proph voters, and you admiting you knew there were people willing to vote me confirms you were perfectly aware WHO these people were and where their votes were going. Everything about that setup stinks of informed scum trying to seem cleaner after the lynch by calling Proph town, while trying to lower chances of getting lynched themselves. Your actions make sense from a purely selfish or a scum perspective, not a town one. And since you are willing to pretend it's a town perspective, that all the more leads me to it being a scum one.
Alright, screw it, Unvote Vote Lightwolf.
I don't like these posts one bit. For one thing, the "questions" you make are literally just chains of rhetorical ones. For another, you shift from overall coverage to suddenly and directly attacking me to near exclusion of anyone else. Finally, you throw around so much scum that you'd get a house condemned. It reeks of trying to sow suspicions and keep us distracted.
Hey guys, Hitmonleet just claimed he is the only scum in the whole game so he has total control over the kills and picks who to kill based on what benefits him! He also thinks that killing of people who specifically suspect him would be a great move, and the two killed people have not been a person who completely tunneled in on a town and was eleminated before he could reevaluate his position and a mason who was somehow called out for mason slipping in the first few pages.Hitmonleet said:
Since you seem to have an obsession with pidgeonholing me as town, explain this: Why do I, as scum, have all the people who townread me killed in quick succession? That makes absolutely no logical sense, from a scum perspective. Why don't I instead remove, say, Yeti or Asek? Both of them were suspicious of me, so I'd kill them before killing off basically the only reasons why I survived D1.
Alright, screw it, Unvote Vote Lightwolf.
I don't like these posts one bit. For one thing, the "questions" you make are literally just chains of rhetorical ones. For another, you shift from overall coverage to suddenly and directly attacking me to near exclusion of anyone else. Finally, you throw around so much scum that you'd get a house condemned. It reeks of trying to sow suspicions and keep us distracted.
Okay firstly, I'm not tunneling you, I made a big post, at the end of which I suspected you the msot for your day 1 play, so I voted you. You replied to my post's relevant to you statements. I then replied to those replies myself and pointed out how I found them lacking and asked followup questions. If that is tunneling, when I gave the EXACT SAME TREATMENT to AG who questioned parts of it, you really think you can call this TUNNELING.
You are overreacting out of your butt right now, and instead of addressing my problems with you, you are painting what I have done since finalyl posting as tunneling you. Then you somehow try to reason that I suspect too many people, man am I tunneling you or am I suspecting too many people?
If you have no intention of addressing my problems with you, then I will just take that as an admission of guilt.
There, did the work for you, reply to this collective Hitmon
