Resource USM LC Set Viability Rankings

[LilyAC]

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Welcome to the USM LC Set Viability Rankings! As a community, this project aims to rank the individual sets of each relevant LC Pokemon based on their current viability. Feel free to contribute by sharing and discussing opinions on the ranks; these posts will be considered when updating the thread. When nominating a set for a rank change, please provide valid reasoning and explanation, and aim to avoid unproductive discussion.​

S RANK

S

Diglett
Groundium Z | S
Life Orb | S-
Choice Scarf | A-
Eviolite | B+
Focus Sash | B+

Mienfoo
Fast Pivot | S
Slow Pivot | S-
Choice Scarf | A+
Flyinium Z | B+
Baton Pass | B+
Life Orb | B
Choice Band | C+

Vullaby
Physical Attacker | S
Nasty Plot | S
Mixed Attacker | S-
Choice Scarf | A+
Defensive | A-
Z-Mirror Move | B

S-

Abra
Focus Sash | S-
Life Orb | A+
Choice Scarf | C+

Staryu
Offensive Rapid Spin | S-
Four-Attack Eviolite | S-
Life Orb | A+
Defensive Rapid Spin | A+

Timburr
Iron Fist | S-
Bulk Up | A+


A RANK

A+

Foongus
Defensive | A+

Gastly
Life Orb | A+
Hex | A+
Fairium Z | A-
Choice Scarf | A-
Electrium Z | B+
Ghostium Z | B+

Onix
Sturdy | A+
Weak Armor | A

Pawniard
Eviolite | A+
Choice Scarf | A
Life Orb | A

Snivy
Eviolite | A+
Berry Juice | A+
Choice Scarf | B+
Normalium Z | B+

Torchic
Offensive | A+
Swords Dance / Curse | A-

A

Croagunk
Nasty Plot | A
Mixed Attacker | A
Physical Attacker | A-

Doduo
Berry Juice | A
Choice Scarf | A-
Life Orb | A-

Ferroseed
Defensive | A

Mudbray
All-out Attacker | A
RestTalk | A-
Choice Scarf | A-

Ponyta
Physical Utility | A
Physical Firium Z | A
Sunny Day | A-
Grassium Z | A-

Shellder
Shell Smash | A
Choice Scarf | B-

Spritzee
Defensive | A
Offensive Nasty Plot | B

Wingull
Offensive | A

A-

Chinchou
Choice Scarf | A-
Bulky Pivot | B+
Fast Pivot | B
Z-Rain Dance | C+

Grimer-Alola
Pursuit Trapper | A-

Snubbull
Berry Juice | A-
Substitute | A-
Eviolite | B+


B RANK

B+

Carvanha
Physical Attacker | B+
Special Attacker | B+

Corphish
Swords Dance | B+
Dragon Dance | B
Life Orb | B-
Waterium Z | B-

Dwebble
Spikestacker | B+
Shell Smash | B-

Elekid
Life Orb | B+
Choice Scarf | C+

Kabuto
Utility | B+

Magnemite
Choice Scarf | B+
SturdyJuice | B
Magnet Pull | C+

Mareanie
Defensive | B+

Rufflet
Bulk Up | B+
Choice Scarf | B

Scraggy
Dragon Dance | B+
Choice Scarf | B

Slowpoke
Defensive | B+

Wynaut
Trapper | B+

B

Bunnelby
Choice Scarf | B
Life Orb / Normalium Z | B-

Frillish
Choice Scarf | B
Defensive | B-

Larvesta
Bulky Pivot | B
Choice Scarf | B-

Munchlax
Recycle | B
RestTalk | B-

Omanyte
Shell Smash | B
Spikestacker | B-

Pumpkaboo-Super
Spinblocker | B

Surskit
Focus Sash | B
Choice Scarf | B

Taillow
Physical Attacker | B
Mixed Attacker | B

Tirtouga
Solid Rock Smash | B
Defensive | B
Sturdy Smash | B-

Vulpix-Alola
Light Clay | B

Zigzagoon
Belly Drum | B

B-

Archen
Offensive | B-
Utility | C+

Cranidos
Choice Scarf | B-
Life Orb | C+

Cottonee
Z-Memento | B-
Eviolite | B-
Z-Nature Power | C+

Dewpider
Eviolite | B-

Drilbur
Choice Scarf | B-
Allout Attacker | B-
Utility | C+

Houndour
Life Orb | B-
Choice Scarf | C
Eviolite | C-

Pancham
Swords Dance | B-
Parting Shot | B-

Salandit
Poisonium Z | B-
Nasty Plot | B-
Berry Juice | B-

Snover
Choice Scarf | B-
Eviolite | C+

Trapinch
Trapper | B-


C RANK

C+

Amaura
Choice Scarf | C+

Bulbasaur
Z-Celebrate | C+

Buneary
Z-Splash | C+
Offensive Utility | C+

Clamperl
Shell Smash | C+

Hippopotas
Eviolite | C+
Smooth Rock | C-

Koffing
Berry Juice | C+
Eviolite | C+

Magby
Belly Drum | C+
Life Orb | C+

Meowth
Mixed Attacker | C+

Pikipek
Choice Scarf | C+
Life Orb | C+

PumpkabooSmall
Z-Trick or Trick | C+

Riolu
Swords Dance | C+

Rowlet
Baton Pass | C+
Defensive | C-
Swords Dance | C-

Sandshrew-Alola
Hail Sweeper | C+
Choice Scarf | C+

Skrelp
Special Attacker | C+

Trubbish
Spikestacker | C+

Venipede
Spikestacker | C+

C

Anorith
Utility | C

Axew
Dragon Dance | C

Darumaka
Choice Scarf | C

Deerling
Life Orb | C
Eviolite | C

Dratini
Mixed Attacker | C
Dragon Dance | C

Goldeen
Flyinium Z | C

Inkay
Choice Scarf | C
Z-Hypnosis | C

Lileep
Defensive | C

Mankey
Choice Scarf | C

Natu
Offensive | C
Defensive | C

Numel
Sweeper | C
Defensive | C

Sandile
Choice Scarf | C
Eviolite | C

Spinarak
Eviolite | C

Stufful
Swords Dance | C

Sandshrew
Bulky Utility | C

Tentacool
Berry Juice | C
Offensive | C

Tyrunt
Dragon Dance | C
Stealth Rock | C

C-

Budew
Spikestacker | C

Chespin
Defensive | C

Cubchoo
Hail Sweeper | C

Cubone
Physical Attacker | C

Exeggcute
Harvest | C

Fletchling
Swords Dance | C

Honedge
Physical Attacker | C

Lickitung
Wish Passer | C

Mantyke
Rain Sweeper | C

Remoraid
Choice Scarf | C

Stunky
Pursuit Trapper | C

Treecko
Swords Dance | C

Teddiursa
Quick Feet | C

 

[Merritt]

S

Diglett
Eviolite | A-
Focus Sash | A-

Mienfoo
Choice Band | B

S-

Abra
Choice Scarf | B-

Staryu
Offensive Rapid Spin | S-


A RANK

A+

Gastly
Fairium Z | A
Choice Scarf | A-
Electrium Z | B+
Ghostium Z | B+

Snivy
Choice Scarf | A-

A-

Chinchou
Bulky Pivot | A-
Fast Pivot | B+
Z-Rain Dance | B-

Went through S-A, quoted everything I definitely can't agree with.

Diglett: Calling Evio and Sash A- is a massive insult to quite literally everything in A-. Somewhere in B ranks maybe.
Mienfoo: Bandfoo being above C is a meme and whoever informed you it was not was lying to you.
Abra: tf is a scarf abra (doing above C+)?
Staryu: Staryu has several A+ sets which combined make it an S- mon, not a mon with an S- set and two A+ sets imo. I'd put them all at A+ accordingly.

Gastly: Fairium is not legitimately good, and is only maybe as good as Scarf. It should be in the same rank - A-. Meanwhile I'm no expert on Electrium and Ghostium, I freely admit, but them being as high as B+ is suspect.
Snivy: Scarf Snivy is B+ in the current meta, although it's borderline perhaps.
Chinchou: Bulky Pivot (aka non-scarf) is not an A- set it is a B+ set. Similarly, Fast Pivot is a rank lower as well, at B. Z-Rain Dance is an unset and should be C+ or lower.

I'll do lower ranks later probably, but from looking at the top ranks it seems like there's an issue with decent-at-best sets being ranked closer to the Pokemon's VR rank than it rightfully deserves. Just because a Pokemon is at a high rank doesn't mean they can't have low ranked sets (A rank mons can certainly have C rank sets exist).

 

[Shrug]

best staryu set is 4 attack evio and it's S++

 

[Eliwi]

Torchic is now banned, why is it here?
(Wow it happened a lot of time ago)

 

[Merritt]

Torchic is now banned, why is it here?
(Wow it happened a lot of time ago)

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/torchic-has-been-freed.3647800/
That said, this is rather outdated of course.

 

[Eliwi]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/torchic-has-been-freed.3647800/
That said, this is rather outdated of course.

Thanks, I didn't know (last Sunday lol)
EDIT: this is not updated in the web, that's why I said it (you can see Torchic in banned pokemons)

 

[Mega-Pokebattlerz]

Mienfoo
Baton Pass | B+

Rowlet
Baton Pass | C+

delet this

 

[NabboCheTesta]

Wingull
Offensive | A

RIP