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Project The Next Best Thing - ORAS OU Edition V2 - Victini (Voting: Post #275)

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This week's winner is Whirlpool Latias by DarkNostalgia! Congrats. The subject this week is:

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Lucario!
 
SD Lurecario
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Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Iron Tail
- Ice Punch
- Crunch

Lucario tends to have different switch ins based on which coverage moves it runs, being walled by things such as Landorus-T, Slowbro, Clefable, and the like. This set takes advantage of those potential switch ins and allows it to lure them in and kill them, allowing a teammate to break through later.
 
Magnet Rise Lucario

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Lucario @ Air Balloon / Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Swords Dance
- Magnet Rise
- Extreme Speed

Magnet Rise lets Lucario set up on some of its biggest checks, like Landorus-T, Hippowdon, and Gliscor. Thanks to Justified and its Steel typing, it has no problem taking the Knock Offs and Stone Edges they carry as coverage.

This set has trouble with Ghosts, but besides Sableye and Gengar they're just not that common in OU.

EDIT: Added Air Balloon
 
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Blaze Kick HP ice Lucario
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Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Close Combat
- Iron Tail
- Blaze Kick
- Hidden Power Ice
This set helps in killing it's checks and counters such as Clefable, Mega Heracross and Landorus-Therian. Bulky Fairies are 2HKOD/OHKOD by iron tail and close combat is reliable STAB. HP ice has a higher chance to kill phys Def Lando-T which is why it's used here. Blaze kick 2HKOS Heracross
 
NP Lucario

Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature / Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Vaccum Wave/Aura Sphere
- Flash Cannon
- Shadow Ball/Psychic/Aura Sphere

There you have a special Lucario, a rare yet effective set. NP allows it to boost, while flash cannon offers a strong STAB. Vaccum Wave gives priority for Lucario to do work against faster teams, but could be dropped for aura sphere if you want Lucario to break fatter teams. The last slot has quite a few options, Luke can use Shadow Ball to kill Mega Slowbros who think it is safe to switch in, while it can use psychic to kill fighting types, although some stuff you'd like to kill with Psychic (like Breloom) isn't switching in and can kill you with priority 1V1. Another option is Aura Sphere, so you can have a weaker, priority fighting move and a more powerful move for steel resists (which aren't too hard to find).
 
Specs Lucario
Lucario @ Choice Specs
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest/Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Vacuum Wave
- Focus Blast / Aura Sphere
- Flash Cannon
- Dark Pulse

This set is a great lure for the checks to Lucario's physical set and also has the bonus of not having to set up with a somewhat frail Pokemon. It gets perfect coverage with Fighting + Steel + Dark (or Ghost if you prefer Shadow ball) and has the power to 2HKO or OHKO most physical walls in OU (and, with SR, pretty much all of them). It is also one of the few Pokemon with special priority in STAB Vacuum Wave to pick off weakened offensive Pokemon and revenge kill Dark and Steel types.

Modest is more reliable at getting the right amount of damage to 2HKO and OHKO certain Pokemon, but the speed tier of Timid is also valuable enough to get a mention. Focus Blast is recommended if you're brave enough, as it accomplishes the feats of 2HKOing Chansey, OHKOing standard Rotom-W and OHKOing Quagsire among others, but Aura Sphere is reliable and still packs a punch. Hidden Power Ice can be used to lure in Zapdos (who counters the set without SR up), Gliscor, Garchomp and Lando-T, all big threats to Swords Dance Luc. Psychic is also good for luring Mega Venusaur.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 302-356 (47 - 55.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 276-326 (42.9 - 50.7%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 204-240 (31.7 - 37.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock (Focus Blast stronk, Aura Sphere semi-stronk essentially)

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Altaria: 378-446 (106.7 - 125.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Altaria: 344-408 (97.1 - 115.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 84+ SpD Clefable: 356-422 (90.3 - 107.1%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 84+ SpD Clefable: 326-386 (82.7 - 97.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Clefable: 428-506 (108.6 - 128.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Clefable: 390-462 (98.9 - 117.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 236 SpD Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 207-244 (58.9 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 236 SpD Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 138-163 (39.3 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Vacuum Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Excadrill: 282-332 (78.1 - 91.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Vacuum Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Excadrill: 254-302 (70.3 - 83.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 302-356 (85.7 - 101.1%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 272-324 (77.2 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 410-486 (116.4 - 138%) -- guaranteed OHKO (With Timid, you need Focus Blast to OHKO Ferro)

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 244 HP / 192+ SpD Gliscor: 181-214 (51.4 - 60.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Poison Heal
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 244 HP / 192+ SpD Gliscor: 165-195 (46.8 - 55.3%) -- 71.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Poison Heal
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Hidden Power Ice vs. 244 HP / 192+ SpD Gliscor: 364-432 (103.4 - 122.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Hidden Power Ice vs. 244 HP / 192+ SpD Gliscor: 332-392 (94.3 - 111.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Hippowdon: 336-396 (80 - 94.2%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Hippowdon: 306-360 (72.8 - 85.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Hippowdon: 223-264 (53 - 62.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Hippowdon: 204-241 (48.5 - 57.3%) -- 94.5% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jirachi: 213-252 (52.7 - 62.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jirachi: 195-229 (48.2 - 56.6%) -- 89.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jirachi: 190-224 (47 - 55.4%) -- 73.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jirachi: 174-206 (43 - 50.9%) -- 3.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 8 SpD Landorus-T: 235-277 (61.5 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 8 SpD Landorus-T: 472-556 (123.5 - 145.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Latias: 186-220 (51 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Latias: 170-200 (46.7 - 54.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 175-207 (57.5 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 396-466 (118.5 - 139.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Skarmory: 267-315 (80.1 - 94.5%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 264-312 (79 - 93.4%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Skarmory: 178-210 (53.4 - 63%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Skarmory: 243-286 (72.9 - 85.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 241-285 (72.1 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Skarmory: 162-192 (48.6 - 57.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 24 SpD Slowbro: 306-362 (77.6 - 91.8%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 24 SpD Slowbro: 282-332 (71.5 - 84.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 24 SpD Slowbro: 172-203 (43.6 - 51.5%) -- 66% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 244 HP / 0 SpD Sylveon: 314-372 (80.1 - 94.8%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 244 HP / 0 SpD Sylveon: 288-338 (73.4 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Vacuum Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Tyranitar in Sand: 228-268 (66.8 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Vacuum Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Tyranitar in Sand: 208-252 (60.9 - 73.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Venusaur: 154-183 (42.3 - 50.2%) -- 92.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Venusaur: 169-199 (46.4 - 54.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Venusaur: 254-300 (69.7 - 82.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Zapdos: 161-190 (41.9 - 49.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Zapdos: 147-174 (38.2 - 45.3%) -- 77.7% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Zapdos: 144-170 (37.5 - 44.2%) -- 58.2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Lucario Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Zapdos: 131-155 (34.1 - 40.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lucario Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Zapdos: 216-256 (56.2 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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Adamant | 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Close Combat | Iron Tail | Ice Punch | Agility

i don't like this round's pick because first of all, you really can't get creative with lucario (in a sense where your not just changing one move). however, out of the 7 sets above me, it breaks my heart to see that classic agility lucario doesn't come to mind. unlike swords dance, you don't have to worry about getting everything in kill range because close combat hits hard. another main draw about agility over swords dance is that this set doesn't get checked by diancie, terrakion, and metagross for example. iron tail nails fairys and has nice neutral coverage with close combat and hits mew and mega venusaur for example. ice punch basically takes out everything else like latias, landorus-t, garchomp, and tornadus-t. life orb is the mandatory item as you won't be hitting as hard as you like without it. talonflame, conkeldurr, and thundurus are the only notable 'mons you want out of the way because they will cripple/kill lucario with all those defensive drops. you resist ice shard and bullet punch anyways. slowbro also walls you, so something like thunderpunch mega medicham proves to be useful as it lures it in and also forms a double fighting core. watch out for compounding weaknesses though. regardless, its a fun set to use. hope you like it :]
 
Toljik said:
Magnet Rise Lucario

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Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Swords Dance
- Magnet Rise
- Extreme Speed

Magnet Rise lets Lucario set up on some of its biggest checks, like Landorus-T, Hippowdon, and Gliscor. Thanks to Justified and its Steel typing, it has no problem taking the Knock Offs and Stone Edges they carry as coverage.

This set has trouble with Ghosts, but besides Sableye and Gengar they're just not that common in OU.
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I suggest running Air Balloon>Life Orb. It allows Lucario to switch into Ground-types and force them to use a coverage move (e.g. Stone Edge) to burst your balloon so that you can set up the Magnet Rise on them.
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Salac Lucario
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Lucario @ Salac Berry
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
IVs: 30 HP (31 if you use Endure)
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Iron Tail
- Swords Dance
- Substitute / Endure

This set utilises Salac Berry to boost its speed to +1 with the use of Substitute or Endure so that it can use its STABs against faster pokemon that it couldn't otherwise outpace and deal heavy damage to such as Mega Aerodactyl and Mega Manectric. The key advantage of doing this as opposed to using Bullet Punch is that it makes Lucario less reliant on the boost from Swords Dance in order to score certain KOs. In addition to this, the use of Substitute or Endure gives Lucario a significantly easier time v.s. hyper offense, which it often has difficulty setting up on due to the constant pressure it puts on it. Substitute gives Lucario a buffer against burns and paralysis, notably that from Thundurus, pre-mega Sableye and Whimsicott due to Prankster allowing them to "outpace" Lucario after the Salac boost, at the cost of being reliant on Lucario forcing a switch or being faster to set it up and needing 3 to get into Salac range. However, Endure allows Lucario to consistently score the boost from Salac Berry and, as a result, gives Lucario the option to run an Adamant nature due to it having less need to retain its speed tier in order to set up Substitute or Swords Dance while not missing out on any notable speed tiers aside from fast scarfers ('cause troll freak be trollin' with that awkward base 90 speed) at the cost of making Lucario more susceptible to priority and meaning that missing KOs is guaranteed to be fatal against a competent opponent. The IVs ensure that Lucario's HP stat is divisible by 4 in order to get down to 25% with three subs. The EVs maximise Lucario's power and speed, and the 4 EVs have been deliberately placed into special defense to give random Download Pokémon that someone may bring for whatever reason an attack boost as opposed to a SpA boost.
 
Voting:

KidMagic's Double Dance Lucario
Tressed's SD Lurecario
Toljik's Magnet Rise Lucario
serperioriscool's Blaze Kick HP Ice Lucario
s0me1 b0red's Nasty Plot Lucario
Jaguar360's Specs Lucario
Vertex's Agility Lucario
gamer boy's Salac Lucario
DavisWuhu's Weakness Policy + Endure Lucario

Bold your votes!

Vertex if my picks are too linear for your taste please pick the subject next week :P
 
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