NOC The Mafia Invitational Redux Game Thread - GAME OVER

[Panic Station]

Gonna collate Moody's posts by interactions so I don't have to stare at 20+ tabs anymore. Scum first.

 

[Panic Station]

Moody on Asek

actually wanted to lynch this d3 rather than d2 and look into lightwolf/asek today but would have lynched either way
hope you weren't pulling mindgames with your "why was I not recruited" post

ok it is 1 AM and I mostly skimmed through pages so I cannot go into isos/detail rn this is pretty much where I'm at

Knights
FH

Hitmonleet
Yeti

DLE
Lightwolf
Asek

At this point in time I want to lynch in Asek/Lightwolf as I believe this to be the poe where we will find at least one mafian
if we don't we will lose and deserve it

More coherent things to come tomorrow

if Asek is mafia I would look at DLE getting MS to L-1 differently (yes there is some irony to be found here) and drop that into the lynch pool
don't think FH is ever mafia with Asek here after he appeared to be jumping to conclusions regarding Texas' call to lynch Asek

Asek had a post pushing back against the MS lynch when he was a big candidate to be lynched instead so I'm not as confident with that lynch

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You went from the AG/Lw/Asek pool to a AG/Moody/Leet one and I have no idea how Asek's flip can make you go "um that makes Leet way more suspicious, Asek did push him a lot after all !"

I don't think they were having a rerun of bard's college mafia

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I did not find Hitmonleet scummy back then
Still Texas was way more confident about him being town than I was
Hawkie/Texas/Yeti died, and I don't think any of them had Leet any lower than a town lean iirc
Asek (and people in the poe namely Lightwolf) pushed Leet when we were trying to go through the poe
also mini mindmeld today re your lynch pool

I have no reason not to think he is town at this point, some of his posts didn't look great to me but the same can be said of you)
Asek may have pushed him to distance, seems unlikely though and I would never lynch this before lylo
If we end up with Knights/Leet/X in lylo it could get tricky but lynching him rather than one of AG/Lw today makes no sense

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They were trying to sniff out mason info by pressuring Leet and Yeti's TRs
And now what do you know, they're both pushing the lynch Asek was going for
I think what happened is the Leet wagon didn't get enough support and the other counterwagon to Asek (AG) was not town so they didn't push it (I would have been fine with lynching it instead of Asek and said as much), having to sloppily bus Asek instead

AG>LW>Epik lynch order wins this game I think, I would reconsider Leet a bit in lylo but it's probably town

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quote me the bussing on Empoof pls

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yeah thanks for the quotes Knights I do think that bussing was highly likely here as Empoof was completely afk r

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And if I go any further it bleeds into Moody's case on Light.

 

[Panic Station]

Moody on Aura Guardian
(aside: after this game ends, I'm starting a petition to stop using initials in mafia games)

oh right ag exists
I would put him with dle will look into it tomorrow

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yeah Asek d3 not looking good, no substance whatsoever. That one "retards" post felt like it wouldn't come naturally from scumAsek but can't give that slot a pass today.
Lightwolf's tone, apologetic behavior and way too wide lynch pool are concerning but I don't really know what to look for here
looking at AG/DLE now but I'll probably be voting one of AG/asek
vote AG

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lynch I'm the most confident about is AG who has done nothing to make me change my mind since I voted him

idk what's the deal with the hammer being cited as reason to tr me but people who think it is scum indicative should speak up now rather than wait til lylo to go "UM REMEMBER THAT HAMMER GUYS ?"

isoing AG

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AG what happened to your sr on Knights ?

They were trying to sniff out mason info by pressuring Leet and Yeti's TRs
And now what do you know, they're both pushing the lynch Asek was going for
I think what happened is the Leet wagon didn't get enough support and the other counterwagon to Asek (AG) was not town so they didn't push it (I would have been fine with lynching it instead of Asek and said as much), having to sloppily bus Asek instead

AG>LW>Epik lynch order wins this game I think, I would reconsider Leet a bit in lylo but it's probably town

I think it's unlikely Leet is scum and we should not go paranoid over his whole team bussing him until lylo
I will 100% lynch AG then LW if Leet ends up lynched today and flips green as I think he will, and that just means we give DLE slot a pass

Every night kill was adamant Leet was town and the pattern of scum voting him + removing every voice that can vouch for him makes lynching him now absurd

Yes well let's see AG's flip and discuss whether scum pushed him after that shall we

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You've been circling around without defending AG (which is suicide since he will flip red) nor really associating with him or giving arguments for why we should not lynch him. You acknowledged he was scummy and made no further comments on that even when called out on it.

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unvote

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lynch AG

Don't want to forget to put my vote back onto it while I'm away

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that lone MS vote onto AG d2 looks sad

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and we've reached the bleedthrough point again

Gonna take a break before going over dead Townies

 

[Panic Station]

Had a moment where I asked myself "should I be going over Moody's mentions of dead Townies when his scum interactions are already laid out" and now I'm not sure.

 

[Panic Station]

Is there anyone here who can tell me where the line between providing a useful source of info and wasting time is?

 

[Former]

Koc what's your actual take on what you quoted. Simply quoting it tells me nothing

 

[Panic Station]

I'm trying to parse it myself. That and not just keeping the legwork all behind the scenes is why I laid it out. Gut says maybe town but gut alone is not good enough at this point.

 

[MoodyCloud]

Wtf that's your iso ? come on man get your act together

 

[Panic Station]

Would you rather I spend a day and a half listing out every single time you mentioned every specific player? Because I have already recognized that at some point it stops being effective.

 

[MoodyCloud]

Is there anyone here who can tell me where the line between providing a useful source of info and wasting time is?

think you might be reaching it

 

[MoodyCloud]

At least give us a summary of the impression doing this iso left on you/how it affected your read

 

[MoodyCloud]

You can laugh all you want but I'm still waiting for you to propose a game solve and you're still getting rope

this is still true

 

[Panic Station]

Okay, 2458 and 2460 make it look like you're trying to have it both ways. And can you really not read what I posted after the "am I wasting time" posts?

 

[Panic Station]

The snark makes you harder to read, btw. I take some pride in doing more in this game than my recent Magikarp meta and you repeatedlly jabbing at that tilts me a little.

 

[Panic Station]

I think I've reached a point where I can look more deeply at Light without the "is Moody scum" tinted lenses on, but I'd like a question answered before I dive into isos again.

MoodyCloud Who is scum if Light flips green?

 

[Panic Station]

And if anmyone has any questions for me before I dive again, feel free to ask them now.

 

[Former]

If lw is town it's like 70% 3p1k

 

[Panic Station]

That question was for Moody and I'm a little unhappy you answered it yourself.

 

[Panic Station]

More than a little since now I have to throw out an attempt to gauge Moody's current mindset if he just points to your posts and goes "what he said".

 

[MoodyCloud]

I've been saying my preferred lynch order was LW => Epik for a while now

 

[Panic Station]

Right then. Rereading Light now.

 

[Panic Station]

Don't wait on me to keep talking.

 

[Panic Station]

Serious about how thread silence should not mirror my silence.

 

[MoodyCloud]

At least give us a summary of the impression doing this iso left on you/how it affected your read

 

[Panic Station]

I'm trying to parse it myself. That and not just keeping the legwork all behind the scenes is why I laid it out. Gut says maybe town but gut alone is not good enough at this point.