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Project USUM UU Lure that Threat - On Hold for UUPL
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Sneer's set is the most original one but as Smallsmallrose said, once Kyurem is at +1 Blissey is never staying in. On top of that, hone claws is a pretty suboptimal set, just use Draco Meteor or Roost. That's why I'll be voting for BackAtYouBro's Nidoking, since it's pretty good at deceiving Blisey users and doesn't lose much by using Superpower, whereas sets like Z-Fighting Volcanion and Z-Outrage Kyurem are suboptimal and don't feel worth it.
The winner of last round is Sneer with Kyurem! Your set has been added to the now fully updated archive. Congratutations!
Mega Aggron is a great fit on bulky and balance teams as a reliable Steel-type Stealth Rock setter that can check most Latias variants too. It is extremely physically bulky and can often slow down a lot of physical threats. Luring and removing it can often be the best way to eliminate it.
Submissions close on Wednesday 17th October at 11:59PM GMT+1. Good luck!
Mega Aggron is a great fit on bulky and balance teams as a reliable Steel-type Stealth Rock setter that can check most Latias variants too. It is extremely physically bulky and can often slow down a lot of physical threats. Luring and removing it can often be the best way to eliminate it.
Submissions close on Wednesday 17th October at 11:59PM GMT+1. Good luck!
reserving togekiss z firium
Togekiss @ Firium Z
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Air Slash
- Fire Blast
- Thunder Wave
- Nasty Plot
thats simply lol
+2 252 SpA Togekiss Inferno Overdrive (185 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Filter Aggron-Mega: 474-558 (138.1 - 162.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Togekiss @ Firium Z
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Air Slash
- Fire Blast
- Thunder Wave
- Nasty Plot
thats simply lol
+2 252 SpA Togekiss Inferno Overdrive (185 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Filter Aggron-Mega: 474-558 (138.1 - 162.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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False Confidence (Aggron-Mega) @ Aggronite
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Block
- Curse
- Heavy Slam
- Rest
At this point, a fair amount of players will scout for block slowbro due to how it's more well known now. However, you'd have to be really paranoid to scout for other blockmons. Block MAggron does an amazing job trapping fat mons, which would include opposing aggron trying to set up sr, or assuming they can win with eq/fire punch wars due to having less chip. Leading with this set v other aggrons usually means you get a kill on their aggron while they only get rocks up (roar is pretty rare nowadays).
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Araquanid @ Choice Specs
Ability: Water Bubble
EVs: 252 HP / 216 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sticky Web
- Scald
- Giga Drain
- Toxic
176+ SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Araquanid Scald vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Aggron-Mega: 182-216 (53 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
don't mind anything that isn't scald
Ability: Water Bubble
EVs: 252 HP / 216 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sticky Web
- Scald
- Giga Drain
- Toxic
176+ SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Araquanid Scald vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Aggron-Mega: 182-216 (53 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
don't mind anything that isn't scald
Magnet Rise Groundium-Z Stakataka
Stakataka @ Groundium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Lonely Nature
IVs: 15 Def
- Trick Room
- Magnet Rise
- Earthquake
- Block/Gyro Ball
Guys, if you really wish to get rid of Aggron-Mega you can try this, Stakataka is going to Trick Room like always, and then it clicks Magnet Rise blowing up Aggron mind or you can click Z-Quake if Aggron has already been chipped. This also works against Hippowdon.
Stakataka @ Groundium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Lonely Nature
IVs: 15 Def
- Trick Room
- Magnet Rise
- Earthquake
- Block/Gyro Ball
Guys, if you really wish to get rid of Aggron-Mega you can try this, Stakataka is going to Trick Room like always, and then it clicks Magnet Rise blowing up Aggron mind or you can click Z-Quake if Aggron has already been chipped. This also works against Hippowdon.
252+ Atk Stakataka Tectonic Rage (180 BP) vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Filter Aggron-Mega: 154-183 (44.8 - 53.3%) -- 32.8% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Stakataka Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Filter Aggron-Mega: 85-102 (24.7 - 29.7%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO
0 Atk Aggron-Mega Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 0- Def Stakataka: 44-52 (13.4 - 15.9%) -- possible 7HKO
252+ Atk Stakataka Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Filter Aggron-Mega: 85-102 (24.7 - 29.7%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO
0 Atk Aggron-Mega Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 0- Def Stakataka: 44-52 (13.4 - 15.9%) -- possible 7HKO
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Ability: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
Here's a set that used to be popular almost a year ago and has since been passed up for other Swords Dance Scizor sets that instead make use of items like Iron Plate, Life Orb, and Leftovers. It's still a decently effective option in its own right, as it can tank Knock Offs with more ease as well as nuke its checks without having to incur Superpower's Attack and Defense drops. The most common Mega Aggron spread cannot withstand a +2 Z-Superpower, and those that have some investment in their Defense stat need only take a small amount of chip damage for this Scizor set to take it down.
+2 252+ Atk Scizor All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Filter Aggron-Mega: 324-382 (94.1 - 111%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Latias (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Reflect Type
- Calm Mind
- Stored Power
- Dragon Pulse / Hidden Power [Fire]
It's lowkey my responsibility to post some dumb shit that really shouldn't work but it does. Cue the Stored Power Reflect Type. Scouting the set is easy enough, if it's Toxic then you dodge it since you literally switch to Steel Type, if it's Fire Punch you just don't stay in, if it's both you just suffer. It also takes a good five boosts and SR to OHKO it, but honestly, you score a clean 2HKO at +4/+4 so you could say it's worth it. This also has the added benefit of shafting other mons that might try and check it - Scizor, Krook, other Latias, they don't do much to it if it's suddenly a steel-type that's levitating, and the relevant Fighting Types do NOT want to come in. A win-win overall!
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Pidgeot-Mega @ Pidgeotite
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Hurricane
- U-turn
- Roost
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Hurricane
- U-turn
- Roost
Sorry if this doesn't count. Mega Aggron, who starts off as regular Aggron, likes to switch in on Mega Pidgeot's Hurricane and hit it with Heavy Slam in regular form. HP Ground is a great way of catching it off guard and doing a lot of damage. HP Ground is also a relevant Staka and Nihilego lure as well as doing the more damage to Mega Manectric and Empoleon than Hurricane or Heat Wave.
Haxorus @ Groundium Z
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Poison Jab
Haxorus is a great wallbreaker,and with +2 SD groundium it can just nuke out Mega aggron out,this set also doesn't lose that much with Outrage's confusions and can break decently
sp00k (Cofagrigus) @ Leftovers
Ability: Mummy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Will-O-Wisp
- Infestation
- Hex
- Rest
Where alot people thought (bar Sneer so far) "Sheer Power", I thought "TrapStall/Make my opponent hate me". I chose cofagrigus because it gets access to Will-O-Wisp and Infestation. This allows me to trap Aggron, Burn It so i take nothing from its attacks, Hex it to kill it, and rest off any Toxic or Thunder Wave it wants to dish out back. Cofagrigus' ability Mummy also takes away filter (even though its kinda useless considering you're most likely killing Aggron anyways). Finally, the EV's give Cof maximum physical bulk to eat Heavy Slams or Earthquakes for weeks. This set also works on other physical mons such as Swampert, Hippowdon (barring it's not carrying Whirlwind or Roar), Chesnaught, etc.
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Good shit lads, not accepting Araq or Cofag because Maggron will literally never switch into either of them, I suppose it might switch into Araq out of panic but normal Araq beats it anyways.
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Ability: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Knock Off
- Superpower
Here's a set that used to be popular almost a year ago and has since been passed up for other Swords Dance Scizor sets that instead make use of items like Iron Plate, Life Orb, and Leftovers. It's still a decently effective option in its own right, as it can tank Knock Offs with more ease as well as nuke its checks without having to incur Superpower's Attack and Defense drops. The most common Mega Aggron spread cannot withstand a +2 Z-Superpower, and those that have some investment in their Defense stat need only take a small amount of chip damage for this Scizor set to take it down.
+2 252+ Atk Scizor All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Filter Aggron-Mega: 324-382 (94.1 - 111%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Latias (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Reflect Type
- Calm Mind
- Stored Power
- Dragon Pulse / Hidden Power [Fire]
It's lowkey my responsibility to post some dumb shit that really shouldn't work but it does. Cue the Stored Power Reflect Type. Scouting the set is easy enough, if it's Toxic then you dodge it since you literally switch to Steel Type, if it's Fire Punch you just don't stay in, if it's both you just suffer. It also takes a good five boosts and SR to OHKO it, but honestly, you score a clean 2HKO at +4/+4 so you could say it's worth it. This also has the added benefit of shafting other mons that might try and check it - Scizor, Krook, other Latias, they don't do much to it if it's suddenly a steel-type that's levitating, and the relevant Fighting Types do NOT want to come in. A win-win overall!
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Pidgeot-Mega @ Pidgeotite
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Hurricane
- U-turn
- Roost
Sorry if this doesn't count. Mega Aggron, who starts off as regular Aggron, likes to switch in on Mega Pidgeot's Hurricane and hit it with Heavy Slam in regular form. HP Ground is a great way of catching it off guard and doing a lot of damage. HP Ground is also a relevant Staka and Nihilego lure as well as doing the more damage to Mega Manectric and Empoleon than Hurricane or Heat Wave.
Voting ends by October 21 at 11:59 PM GMT -7
mmm
let's go with fightinium sciz, that's the classic one.
let's go with fightinium sciz, that's the classic one.
Gonna keep going with Mega Pidgeot just because of how rare it is atm.
Sneer.
Most of the other lures are highly situational, or are mons that I wouldn't risk Aggron against to begin with due to how common lure sets on those mons are. I feel like Sneer's set is the most optimal set among the ones here that would actually catch me off-guard.
Most of the other lures are highly situational, or are mons that I wouldn't risk Aggron against to begin with due to how common lure sets on those mons are. I feel like Sneer's set is the most optimal set among the ones here that would actually catch me off-guard.
FightZ Sciz
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