Serious The Politics Thread

The most hilarious thing about the Bidenistas now coping and seething about Elites is that they're the same people who were completely against a Bernie win, were 1000% for all of the anti-democratic tactics the elites used to crown their candidate against the left in 2016 (which was frankly the more disgusting version) and 2020...

...and would have been against Biden doing the kind of politics that would have allowed him to create power for himself outside of the elites during his presidency.

Ehhh. Most Democratic voters I know liked Bernie. The elites didn’t of course. It was always about Bernie’s general election viability, and him not being active in the party.
 
Ehhh. Most Democratic voters I know liked Bernie. The elites didn’t of course. It was always about Bernie’s general election viability, and him not being active in the party.

Maybe, but that’s not what I’m saying. The point is Biden can’t fund a whole small-donor only campaign the way Bernie could. He doesn’t have the juice to run with approval ratings, Union/Progresive group endorsements and $25 donations alone. That might have been possible, but it would have required governing and communicating entirely differently.

edit: And of course Bernie was only able to campaign that way because he had the endurance to make up the dollars. If you can’t get as much Paid, you need more owned and earned media by going on all the podcasts, YouTube shows, etc etc.
 
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donald trump's crimes are lame though. he has nothing on hunter biden's crimes (crack is way cooler than cheating)
eh I don't think lil Hunter caught a sexual assault case yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did that too

I think it's really odd how in left circles, calling out Hunter for the menace to society he is is condemned. Guy is a legit threat, the fact that he tries sooo hard to fuck his dead brother's wife is already insane, and that's the least of his crimes

If his father wasn't who he was and didn't launch a psyop with aliens being confirmed by the white house from a "whistleblower" when he got into legal issues the last time, he would've long died in prison
 
I think it's really odd how in left circles, calling out Hunter for the menace to society he is is condemned. Guy is a legit threat, the fact that he tries sooo hard to fuck his dead brother's wife is already insane, and that's the least of his crimes
This is because the right loves to treat Joe as guilty by association and use Hunter's crimes as a springboard for conspiracies. If I had a dollar for every time I've heard the phrase "Biden crime family," I'd be rich enough to run for President. Often, it's hard to separate the good faith from the bad.
 
This is because the right loves to treat Joe as guilty by association and use Hunter's crimes as a springboard for conspiracies. If I had a dollar for every time I've heard the phrase "Biden crime family," I'd be rich enough to run for President. Often, it's hard to separate the good faith from the bad.
I get that the whole point is abused by the right pretty massively, that said, if it was just Joe Biden having a shitty son, alright, my family tree has also beared rotten fruit

But Hunter was protected for decades by his father. I get that you love your flesh and blood, but a responsible person would've realized long ago that your child will never change aslong as they never face the consequences for their actions

Again, Hunter's a menace and his father shouldn't subjugate the society that he has to shepherd with him
 
This, this exactly. This is amazing, and really encapsulates the moment, both ironically and sincerely.

Joe will genuinely be missed.

He wouldn’t have to be missed if the spineless Democrats weren’t so weak.

Again, Hunter's a menace and his father shouldn't subjugate the society that he has to shepherd with him

Are you that devoid of empathy? Hunter Biden is an addict. He lost is mother and sister in a car accident and his brother to brain cancer. Now he had to watch people discard his elderly father like the man was nothing but a piece of trash. Jesus, have some decency.
 
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just so this isn't a no liner i think it was a sidegrade but helps dems to campaign on real material issues. i'm voting against trump even if biden actually just fucking died and they nominated his corpse.
 
Are you that devoid of empathy? Hunter Biden is an addict. He lost is mother and sister in a car accident and his brother to brain cancer. Now he had to watch people discard his elderly father like the man was nothing but a piece of trash. Jesus, have some decency.


ohhhh so as long as I've experienced loss I'm free to smoke crack and do nutty things to cope. Sorry Mom (rip) guess I have the go ahead to be a complete failure now!
 
ohhhh so as long as I've experienced loss I'm free to smoke crack and do nutty things to cope. Sorry Mom (rip) guess I have the go ahead to be a complete failure now!

It says more about you and the Republicans for piling on about the guys’ only surviving son having an addiction problem, considering more than half their family died through tragic circumstances.
 
Guy is a legit threat, the fact that he tries sooo hard to fuck his dead brother's wife is already insane, and that's the least of his crimes
Hold on here, brother, this is Godly conduct. For in the Book of Deuteronomy 25:5, the Scripture states:
If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband’s brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband’s brother unto her.
Can I get an amen to Hunter Biden performing the duty of a husband's brother?
 
this rly is like a microcosm of the embarrassment that is bourgeois amerikan political discourse, hunter biden is being criticized not for using the president's power as leverage in negotiating business deals but for struggling with substance use; and president biden who is directly responsible for incarcerating tens of millions of mostly black victims of a crack epidemic (that we 'officially' know was coordinated by the CIA to both disrupt black and indigenous organizing and to fund its insurgent activities to establish and or prop up far-right dictatorships in centroamérica), is attacked for somehow not being sufficiently punitive toward the many ppl who still struggle w crack addiction today.

also hunter biden's corruption is rly par for the course in electoral politics, and it certainly isnt anything genocide joe hasnt done himself over decades of taking hundreds of millions in corporate donations aka bribes, so its rly wild to be talking abt him 'distancing himself' from his son's corruption
 
this rly is like a microcosm of the embarrassment that is bourgeois amerikan political discourse, hunter biden is being criticized not for using the president's power as leverage in negotiating business deals but for struggling with substance use; and president biden who is directly responsible for incarcerating tens of millions of mostly black victims of a crack epidemic (that we 'officially' know was coordinated by the CIA to both disrupt black and indigenous organizing and to fund its insurgent activities to establish and or prop up far-right dictatorships in centroamérica), is attacked for somehow not being sufficiently punitive toward the many ppl who still struggle w crack addiction today.

also hunter biden's corruption is rly par for the course in electoral politics, and it certainly isnt anything genocide joe hasnt done himself over decades of taking hundreds of millions in corporate donations aka bribes, so its rly wild to be talking abt him 'distancing himself' from his son's corruption

No worries brother now both of these people are just "some guys". We're on TEAM HARRIS now get with the times.
 
"You mean we can't slander our opponent for being old anymore? We have to invent new ways to slander someone? Preposterous!"

Oh, we can. We can now harder than ever before.

Every time you get stuck in Walmart behind some piece of shit old person who leaves their cart in the aisle and doesn't know how to use a credit card remember... do I want this to be the next president of America?

Oh gosh this is fun I see why the Republicans did it.
 
American politics.. where spectacle and debate takes precedence.

The Democrats just threw their own successful incumbent in the trash because he was old. It’s a historically stupid decision, but at least this will be an exciting three months!!!!!

I don't understand how after everything you've said you're suddenly so defeatist. Shouldn't we be gathering around Kamala and her running mate? You say Project 2025 is a threat to democracy, so where is the fight you had for Biden? Why are you not supporting the candidate he just endorsed? Bernie supporters supported Hillary 10:1 in 2016 and even more for Biden in 2020. Why are you not doing the same? You should have the same vigor and energy you had for Biden even though he's no longer on the ticket. She's going to continue his policies either way. And to be clear, I don't mean support as in vote. I know you will vote for her. I just don't understand your behavior when she was his literal running mate. Not to mention, read the room. People seem overly optimistic about Kamala in November. Her AIPAC comments are disgusting and I don't know if I'll vote for her but I'm far more optimistic than she can beat Trump than I was with Biden, and it appears most Democrats are too.

It's just incredibly weird seeing you act as though this is somehow your first election, being unhappy with a choice that you had no say in, when that's quite literally how most Americans feel every election. Whenever someone criticized Biden you would respond in a condescending manner towards them because in your head you can't be wrong. Now you're on the other side of that. Stop moaning. Get back to telling people to vote for Kamala the same way you were for Biden.
 
I don't understand how after everything you've said you're suddenly so defeatist. Shouldn't we be gathering around Kamala and her running mate? You say Project 2025 is a threat to democracy, so where is the fight you had for Biden? Why are you not supporting the candidate he just endorsed? Bernie supporters supported Hillary 10:1 in 2016 and even more for Biden in 2020. Why are you not doing the same? You should have the same vigor and energy you had for Biden even though he's no longer on the ticket. She's going to continue his policies either way.

It's just incredibly weird seeing you act as though this is somehow your first election, being unhappy with a choice that you had no say in, when that's quite literally how most Americans feel every election. Whenever someone criticized Biden you would respond in a condescending manner towards them because in your head you can't be wrong. Now you're on the other side of that. Stop moaning. Get back to telling people to vote for Kamala the same way you were for Biden.

He made like 50 consecutive pro Biden posts and then got the rug pulled out from beneath him. I'd probably feel the same. Let the poor guy mourn / compare Biden losing to rape I guess. He'll come around BECAUSE IT'S TIME FOR KAMELA GET FUCKING PUMPED FOR HARRIS!! DICKS OUT FOR KH WE GOT A SUB 60 AGE CANDIDATE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN LIKE A DECADE LETS GOOOO
 
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