Torrential Downpour

[fatsnorlax]

Welcome to Torrential Downpour, my Uber RMT. This team has been doing pretty good, peaking me at 1350ish points on the ladder. It has perfect switch synergy and can handle a variety of threats, I hope you enjoy.

At a glance:

In depth:

Downpour/Kyogre @ Choice Scarf
Ability:Drizzle
Nature:Modest
EVs:4hp/252Satk/252spd
-Water Spout
-Thunder
-Ice Beam
-Surf
General Info:
In every Uber Rain Team, there is a Kyogre. At the top of the list of the most threatening Pokemon in Uber, there is also a Kyogre. Simply put, this thing is a monster. Water Spout OHKO's almost everything, but Surf can also be used if I anticipate taking damage before attacking. The other two moves are there for coverage.

Role:
Kyogre is my rain inducer and one of my Special Sweepers. He's pretty straight forward, attempting to crush whatever is in his path under his mighty Water Spout.

Movest and EVs:
The movest is well, because Scarf Kyogre is a god. Water Spout is my op STAB of annhialation, Surf is a back up STAB, and the other two moves are for coverage. The EVs are standard for special sweepers. Choice Scarf gives me more speed, which I like.

Synergy: Grass: Lugia, Arceus, Dialga
Electric: Dialga

Guardian/Lugia @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252hp/236def/20spd
-Roost
-Toxic
-Dragon Tail
-Ice Beam
General Info:
Ah... the great wall and guardian of the seas... Lugia. This thing is a beast, shrugging off multiple attacks and Roost when need be. As a matter of fact, he can outstall some things just by Toxicing them and Roosting. Dragon Tail is for phazing and Ice Beam is for attacking dragons.

Role:
Lugia is a wall and a phazer, and excels at both.

Movest and EVs:
The Evs allow Lugia to effectively take attacks on bothe sides of the spectrum and outspeed other walls and hopefully some sweepers. Roost and Toxic are used to stall out the foe, while Dragon Tail phazes people who set up in my face. Ice Beam is used for its good coverage and its ability to kill Dragons. Leftovers help me to live longer.

Synergy: Electric: Dialga
Rock: Dialga, Arceus
Dark: Dialga, Arceus
Ice: Kyogre, Arceus
Ghost: Dialga, Arceus

Forbidden One/Giratina @ Griseous Orb
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Naughty
EVs: 248atk/252Satk/8Spd
-Draco Meteor
-Hidden Power [Fire]
-Shadow Sneak
-Dragon Tail
General Info:
Giratina is a beast, dealing large amounts of damage to things that don't resist it, while being able to take a decent amount of pain itself. It has good coverage,and can hit a variety of Pokemon where it hurts, making it an effective member of the team.

Role:
Giratina's jobs are numerous. It is a sweeper, a check to specific threats (Mewtwo, Arceus), and can function as a spin blocker. As mentioned before, it is very effective.

Movest and EVs:
Everything here is about power, with a little extra speed to outspeed some defensive Pokemon. Draco Meteor and Hidden Power provide great coverage, Shadow Sneak is for a strong priority move, and to kill Mewtwo and Deoxys. The Griseous Orb puts it in Origin Form, making it more powerful.

Synergy: Ghost: Arceus, Dialga
Dragon: Arceus
Ice: Kyogre, Arcues
Dark: Dialga, Arceus

Time/Dialga @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252hp/20Satk/236Sdef
-Stealth Rock
-Earth Power
-Dragon Tail
-Dragon Pulse
General Info:
This guy is really useful, between good bulk and a good set of resistances, it takes him a while to die. Of course, Dialga is not all defense. Dragon Pulse is a nice STAB with great coverage, and Earth Power kills steels and electrics(I put him on the team because I needed an electric resist). Overall, Dialga is a great Pokemon.

Role:
Dialga is a nice Pokemon, bordering somewhere between an offensive and defensive strategy. He's a boss, being able to take a lot of punishment, and deal some back.

Movest and EVs:
The EVs provide Dialga good mixed bulk and decent attack power. Stealth Rock is generic here, being the best entry hazard in the game, and when combined with Dragon Tail, can cause a good deal of pain. Dragon Pulse and Earth Power have great coverage. Leftovers help him live longer.

Synergy: Ground: Lugia
Fighting: Lugia, Giratina

Space/Palkia @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Hasty
EVs: 4hp/152atk/100SAtk/252Spd
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Thunder
-Spacial Rend
General Info:
I was originally going to run a scarf Palkia, but then I looked at my team and decided that Blissey was going to give me issues. "Blissey Boxer" Palkia kills more than just Blissey, it can bypass Dialga, other Palkia, and a lot of other threats, this guy is great.

Role:
Palkia is my Blissey Boxer, my Dialga murderer, and an awesome dude. He is sweep inclined, and can handle a variety of threats.

Movest and EVs:
Palkia's EVs and movest allow him to bypass a lot of threats that would otherwise prove difficult to my team. The Sub-Punching combo is lethal to Dialga and Blissey, and Spacial Rend and Thunder handle a lot of things. Leftovers are there to recover the hp lost from substitute.

Synergy: Dragon: Arceus

Original One/Arceus @ Iron Plate
Ability: Multitype
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4hp/252def/252spd
-Calm Mind
-Judgement
-Roar
-Recover
General Info:
Upon wearing the mystical Iron Plate, the Original One gains numerous resistances, including Dragon and Psychic, two of the most common types in uber. He is still hurt by the ultrahot flames of Fire Pokemon and the great blows of ground and fighting Pokemon, but things on my team can take care of those. His numerous resistances allow him to set up on a decent amount of Pokemon, including Forretress and and Dark Arceus. He is a useful defensive and offensive member of my team.


Role:
Arceus is my Calm Mind sweeper and dragon resist. He does his job well, as he can set up on a variety of threats.

Movest and EVs:
Arceus's EVs allow great bulk and speed, and Calm Mind makes the god of Pokemon unhesitent to remove one of his creations from existance, and is supported by roar, to phaze the phazers before they phaze me. Recover heals him and keeps him alive longer.

Synergy: Ground: Lugia
Fire: Kyogre, Palkia, Giratina
Fighting: Giratina, Lugia

Expert to text:

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Downpour (Kyogre) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Water Spout
- Surf
- Thunder
- Ice Beam

Gaurdian (Lugia) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 236 Def / 20 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Roost
- Ice Beam
- Dragon Tail
- Toxic

ForbiddenOne (Giratina-O) @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 248 Atk / 252 SAtk / 8 Spd
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Shadow Sneak
- Dragon Tail

Time (Dialga) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 20 SAtk / 236 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Stealth Rock
- Dragon Tail
- Earth Power
- Dragon Pulse

Space (Palkia) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 152 Atk / 100 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Substitute
- Spacial Rend
- Thunder
- Focus Punch

Original-One (Arceus-Steel) @ Iron Plate
Trait: Multitype
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Judgment
- Roar
- Recover

Thanks to Arkeis.com for a couple sprites.

Any help is welcome!

 

[fatsnorlax]

Threat List:
Green=Minor threat, if a threat at all
Orange=Potent threat
Red=Large threat

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Abomasnow-Palkia, Arceus, and Dialga can easily take it.

Blaziken-Giratina, Kyogre, and Lugia pwn it.

Blissey-Palkia and to a degree Kyogre can handle it. It can't do anything to Arceus.

Bronzong-Kyogre destroys it. Arceus can take it too.

Bug Arceus-Kyogre, Arceus, Giratina, Lugia, and Dialga can beat it.

Chansey-see Blissey

Cloyster-Dialga pwns it. Kyogre can kill it prior to shell smash, as can Palkia and Arceus.

Dark Arceus-Dialga, Arceus and Palkia

Darkrai-Stealth Rock+Kyogre=dead Darlrai Focus Sash or not(:

Deoxys-Giratina

Deoxys-A-see Deoxys

Deoxys-D-Kyogre

Deoxys-S-Kyogre, Dialga, Arceus, Giratina

Dialga-Tough one, but Palkia can beat it.

Dragon Arceus-I dunno, probably Kyogre, Arceus, and Dialga (assuming no EQ).

Dugtrio-Lugia, Arceus, Kyogre, and Giratina say hi...

Electric Arceus-Probably Dialga and Giratina.

Excadrill-Kyogre changes the weather and kills it. Lugia and Giratina wall it.

Fighting Arceus-Kyogre, Lugia, and Giratina.

Fire Arceus-Kyogre, Lugia, and Giratina.

Flying Arceus-Kyogre, Lugia, Arceus, Giratina, and Dialga.

Forretress-Kyogre, Giratina, and Arceus

Garchomp-Lugia, Kyogre

Gastrodon- Most likely Palkia, and Lugia.

Ghost Arceus-Possibly Kyogre, Arceus, and Dialga.

Giratina- Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus

Giratina-O- See above

Grass Arceus-Dialga, Lugia, Arceus

Groudon-Lugia, Giratina, Arceus

Ground Arceus-Kyogre, Lugia, Giratina

Heatran-Kyogre, and Possibly Dialga.

Heracross-Kyogre, Giratina, and possibly Lugia.

Ho-Oh-Kyogre, Palkia, and possibly Dialga. I have Stealth Rocks.

Hydreigon-Dialga, Arceus, and possibly Palkia and Kyogre.

Ice Arceus-Kyogre, Arceus, and Possibly Dialga.

Jirachi-Kyogre, Dialga, Giratina, Arceus, possibly Lugia... or course, it has hax...

Jumpluff-Kyogre changes the weather and kills. Lugia, Dialga, Giratina, and Arceus wall.

Kingdra-A tough one, I can kill it with Dialga.

Kyogre-A really hard one, I can eventually kill it.

Latias-Arceus walls it. Dialga, Lugia, and Giratina phase it.

Latios-Dialga, Kyogre, Arceus

Lilligant-Lugia, Giratina, Arcues, Dialga... Kyogre changes the weather

Lucario-Kyogre, Palkia, Giratina

Ludicolo-Lugia walls non Leech Seed varients. I dunno, I guess the Pinapple poses a legit threat to my team.

Lugia-Dialga, Kyogre

Magnezone-Palkia, Dialga

Mamoswine-Kyogre, Arceus

Manaphy-Palkia

Metagross-Kyogre, Giratina neuters, possibly Dialga

Mew-Kyogre, Palkia I guess

Mewtwo-Kyogre, Giratina, possibly Dialga and Arceus

Ferrothorn-Palkia

Ninjask-I have stealth rocks, and a ton of OP Pokemon that can squish the little bug. Baton Pass can be trouble though.

Normal Arceus-Giratina, possibly Dialga

Palkia-Dialga, possibly Arcues and Palkia

Poison Arceus-Giratina, possibly Dialga and Arceus

Psychic Arceus-Lugia can probably stall it. Arceus sets up in its face.

Qwilfish-Kyogre, Dialga, Palkia, Lugia, Giratina, Arceus

Rayquaza-Kyogre, Palkia, Lugia without a DD, harder with a DD under its belt.

Reshiram-Kyogre, Pakia

Rock Arceus-Kyogre, Arcues

Salamence-Lugia, Dialga, Kyogre without a DD, harder with a DD under its belt.

Scizor-Dialga can take anthing but superpower, same with Arceus. Giratina, Lugia, and Dialga can phaze it. Kyogre pwns it.

Shaymin-S-Kyogre, Dialga.

Shedinja-Stealth Rocks, Giratina, Lugia

Skarmory-Kyogre, Arceus, Palkia

Steel Arceus-Kyogre, Dialga

Tentacruel-Kyogre, Palkia, Arceus, Giratina

Terrakion-Giratina, Kyogre

Tyranitar-Kyogre, Dialga, Arceus

Venusaur-Lugia, Giratina, Kyogre change weather

Water Arceus-Palkia

Weavile-Kyogre, Arceus

Whimsicott-Kyogre, Arcues, Giratina

Wobbuffet-Kyogre. Giratina, Lugia, and Dialga can rack up Stealth Rock damage.

Zekrom-Dialga, Palkia kills non-Scarfed

 

[Deku La Situacion]

Chansey/ blissey/ Special walls, etc... ows this team. me in this team i wold put a phissychal pokemon attacker, no a wall. I hope that advices help you^^

 

[giggity69]

You are going to need to expand your descriptions in order for raters to give you any really useful information. As it stands, you are also missing crucial requirements of an uber team, such as a Dragon resist, Extremekiller arceus check, and lack of a starmie. Take a look at a few well known RMTs (or take a look at the archive) to see what I mean.

 

[fatsnorlax]

Added in Giratina and got started on a threatlist.

Also, if a Dragon resist is necessary, maybe I could trade in Grass Arceus for this:

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Arceus @ Iron Plate
Ability: Multitype
Nature: Adament
EVs:100hp/252atk/4Sdef/152spd
-Swords Dance
-Iron Head
-Extreamespeed
-Recover

or this:

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Arceus @ Iron Plate
Ability: Multi Type
Nature: Timid
EVs:4hp/252Satk/252spd
-Calm Mind
-Flash Cannon
-Earthpower
-Dragon Pulse

Thoughts, opinions, suggestions... I'm open.

 

[Tobes]

If you're going to use Steelceus I suggest:

Arecus @ Iron Plate
Multitype
Timid 4/0/252/0/0/252
- Judgment
- Thunder
- Calm Mind
- Recover

Recover lets you set up on a lot of things, including Chansey, who can't touch you. Thunder muscles through many of the Pokemon that resist Steel Judgment, including Kyogre, Palkia (who you can usually set up on), and to an extent Ho-oh.

Good luck.

 

[TheSpecialOne]

I think Roost is preferable over Recover on Lugia, since it gets rid of most of Lugia's weaknesses.

 

[fatsnorlax]

I'll give bulky Calm Mind Steel Arceus a shot. Roost is probably worth trying as well.

 

[Clinton2637]

Other than your Kyogre, the rest of your team does not use the rain to your advantage, other than Thunder. Teach your Lugia Surf, or at least teach your team a water type move which can take advantage of the downpour. Your team is completely relying on Special Attacks to do some damage. However, it will do nothing against a Blissey or Chansey. So, I think you need a pokemon which relies on Physical attacks, like Zekrom, or Terrakion.

 

[fatsnorlax]

bump

 

[fatsnorlax]

Lengthened some descriptions. I know this isn't perfect, come on people.

 

[Wildfire]

I like the team, but I would change leftovers on palkia to haban berry. If palkia does not have a sub, any faster palkia, basically the scarfted version, will KO. Haban ensures it will survive.

 

[fatsnorlax]

Did some more on the threat list.

 

[ssbbm]

Why not run a Ferrothorn over Steel Arceus (or Dialga I guess). This allows you to beat Blissey/Chansey quite easily, as well as providing a secondary check to Kyogre.

 

[fatsnorlax]

Why not run a Ferrothorn over Steel Arceus (or Dialga I guess). This allows you to beat Blissey/Chansey quite easily, as well as providing a secondary check to Kyogre.

People switch when I seed them, making that aspect somewhat useless. I also have Palkia to kill whatever fat pink Pokemon may cross my path. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Killer of fat pink Pokemon! (I wanted somewhere to stick this picture, I was originally going to edit the OP with this, but I decided I would keep Aaragornbird's). This pic is by Paintseagull.

 

[fatsnorlax]

The threat list is done!

 

[blarajan]

Roar>Thunder on Arceus. While MonoSteel is horrendous coverage, Roar provides more utility. Primarily: It stops things from phazing you out before you've set up enough. 1 Calm Mind isn't breaking through Lugia, Giratina, Kyogre, etc even with Thunder, and they can phaze you out relatively easily. +6 Judgment hurts like a bitch even if resisted. Roar>Thunder.

 

[fatsnorlax]

Roar worked pretty good, I'll keep it.

 

[Mr. Munchlax]

Very well put together team. Honestly, I would suggest replacing Roar with an offensive move because it can be pretty frustrating to try to plow through Pokes that resist Steel.

 

[fatsnorlax]

Roar is freaking awesome, it's not going anywhere. Thanks for the reply though.

 

[mimi]

you could aslo run whirlwind > dragontail on lugia so you have less trouble with ludicolo in rain

 

[fatsnorlax]

I like a little extra damage, but thnx for the reply.

 

[mcubed46]

sun teams that manage to kill kyogre with extremespeed rayquaza or arceus could give you trouble, also i think mewtwo with aurasphere can really hurt this team after kyogre is gone

 

[fatsnorlax]

sun teams that manage to kill kyogre with extremespeed rayquaza or arceus could give you trouble, also i think mewtwo with aurasphere can really hurt this team after kyogre is gone

Thanks for the reply(: Anyhow, Rayquaza is taken out by Lugia, and Arcues is handeled by Giratina and Lugia. Mewtwo doesn't like Giratina-O and his Shadow Sneak unless he's a Specs varient, which will probably OHKO with Ice Beam, Arceus can take advantage of this by getting a free Calm Mind as Mewtwo switches.