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UK General Election 2010

Who Are You Going To Vote FOr


  • Total voters
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  • Poll closed .
From the mainstream parties, I'm pretty sure the anti-EU vote is the Tories. (Of course there's UKIP, but they have no MPs.)

I have a couple of thoughts on UK politics in general. One is I wonder if democracy is being hurt by the long time between elections. In particular I'm thinking in contrast to the US's midterms, which are often seen as the electorate expressing their opinion on the current government. Of course the UK has a fusion of powers, with the executive being drawn from the legislature, so we can't have the same things. I don't know if reducing the UK term limit to something like 2 1/2 years would help. If we move to an elected House of Lords, I'd suggest those elections be held about two years after elections to the Commons.

Also, and this goes beyond the UK - I'm questioning the idea that "strong government" is a good thing. A government with a commanding majority will be able to push through its ideas regardless of stiff opposition, strong public opposition, and even internal rebellion. A weak government has to keep all its members happy, potentially gain support of other parties, and will probably be more responsive to public opinion. I reckon if you ask someone, no matter what their country or political stance, which governments they think have been bad, they'll name strong governments. In my case, I think the Blair Labour government is the worst, though of course I'm young and that's really the only one I've known much about. Ask a lot of people older than myself and they'll say the Thatcher government ruined Britain.
Essentially it boils down to which you think is more damaging to the country - inaction (which would be expected from a weak government, like a minority coalition) or bad action (which can be more readily taken by a strong government).

Note I mean different things by "strong" and "stable". A stable government is one that holds together for a decent length of time. It can still be somewhat weak. Long-lived minority governments with no formal coalition are weak, but stable, by this definition.
 
It will be interesting how long this Conservative and Liberal Democrat coalition will last effectively. Maybe this rumoured 'fixed term' deal of three years may actually be implemented, however, if history serves right as the future's course, then there will be a disbandment of coalition some way or another which will overturn.
 
this is the second-worst possible result, after a tory majority. oh well, at least this way we might see some electoral reform in time for the next election!
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/election2010/liveevent/

David Cameron is now prime minister of Great Britain.

I'm guessing two things will happen:

The economy recovers naturally, banking shares get sold off; Cameron hailed as genius for reducing the deficit. Cameron wins second term

or

Tories manage royal fuck up of the economy. Labour back in for another 2-3 terms.

I'm quite looking forward to this, even though I dislike the guy and his policies. Partially cos it will be funny having such a guy represent our country. I can't imagine David "cycle to work to emphasise green credentials whilst chauffering shoes behind me but wahey, call me Dave, whilst you're at hug a hoodie" Cameron will have much clout on an international level, particularly being euro-scpetic.
 
Wow, 23% of the vote to LD as opposed to 29% for labour. And less than a quarter the number of seats..

Have a nice day.
It is very difficult for the Liberal Democrats to gain seats, because their support is so evenly spread-out. Labour and the Conservatives each have regional bases, and Labour's seat numbers have been exaggerated since the Thatcher era because of the electoral bulwark that is Scotland. In fact, it was a very real possibility before the election that the Liberal Democrats would win the popular vote, but come in third in parliamentary representation.
 
Sad to see that the labour party havent made it through. Cameron is full of empty promises and since the labour put us in this mess it would've been better to let them get us out. Also I hope that lib dems will make university fees free.
 
I'm actually quietly optimistic for this working. As a Lib Dem supporter I'm obviously not keen on Conservative policy, but having a notable balance between the Lib Dems on the Left reigning in the Conservative Right is an acceptable compromise. It also ensures Lib Dem policies actually get implemented, and I reckon both Nick Clegg and David Cameron are canny enough to make this coalition work, not just in the short term but for the full term of the parliament.
 
Toothache, I think you're bang on! Plus, I think it'll give the Lib Dems the government experience they need to possibly win the confidence of people who perhaps didn't vote Lib Dem precisely because they haven't been in power before.
 
Also I hope that lib dems will make university fees free.
Not gonna happen any time soon. I believe the Lib Dems still hold it as an 'ideal', but the economy isn't strong enough - the focus is on spending cuts, not adding services.

I too am cautiously optimistic. Heck, for one I'm pleased that the two Lib Dem policies I was opposed to - joining the Euro and scrapping Britain's nuclear deterrent - have been dropped in the coalition.
 
Hmm the pole is interesting here.

I am going to say it now: I live in Wales and I definitly think that well over 3/4 of the welsh and scottish population just vote Labour at every election no matter what, period. There are ~3 million people in Wales but probably about 70 seats. It's no wonder Lib Dems got 25% of the vote and 9% of the seats. So if you're annoyed at the election blame Wales and Scotland. I'm not suprised that there hasn't been a huge change in seats. (well it's quite big, but remember that Clegg was talking about being prime minister 2 weeks ago.

I feel that this coalition isn't a great unity in the interests of the public, it's basically the only non lab-con coalition that can get the crucial majority. The Lib dems and conservatives had completely diferrent policies, and i don't see the coalition working without some big arguements. Having said that, bar another general election, the coalition is the only form of govenment capable of bringing in any real change
 
Hmm the pole is interesting here.

I am going to say it now: I live in Wales and I definitly think that well over 3/4 of the welsh and scottish population just vote Labour at every election no matter what, period. There are ~3 million people in Wales but probably about 70 seats. It's no wonder Lib Dems got 25% of the vote and 9% of the seats. So if you're annoyed at the election blame Wales and Scotland. I'm not suprised that there hasn't been a huge change in seats. (well it's quite big, but remember that Clegg was talking about being prime minister 2 weeks ago.


Or you could blame Thatcher for leaving such fucking massive scars on the local populace most of the people I know here (living in a Welsh village) would rather dig their own eyes out of their faces than vote Thatcher - Labour, Lib Dem and Plaid are all alternatives, but voting Tory? No way.

The most I hope for from this hideous fucking sell-out is that Labour find their purpose as a party of the left wing again whilst in Opposition.
As to the rest? With a woman that voted for section fucking 28 as part-time(!) Equality Minister and OH MY GOD LIAM FOX (my local MP.. and what a spectacular cunt I know him to be) as Minister of Defence.. we're all fucked. The Lib Dems make me fucking sick - sold out everything they fucking stood for that was right and good just so they can say 'OH BUT WE HELPED GOVERN LOOK WE'RE A VIABLE OPTION'.. disgusting. Fucking disgusting.

Oh, and our Chancellor of the fucking Exchequer has a degree in History.

GO GO BULLINGDON CLUB
 
Oh, and our Chancellor of the fucking Exchequer has a degree in History.

GO GO BULLINGDON CLUB

No worries, they stuck someone who at least knows what to do behind him so that people think the Con's can do an ok job :p

IMO, the best thing to come out of this election is the potential for David Milliband to become leader of Labour.
 
I've seen it mentioned a lot of times that Margaret Thatcher was hated in Scotland; what exactly did Thatcher do to Scotland?
 
I've seen it mentioned a lot of times that Margaret Thatcher was hated in Scotland; what exactly did Thatcher do to Scotland?

From what I know, it was her attack on the minning industry, which was not only a large part of the Scottish economy but also what towns and villages and a lot of peoples lives were built around. There was also the other unions (ports/shipping mainly for Scotland) which were hit hard, and with that income dropped.

She also tried out a lot of her plans there first, most notably the poll tax which hit low income families very hard (more people in a house, the more you paid. So if you had several houses, or your family didnt have to stay in the same one, you paid little...).

Same went for Wales.

All in all, her policies took away jobs and sometimes whole ways of life as well as generally lowering pay and increasing tax.
 
One of these days, we'll judge our prime ministers and our governments by the present rather than the past. Sadly, it seems that that will be the day when pigs fly.
 
One of these days, we'll judge our prime ministers and our governments by the present rather than the past. Sadly, it seems that that will be the day when pigs fly.

If you're referring to the Tories, they're exactly the same fuckheads now as they were then.
 
If you're referring to the Tories, they're exactly the same fuckheads now as they were then.

When you say this, do you mean that the Tory party has had no new people join it and nobody leave it? If not, then the Tories are not the "exact same fuckheads" but either a different bunch of fuckheads or a much better group of people.
 
When you say this, do you mean that the Tory party has had no new people join it and nobody leave it? If not, then the Tories are not the "exact same fuckheads" but either a different bunch of fuckheads or a much better group of people.

I think its safe enough to say that her comments were about the party and its policies/opinions, well founded or not, then the people in the party since the comment was directed towards the party its self.
 
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