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Hone Claws Blizzard Kyurem-Black

Kyurem-Black @ Life Orb
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive / Hasty Nature
- Hone Claws
- Blizzard
- Fusion Bolt
- Focus Blast / Roost

Looking at Kyurem-B's movepool, I noticed that this monster has access to both Hone Claws and Focus Blast. The idea was to create the ''ultimate wallbreaker'', as nothing switches into a +1 Fusion Bolt or even into a Life Orb-boosted Blizzard, and bulky Pokemon such as Mega Slowbro and Chansey are all setup fodders.

Here are some calcs:
+1 4 Atk Life Orb Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Slowbro: 211-250 (53.5 - 63.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+1 4 Atk Life Orb Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 295-348 (45.9 - 54.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

+1 4 Atk Life Orb Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Clefable: 237-279 (60.1 - 70.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Life Orb Teravolt Kyurem-B Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Clefable: 199-234 (50.5 - 59.3%) -- 79.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Life Orb Teravolt Kyurem-B Blizzard vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 133-156 (43.7 - 51.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Life Orb Teravolt Kyurem-B Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 169-200 (48 - 56.8%) -- 89.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Life Orb Teravolt Kyurem-B Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 247-291 (70.1 - 82.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
 
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Sub Freeze Shock Kyurem-B

P.S. Freeze Shock is mentioned in the analysis but not listed on the dex in the page about Kyurem-B and its movepool (look at there http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/kyurem-black/).

Kyurem-Black @ Leftovers
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 56 HP / 216 Atk / 236 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Freeze Shock
- Fusion Bolt
- Shadow Claw
Just use Dragon Claw lol. Fusion Bolt covers basically every relevant Steel type and Excadrill is OHKO'd by Freeze Shock, and D-Claw/Fusion Bolt hits Fire types harder anyway(even 0 SpA Adamant Earth Power hits most Steel/Fire types harder than S-Claw lol)
 

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Voting starts now and will end in 48 Hours! Here are your choices:

Choice Band Kyurem-Black
Dragon Tail Kyurem
Substitute+Freeze Shock Kyurem-Black
Substitute+Roost Kyurem
Choice Specs Kyurem
Icy Wind Kyurem-Black
Substitute+Petaya Berry Kyurem
Shadow Claw/Ball Kyurem-Black
Substitute+Hone Claws Kyurem-Black
Chople Berry Kyurem-Black
Substitute+Endeavor Kyurem-Black
Choice Scarf Kyurem
Hone Claws+Blizzard Kyurem-Black
 
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The Winner for Week 17 goes to Lange's Hone Claws+Blizzard Kyurem-Black! Congratz for entering the Hall of Fame!

The Pokemon for Week 18 is Dragonite!

Remember Week 7 when we did Salamence? Well, here is the Pokemon that outclasses it, Dragonite! During BW2 Dragonite got a major buff thanks to it's Hidden Ability, Multiscale, making it take half the damage at full HP. This really doesn't sound like much, but this lets Dragonite able to atleast get 1 Dragon Dance up making it very good at sweeping. However Dragonite has taken a fall ever since the new Fairy Type, being immune to Dragon Type and adding another Type Weakness. Dragonite has a Total Base Stat of 600 and has good Power to make use of it's vast Movepool.​
 
Agility Dragonite


Dragonite @ Life Orb
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 228 HP / 252 Atk / 28 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw/Outrage
- Extreme Speed/Fire Punch
- Agility

Here we have a bulky Dragonite with Agility, a trait that enables it to run an Adamant nature with full EVs investment.
The moveset is stolen from the Dex even though I picked Dragon Claw over Outrage to prevent opponent's Fairies to stop and kill Dragonite but LO Outrage OHKOes M-Lopunny. In my opinion Fire Punch can be picked over Extremespeed due to the Agility in the moveset which makes Dragonite less forced to run a priority to outspeed the opponent.

This Dragonite reaches 203 Spe outspeeding the base 80 Spe with 16 Evs thus arriving at 406 after an Agility (outspeeding M-Lopunny by a point) thus having a nicely time towards offensive teams.
 
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Dragonite @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 216 HP / 64 Atk / 228 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Roost
- Dragon Claw
- Extreme Speed/Thunder Wave
- Fire Punch/Earthquake

This dnite is a pretty amazing mon in that it takes on keldeo, serp, heatran, tornadus, charizard y, alakazam, scizor, being a great glue mon to patch up weaknesses on a bulkier offensive team. This is basically a blanket check for most special attacker bar like kyub and shit like that that isn't named chansey so that you can run it on a team that isn't stall. With multiscale it can even lure in the lati twins, tank a draco, and OHKO them with dclaw. Dragonite isn't as strong as most dragonites with 252 atk adamant nature, but it is extremely strong for a defensive mon, its espeed is even stronger than lucario's which is saying something. All-in-all, it is a special wall with a giant niche of checking all of those things at once while still offering lots of power and sexy priority. Beware of scald burns that always seem to happen at the worst times lol, but heal bell/healing wish are really nice for bulkier offensive teams anyway, so this isn't too big a deal. This is especially true with the yellow magic being found on every other team. Un-nerfing these paralyzed mons has a psuedo healing wish effect, since it effectively revives a Mon that the opp thought was out of the way. (set totally stolen from mikedawg btw)
 
littlelucario your set is on the analysis dude, slashing TWave isn't really a change


Dragonite @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Sky Drop
- Toxic
- Roost
- Fire Punch / Substitute

Toxic Stall Dragonite is obnoxious as hell. Thanks to Dragonite's good bulk, Multiscale, and reliable recovery, a defensive set like this is certainly viable. Sky Drop was chosen as STAB since it allows Toxic damage to add up faster, stealing a turn from the opponent, and getting a neutral hit on Fairies is decent too. Fire Punch gives you a way of threatening Steel types, but Substitute can make things difficult, blocking status and being challenging to break if you manage to get Multiscale up behind it. This set does well against typical defensive mons like Hippowdon and Landorus-T, and it can also provide a useful check to a lot of offensive threats.
 
DD Iron Tail Dragonite

Dragonite @ Lum Berry
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Iron Tail
- Superpower / Earthquake
- Dragon Claw / Outrage

Set mainly to deal with Fairies such as Clefable and Mega Altaria. Superpower hits Heatran and Ferrothorn (Earthquake is slashed if you have a Magnezone on the team), while Dragon Claw / Outrage is he hard-hitting STAB move. At +1, Adamant Dragonite is able to OHKO Clefable 87% of times and guaranteed ohko Mega Altaria. A Jolly nature allows Dragonite to hit 426 Speed, outspeeding both Mega Manectric and Meta Lopunny (which could be a problem if it is running Ice Punch). You can run Iron head too if you're that type of pussy player that uses Rock Slide on Hippowdon or Flamethrower on Mega Charizard Y.
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Tail vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Clefable: 384-454 (97.4 - 115.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Tail vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Altaria: 338-398 (116.1 - 136.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Superpower vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 418-494 (108.5 - 128.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Superpower vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 294-348 (83.5 - 98.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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Rain wallbreaker


Dragonite @ Choice Specs
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hurricane
- Draco Meteor
- Thunder
- Surf / Focus Blast

Being the only mon bar castform to get access to both hurricane and thunder, Dragonite can fill a unique niche as a rain wallbreaker. With a modest nature and choice specs, and the extremely high BP of the given moves, Dragonite hits surprisingly hard on the special side. The combination of 100% accurate STAB hurricane and thunder break down most of rain's usual water and grass type checks such as M-Venu, Breloom, Azumarill, Slowbro etc. Multiscale also helps tank hits to fire off more attacks. Rain teams don't exactly struggle for speed so Dragonite's rather average unboosted speed doesn't really impede his role. STAB Draco meteor also really hurts and surf gets a rain-boost for the likes of Hippowdon, Excadrill etc too. You could run focus blast for Ferrothorn in the last slot, but hurricane is a 2HKO anyway and is more accurate (in rain). All in all this extremely niche set offers useful role compression on rain teams with its unique movepool and resistance to aqua jet, mach punch and grass, and can easily punch holes and soften up an opposing team for a swift swim sweep.
 
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Parashuffler Dragonite

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 244 HP / 252 SpD / 12 Spe
Careful Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Roost
- Dragon Tail
- Extreme Speed / Substitute / Dragon Claw / Hurricane

This D-nite set does basically the same thing as parashuffler Zygarde except that it has a slightly different set of resistances and with reliable recovery over the ability to utilise both sub and an attack on the same set. It does what it says on the tin: it spreads paralysis around the opposing team by forcing them into mons that need paralyzing. The EVs hit a lefties number and max out SpD, with the remaining twelve EVs just creeping defensive Gyara/M-Gyara on the off chance that I face one.
 
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Rain dance D-nite
Dragonite Life Orb
Multiscale, Modest
Rain Dance
Hurricane
Surf/Extremespeed/Thunder
Dragon pulse/Dracometeor
Very cool set, i've tried it out on my game but not on showdown yet.
 
Oh...was planning to share this set in Creative and Underrated Sets, but I guess I'll do so now.

All-Out Mixed Attacker D-nite
Dragonite @ Life Orb
Ability: Multiscale / Inner Focus
EVs: 24 HP / 128 Atk / 252 SpA / 104 Spe
Mild/Rash Nature
- Thunderbolt / Ice Beam
- Hurricane
- Extreme Speed
- Superpower

This set is a beastly mixed wallbreaker on Offense and Hyper Offense that takes advantage of its access to a powerful STAB Hurricane as well as strong priority in Extreme Speed. While the set doesn't take advantage of Multiscale as much thanks to Life Orb and lack of Roost, it fits the nature of an offensive team and can use Multiscale to simply take a hit and retaliate. Plus, the pressure that Dragonite puts with 4 attacks and Life Orb makes up for any lost defensive perks.

Hurricane is the main attack on the set, having great neutral coverage and raw power to 2HKO physical walls like Ferrothorn and TankChomp and some mixed walls like Clefable and Hippowdon. It's a bit inaccurate, but 70 is workable enough. Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Fire Blast and Draco Meteor can work as secondary special attacks, though Thunderbolt and Ice Beam are usually best. T-bolt hits Specially Defensive Skarmory and accurately disposes of Water types, while Ice Beam targets Zapdos and also hits Ground types and opposing Dragons for big damage.

Superpower 2HKOes Chansey even after the attack drop and also hits Heatran, Tyranitar and other Steel and Rock types. E-Speed is needed to pressure offensive teams and give Dragonite more opportunites to come in.

Full investment in Special Attack plus Life Orb is needed to 2HKO standard MG Clefable and maximizing the damage with Hurricane and the extra special attack is great. 128 Attack EVs will 2HKO Chansey reliably and give Extreme Speed meaningful power. 104 Spe speed creeps on defensive Lando-T and 24 HP EVs minimize Life Orb damage.

Will return with more replays. Here's one for now since the second one I had got corrupted: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-315164475
Not the best showcase, but Dragonite does some stuff against an offensive team there.

EDIT: More replays yay
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-317643804 - Dragonite OHKOs an Azumarill w/ Hurricane, survives an LO HP Ice from what is probably NP Crobat after SR damage, and gets good damage on Weavile for a final hit

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-317646127 - D-nite makes a clutch save against what was probably Bulk Up Talonflame, feigning physical D-nite and OHKOing Talon with T-bolt
 
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Scarf Facade Dnite


(Dragonite) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Facade
- Extreme Speed
- Earthquake / Fire Punch

Scarf facade dragonite is a really fun set I've used before on a gimmick team. Jolly max speed allows you to outspeed weavile (With scarf) and speed tie with other threats like things as scarf Hoopa-U. Scarf is really amazing it as it manages to catch things off guard once again, weavile as an example as it usually tends to stay in and icicle crash where as with scarf, dnite just OHKOS it as well as outspeeding. Facade is really handy against things like talon mew and tran, clefable, chansey and other mons. Facade can really help against stall (Like things such as chansey) as it does double damage with status. Not saying that it does more than outrage but it certainly is helpful but it helps with fairies.


calcs

252 Atk Dragonite Facade (140 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 207-244 (32.2 - 38%) -- 96% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Dragonite Facade (140 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 207-244 (57.6 - 67.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Dragonite Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Clefable: 164-193 (41.6 - 48.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Dragonite Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mew: 156-184 (38.6 - 45.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
 

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Hone Claws d-nite
Life orb
Multiscale
Hasty
252 atk 252 spe 4 spd
Hone claws
Iron Tail/Stone Edge
Dragon Rush
Focus Blast/Hurricane/Heat Wave
you kinda need to add more to the post explaining how it works, and please put the set in a little bit of a better format please maybe like showdown importable.
 
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