Never did I say specifically those were the Pokemon that outclassed him..? I was just mentioning their high base stats over his that could be more useful in certain situations. So there's no need to sound so obnoxious in your post. It's one thing to defend a Pokemon, it's another to completely blow it out of proportion based off ones personal opinion.
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Never did I say specifically those were the Pokemon that outclassed him..? I was just mentioning their high base stats over his that could be more useful in certain situations. So there's no need to sound so obnoxious in your post. It's one thing to defend a Pokemon, it's another to completely blow it out of proportion based off ones personal opinion.
I love how you completely ignored the other posts of whyyour post is incorrect.
Never once will you want to use any of those three over Thunderus-I. Magnezone is the only pokemon you mentioned that really even has a use in OU. Thunderus is no were never outclassed, he is one of the best pokemon in OU. Saying he is mediocre is a pure sign of lack of experience.
I thought I was in firebot for a minute because good lord you all got trolled hard.
Anyway 3 pages and no mention of Hidden Power Flying? It's super situational but on Nasty Plot sets it allows you to get a clean 2hko on Mega Venusaur while still getting 2hkos on things like Landorus-T and Garchomp and the like. Definitely not the best option as you lose a fair bit of coverage, but if your team _really_ needs Mega Venusaur gone for something for like, idk, CM ChestoRest Keldeo, it's not a bad lure!
Anyway 3 pages and no mention of Hidden Power Flying? It's super situational but on Nasty Plot sets it allows you to get a clean 2hko on Mega Venusaur while still getting 2hkos on things like Landorus-T and Garchomp and the like. Definitely not the best option as you lose a fair bit of coverage, but if your team _really_ needs Mega Venusaur gone for something for like, idk, CM ChestoRest Keldeo, it's not a bad lure!
I've seen Psychic on some Nasty Plot sets. Any reason to use this over HP Flying?
Even though I have doubts of being S rank, Thundurus is the best Electric pokemon available only behind Arceus-Electric and Zekrom, neither of which you can use in OU.
Electrode are unusable on higher tiers. Lanturn is usable not viable (Rotom-W) in OU. Electivire has a lot of flaws that makes it unviable, at least in OU.
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I guess it has the same base power as STAB HP Flying and allows you to run HP Ice, but you lose out on hitting Lati@s neutrally and give Bisharp/Ferrothorn a free switch in. Psychic overall has worse coverage than Flying does, but it has some use.
Thundurus is anything but mediocre. A pokemon that is simple mediocre was not uber last gen, and absolute top OU this gen. Comparing him to pokemon that don't do the same role as him is pretty useless, and thanks to his priority thunder wave he is unique and hard to compare against anything.
But Klefki can Prio T-Wave and has much better bulk and typing! /troll_mode_off
Just saw this and I really feel that the guy who said thundurus is mediocre is really trolling
Reasons:
1) Thundurus is immune to earthquake. You say just slap an air balloon on a electric type and call it a day?
Well now your electric type can't use an item anymore.
2) As everyone has been saying:
Priority TW. Crippling many non-electric or ground type speed based sweepers.
3) It is a threatening sweeper that can pose a threat to any pokemon weak to electric. Sure you name other pokemon with better stats individually but thundurus has higher special attack than electrode and most of the pokemon you mentioned , higher speed than magnezone and isn't weak to earthquake unlike all of them. Sure put a air balloon but see the first point. And electivire?
Super effective doesn't mean OHKO. It also is out speeded by key threats.
Reasons:
1) Thundurus is immune to earthquake. You say just slap an air balloon on a electric type and call it a day?
Well now your electric type can't use an item anymore.
2) As everyone has been saying:
Priority TW. Crippling many non-electric or ground type speed based sweepers.
3) It is a threatening sweeper that can pose a threat to any pokemon weak to electric. Sure you name other pokemon with better stats individually but thundurus has higher special attack than electrode and most of the pokemon you mentioned , higher speed than magnezone and isn't weak to earthquake unlike all of them. Sure put a air balloon but see the first point. And electivire?
Super effective doesn't mean OHKO. It also is out speeded by key threats.
Trolloll...
Thundurus is without doubt the best pokemon in the current ou metagame. I am currently using it in my deoxys-d hyper offensive team as the defog-blocker. I am currently ranked at 137 on the OU ladder. I must say that it is WAY BETTER than bisharp. It is also very good at playing mind games with opposing set-uppers due to its mere presence. It is easier to get boosts with it than bisharp as colbur berry lati@s are getting common these days. Also, defiant thundurus is very unexpected. It just murders teams at 2.
Thundurus is without doubt the best pokemon in the current ou metagame. I am currently using it in my deoxys-d hyper offensive team as the defog-blocker. I am currently ranked at 137 on the OU ladder. I must say that it is WAY BETTER than bisharp. It is also very good at playing mind games with opposing set-uppers due to its mere presence. It is easier to get boosts with it than bisharp as colbur berry lati@s are getting common these days. Also, defiant thundurus is very unexpected. It just murders teams at 2.
Smogon doesn't generally play with an item clause because for that very reason, it limits teambuilding. If you are playing with an item clause under some other ruleset, expert belt/choice specs/choice scarf would be the best options. You could also do a power herb + fly set if you go physical.
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It was more i dont have two of the items and i was kinda getting bored with the grinding for bp
This is kinda weird but can really help sweep with thundurus I. I typically run HP fire on him. Even though it makes thundurus immediately switch out to these pokes. Some but not limited to: hippowdown, garchomp, landorus, gastrodon, etc. however, it makes up for it with one sneaky surprise, you can take out most walls and SR/spikes users. Does massive damage to but not limited to: ferrothorn, skarmory, foretress, scissor, mega -pinsir etc. point is, hp fire can offer some really cool surprises on your opponents
Thunderbolt is more than enough for Pokémon such as Skarmory, Forretress and Pinsir and you can use focus blast to deal with Ferrothorn. Hp fire is just a waste of a moveslot, especially since you're giving up hp ice, which lets you get past stuff like Landorus, Garchomp, Gliscor and, at +2, can actually hurt Latios.
Ya your right i guess. I used go fire thundurus for a while and it did good. But thank you for showing me I still got a lot to learn take care, cheers
Thats what the site is made for :) to expand our knowledge
Just because Electrode is faster doesn't mean he is better, his offenses and defenses are too low to do anything. It goes about the stats combined, Thunderus has good stats all around which makes him so effective. And stats isn't the only thing. There is also abilities, movepool, typing and more. Thunderus has all of those while the pokemon you mentioned are only good in one or two things. Thunderus is versitile while stuff like Lanturn can only do one thing.
Also Electrode does have a really small niche in OU that it can set up rain dance and then explode to bring in something like Kabutops safely, it's a small niche but it's something.
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