UU Classification Thread

UU Classification Thread

Credit to Iminyourcloset for the idea



This thread was propsed to me by Iminyourcloset in the comments of the UU Playstyle Classification Thread. This thread will basically just be a better version of the Playstyle Classification Thread, the way the categories were split up resulted in things just being kind of unnecessarily placed. This thread will categorize pokemon's roles on a team, as opposed to a pokemon's place in a certain play style.

Like the first thread this is meant to be community driven, so I'll start of by making a few and let everyone else submit their own pokemon to be added. To make things easier it would be great if everyone could follow the same general template as what I do, with a little description as to why it should be added. Thanks!

Role (Ex: Special Sweeper, Tank, Physical Wall)

Pokemon

Potential Sets:

Good On: (Ex: Hyper Offense, Stall, Bulky Offense)



Sweepers: Pokemon whose purpose in a team is to do as much damage as possible to the other team. Most sweepers have high offensive stats and powerful attacks but are usually easy to kill.
Physical Sweepers:


Mienshao
  • Potential Sets: Choice Scarf, Life Orb
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced, VoltTurn
Flygon
  • Potential Sets: Choice Scarf, Choice Band
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced, VoltTurn
Honchkrow
  • Potential Sets: Life Orb + Moxie
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced
Heracross
  • Potential Sets: Choice Scarf, Choice Band, Status Orb + Guts, Sub-3 Attacks
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Victini
  • Potential Sets: Choice Scarf, Choice Band
  • Good On: Offense, Balanced
Darmanitan
  • Potential Sets: Choice Scarf, Choice Band, Life Orb + Sheer Force, Sub/Endure + Belly Drum
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced
Krookodile​
  • Potential sets: Choice Scarf
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced
Sharpedo​
  • Potential sets: Protect+Speed Boost
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced
Crobat​
  • Potential sets: Choice Band
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced, VoltTurn
Arcanine​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb
  • Good On: Offense, Balanced
Azelf​
  • Potential sets: Choice Band
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, VoltTurn
Machamp​
  • Potential sets: No Guard + Substitute
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Cincinno​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb, Choice Band
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced
Special Sweepers:


Raikou
  • Potential Sets: Choice Specs, Life Orb
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced, VoltTurn, Rain
Chandelure
  • Potential Sets: Choice Specs, Choice Scarf, Sub-Pain Split
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced, Bulky Offense
Azelf​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb
  • Good on: Hyper Offense, Offense
Nidoking​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb + Sheer Force
  • Good On: Offense, Balanced
Roserade​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced,
Rotom-H​
  • Potential sets: Choice Scarf, Choice Specs
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Zapdos​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Zoroark​
  • Potential sets: Choice Scarf, Life Orb
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, VoltTurn
Yanmega​
  • Potential sets: Choice Specs
  • Good On: Offense, Balanced
Shaymin​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Galvantula​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb
  • Good On: Offense, Balanced


Set-Up Sweepers: Offensive pokemon that rely on boosting moves such as Dragon Dance, Swords Dance, or Calm Mind to sweep opposing teams. These pokemon have to rely on bulk or prediction to be able to safely set up.
Physical Set-Up Sweepers:


Scrafty
  • Potential Sets: Bulk Up, Dragon Dance
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Kingdra
  • Potential Sets: Dragon Dance
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced
Cobalion
  • Potential Sets: Swords Dance
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Weavile
  • Potential Sets: Swords Dance
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense
Bisharp
  • Potential Sets: Swords Dance
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Rhyperior
  • Potential Sets: Rock Polish, Sub-Swords Dance
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Heracross​
  • Potential sets: Sub Swords Dance
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense
Virizion​
  • Potential sets: Swords Dance
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense
Mew​
  • Potential sets: Swords Dance
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense
Special Set-Up Sweepers:


Raikou
  • Potential Sets: Sub-Calm Mind
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced
Togekiss
  • Potential Sets: Nasty Plot
  • Good On: Bulky Offense, Balanced
Zoroark
  • Potential Sets: Nasty Plot
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense
Porygon-Z
  • Potential Sets: Agility, Nasty Plot
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense
Suicune
  • Potential Sets: Calm Mind + RestTalk, Offensive Calm Mind
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Lilligant
  • Potential Sets: Quiver Dance
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced
Cobalion​
  • Potential sets: Calm Mind
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Empoleon​
  • Potential sets: Sub Petaya
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Meloetta​
  • Potential sets: Sub-Calm Mind
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Virizion​
  • Potential sets: Calm Mind
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced,
Mismagius
  • Potential Sets: Sub-Nasty Plot, Sub-Calm Mind
  • Good On: Offense, Balanced
Azelf
  • Potential Sets: Nasty Plot
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced


Tanks: Pokemon that balance bulk and power. Most Tanks have large HP stats but low speed. Their ability to take a hit an hit back makes them valuable members of a team.
Physical Tanks:


Snorlax
  • Potential Sets: Choice Band, Offensive, CurseLax
  • Good On: Offense, Balanced, Bulky Offense, Trick Room
Rhyperior
  • Potential Sets: Choice Band, Specially Defensive, Rock Polish
  • Good On: Offense, Balanced, Bulky Offense, Trick Room
Azumarill​
  • Potential sets: Choice Band
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Rain
Swampert​
  • Potential sets: Choice Band, Offensive
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Special Tanks:


Nidoqueen
  • Potential Sets: Sheer Force + Life Orb
  • Good On: Offense, Balanced, Bulky Offense
Cofagrigus
  • Potential Sets: Nasty Room
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Trick Room
Slowbro​
  • Potential sets: Choice Specs, Offensive
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Suicune​
  • Potential sets: CroCune, Offensive Calm Mind
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced


Supporters: Pokemon that are tasked with specific roles on a team. These pokemon may be fairly one dimensional but support their team well thanks to their stats and move pool.

Hazard Setters:

Froslass
  • Potential Sets: Suicude Spiker, Pain Split Spiker
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense
Azelf
  • Potential Sets: Suicude Stealth Rocker
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense
Roserade​
  • Potential sets: Specially Defensive Spiker
  • Good On: Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Mew​
  • Potential sets: Stealth Rock Support
  • Good On: Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Smeargle
  • Potential Sets: Suicude Lead
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense
Qwilfish
  • Potential Sets: Physically Defensive Spiker
  • Good On: Offense, Rain, Balanced
Stall Breakers:


Crobat
  • Potential Sets: Stallbreaker
  • Good On: Offense, Balanced, VoltTurn
Mew​
  • Potential sets: Stallbreaker
  • Good On: Bulky Offense, Balanced
Togekiss​
  • Potential sets: ParaFlinch
  • Good On: Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Scouts:


Mienshao
  • Potential Sets: Choice Scarf, Life Orb
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced, VoltTurn
Xatu​
  • Potential sets: Defensive Magic Bounce
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Cincinno​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb, Choice Band
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced
Clerics:


Umbreon
  • Potential Sets: Wish Support
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall


Walls: Pokemon made to take hits rather than dish them out. Walls have high defensive stats and typing which grant them important resistances. It is a wall's job to spread statuses, take hits, or phaze the opposing team.
Physical Walls:


Slowbro
  • Potential Sets: Defensive Wall, Thunder Wave Support
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Gligar
  • Potential Sets: Defensive Wall, Toxic Stall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Bronzong​
  • Potential sets: Physical Wall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Suicune​
  • Potential sets: Physical Wall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Swampert​
  • Potential sets: Physical Wall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Zapdos​
  • Potential sets: Physical Wall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Cresselia​
  • Potential sets: Physically Defensive
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Special Walls:


Umbreon
  • Potential Sets: Cleric, Toxic Stall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Snorlax
  • Potential Sets: RestTalk
  • Good On: Stall
Empoleon​
  • Potential sets: Special Wall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Registeel​
  • Potential sets: Special Wall,Thunder Wave Support
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Zapdos​
  • Potential sets: Specially Defensive
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall


Rapid Spinners: These pokemon are users of the move Rapid Spin, which removes Stealth Rocks, Spikes, and Toxic Spikes from your side of the field. These pokemon are usually built to take hits so they can rapid spin multiple times a game.
Defensive Rapid Spinners:


Hitmontop
  • Potential Sets: Physically Defense Rapid Spin
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Blastoise
  • Potential Sets: Physically Defense Rapid Spin
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Cryogonal
  • Potential Sets: Specially Defensive Rapid Spin
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall, Hail
Claydol
  • Potential Sets: Physically Defensive Rapid Spin, Specially Defensive Rapid Spin
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall, Hail
Offensive Rapid Spinners:


Kabutops
  • Potential Sets: Swords Dance
  • Good On: Offensive, Rain
Hitmontop​
  • Potential sets: Technitop
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Cryogonal
  • Potential Sets: Offensive Rapid Spin
  • Good On: Offensive, Hail


Spin Blockers: Spin blockers are Ghost types used to stop opposing Rapid Spinners from removing their hazards. Spin blockers usually serve other purposes than to just spin block however.
Defensive Spin Blockers:


Cofagrigus
  • Potential Sets: Physically Defensive
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Sableye
  • Potential Sets: Prankster Wall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Golurk
  • Potential Sets: Physically Defensive
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Dusclops
  • Potential Sets: Physically Defensive Curse
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Offensive Spin Blockers:


Chandelure
  • Potential Sets: Choice Specs, Choice Scarf, Sub-Pain Split
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced, Bulky Offense
Cofagrigus
  • Potential Sets: Nasty Room
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Trick Room
Mismagius
  • Potential Sets: Sub-Nasty Plot, Sub-Calm Mind
  • Good On: Offense, Balanced
Golurk
  • Potential Sets: Choice Band, Offensive
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced


Hail Users: Pokemon that utilize the benefits of Hail (100% accurate Blizzard, Ice Body, residual damage to non-ice types) to beat opposing teams. Every Hail team must have Abomasnow with Snow Warning on it.
Defensive Hail Users:


Abomasnow
  • Potential Sets: Sub-Leech Seed
  • Good On: Hail, Hail Stall
Walrein
  • Potential Sets: Ice Body + Sub-Protect
  • Good On: Hail, Hail Stall
Offensive Hail Users:


Abomasnow
  • Potential Sets: Special Attacker, Physical Attacker, Mixed Attacker
  • Good On: Hail
Rotom-F
  • Potential Sets: Choice Specs, Choice Scarf, Sub-Pain Split
  • Good On: Hail
Raikou
  • Potential Sets: Special Attacker + Weather Ball
  • Good On: Hail
Nidoqueen
  • Potential Sets: Special Attacker + Blizzard
  • Good On: Hail


Rain Dancers: Pokemon that use the move Rain Dance to create the weather Rain. While in Rain pokemon enjoy the benefits of activated abilities (Swift Swim, Hydration, Rain Dish), a 50% damage boost for Water attacks, and the moves Thunder and Hurricane having 100% accuracy.
Defensive Rain Dancers:


Blastoise
  • Potential Sets: Physically Defense Rapid Spin, Rain Support
  • Good On: Rain
Bronzong
  • Potential Sets: Rain Support
  • Good On: Rain
Sableye
  • Potential Sets: Prankster Rain Support
  • Good On: Rain
Offensive Rain Dancers:


Kingdra
  • Potential Sets: Physical Rain Sweeper, Special Rain Sweeper
  • Good On: Rain, Hyper Offense, Offense
Ludicolo
  • Potential Sets: Special Rain Sweeper
  • Good On: Rain
Tornadus
  • Potential Sets: Special Rain Sweeper
  • Good On: Rain, Hyper Offense, Offense


Rain Sweepers: Pokemon who use the Rain to sweep opposing teams. These pokemon do not commonly use Rain Dance, but instead rely on other members of their team to set up the Rain for them to sweep.
Physical Rain Sweepers:


Kabutops
  • Potential Sets: Swords Dance
  • Good On: Rain
Sharpedo
  • Potential Sets: Speed Boost + Life Orb
  • Good On: Rain, Offense, Hyper Offense
Special Rain Sweepers:


Raikou
  • Potential Sets: Life Orb, Choice Specs (Thunder Spam)
  • Good On: Rain
Omastar
  • Potential Sets: Life Orb, Shell Smash
  • Good On: Rain


Trick Room Setters: Pokemon who use the move Trick Room to sweep opposing teams. Trick Room reverses the turn order for 5 turns, making slower things go before faster things. Trick Room setters are characteristically bulky so they can set up Trick Room multiple times per game.
Physical Trick Room Setters:


Victini
  • Potential Sets: V-Create + Trick Room
  • Good On: Trick Room
Special Trick Room Setters:


Cofagrigus
  • Potential Sets: Nasty Room
  • Good On: Trick Room, Offense, Bulky Offense
Porygon2
  • Potential Sets: Offensive Trick Room
  • Good On: Trick Room


Trick Room Sweepers: Pokemon whose job it is to sweep opposing teams while under the effects of Trick Room. These pokemon are characteristically bulky with high attack stats and low speed.
Physical Trick Room Sweepers:


Druddigon
  • Potential Sets: Choice Band
  • Good On: Trick Room, Bulky Offense
Escavalier
  • Potential Sets: Choice Band
  • Good On: Trick Room, Bulky Offense
Rhyperior
  • Potential Sets: Choice Band
  • Good On: Trick Room, Bulky Offense


Baton Passers: Pokemon that use boosting moves such as Shell Smash, Quiver Dance, and Rock Polish in conjunction with Baton Pass. The goal of these pokemon is to pass stat boosts to offensive pokemon so the offensive pokemon can sweep the opposing team.

Swords Dance Baton Passers:


Ninjask
  • Potential Sets: Speed Boost + Swords Dance
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Baton Pass
Mew
  • Potential Sets: Swords Dance + Baton Pass
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Baton Pass
Meinshao
  • Potential Sets: Sub-Swords Dance + Baton Pass
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense
Nasty Plot Baton Passers:


Mew
  • Potential Sets: Nasty Plot + Baton Pass
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Baton Pass
Togekiss
  • Potential Sets: Nasty Plot + Baton Pass
  • Good On: Bulky Offense, Baton Pass
Shell Smash Baton Passers:


Smeargle
  • Potential Sets: Suicude Baton Passer
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Baton Pass
Gorebyss
  • Potential Sets: Offensive Baton Passer
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Baton Pass
Quiver Dance Baton Passers:


Venomoth
  • Potential Sets: Offensive Baton Passer
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Baton Pass
 
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atomicllamas

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Hey PTJon7, I think this thread has far better organization.

Offensive Rain Dancer:

Tornadus

Rain Dance set

Good on: Rain, Hyper Offense

(Also shouldn't Ludicolo and Kingdra also be in included in Rain Sweeper? Its probs redundant though.)

For Baton Passers:

Smash Passers:

Smeargle

Smash Pass Set

Good on: Pure Baton Pass

Gorebyss

Smash Pass Set

Good on: Pure Pass, Offense, Rain

Quiver Passers:

Venemoth

Quiver Pass set

Good on: Pure pass, Offense, Bulky Offense

Venemoth for sure deserves a mention as a baton passer as it is one of the best baton passers in the tier, if not flat out the best, its just a shame it sees so little usage :/
 

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Here, I got a couple for ya:


Physical Setup Sweepers

Cobalion

  • Potential sets: Swords Dance
  • Good on: Offense, Balanced
Weavile

  • Potential sets: Swords Dance
  • Good on: Offense, Balanced
Bisharp

  • Potential sets: Sub-Swords Dance
  • Good on: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Rhyperior

  • Potential sets: Rock Polish, Sub-Swords Dance (I haven't seen this set in action but I've heard of it and figured it'd be worth a mention.)
  • Good on: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced

Physical Sweepers


Honchkrow

  • Potential sets: Life Orb, Sub-Roost
  • Good on: Offense, Balanced

Heracross

  • Potential sets: Choice Scarf, Choice Band, Status Orb
  • Good on: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Victini

  • Potential sets: Choice Scarf, Choice Band
  • Good on: Offense, Balanced
Darmanitan

  • Potential sets: Choice Scarf, Choice Band, Life Orb, Sub-Belly Drum
  • Good on: Offense, Balanced

I could go on and on but I really don't want to swallow up possible sets from half the tier so I'll let whoever else dig in and get what they want. Also for the "Utilities" section you could just put "Supporters". I'm not sure if it'll change anything as they seem almost synonymous with eachother, but it could clear up some confusion possibly. Like usually the word "Utility" according to Smogon is:


A Pokemon who is capable of performing a large variety of tasks, and is usually tailored to one specific task that the team requires. Often, this will be because of a combination of good base stats and a wide movepool.Jirachi is an excellent utility Pokemon, as it is capable of functioning as an effective lead, a defensive supporter, or an offensive sweeper, both physical and special. However, it can only be one of these positions at a time.
While that's kinda what most of the Pokemon in that section do, some of them (some listed, some who can fit this category but aren't listed) are usually assigned to do one specific job, like Froslass for instance. She's a pretty straightforward and (in some cases) one-dimensional Pokemon, but she does her job incredibly well compared to most other Pokemon. Just some food for thought, I guess :P
 
Hey, another thing, PTJon7, I think in the potential sets, you should make the sets go in order of usage. i.e.:
Heracross
Potential sets: Choice Scarf, Choice Band (Scarf is more commonly used)
Just an idea. Anyway, i'll be posting many many sets later today, so be prepared:)

Edit- I also feel like TR setter and sweepers is kind of redundant; same with rain. Just put them under TR/Rain and do sub-categories like you did with Physical/Special sweepers
 

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I don't have much time but firstly Victini can be used as a trick room setter as it would set more speed when it V-creates. Also Venomoth can baton pass and Mismagius is an offensive spin blocker
 
Sweepers

Special Sweepers:


Azelf​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb
  • Good on: Hyper Offense, Offense, Hyper Offense, Balanced
Nidoking​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb, Choice Scarf
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Roserade​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced,
Rotom-H​
  • Potential sets: Choice Scarf, Choice Specs
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Zapdos​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Zoroark​
  • Potential sets: Choice Scarf, Life Orb
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, VoltTurn
Yanmega​
  • Potential sets: Choice Specs
  • Good On: Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Shaymin​
  • Potential sets: Life Orb
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall

Physical sweepers:


Krookodile​
  • Potential sets: Choice Scarf
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced, Bulky Offense

Set-Up Sweepers

Physical Set-up Sweepers:


Heracross​
  • Potential sets: Sub Swords Dance
  • Good On: Bulky Offense, Stall
Sharpedo​
  • Potential sets: Protect+Speed Boost
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall, VoltTurn
Virizion​
  • Potential sets: Swords Dance
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense
Mew​
  • Potential sets: Swords Dance
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall, VoltTurn

Special Set-Up Sweepers


Cobalion​
  • Potential sets: Calm Mind
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense
Empoleon​
  • Potential sets: Sub Petaya
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Meloetta​
  • Potential sets: Sub CM
  • Good On: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Porygon-Z​
  • Potential sets: Agility, Nasty Plot
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Yanmega​
  • Potential sets: Protect+Speed Boost
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall, VoltTurn
Virizion​
  • Potential sets: Calm Mind
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Zoroark​
  • Potential sets: Nasty Plot
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense
Mismagius​
  • Potential sets: Sub CM/Nasty Plot
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall, VoltTurn

Tanks

Physical Tanks


Azumarill​
  • Potential sets: Choice Band
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Slowbro​
  • Potential sets: Choice Specs, Offensive
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Swampert​
  • Potential sets: Choice Band, Offensive
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall

Special Tanks


Suicune​
  • Potential sets: CroCune, Offensive CM
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced

Utilities

Ambipom​
  • Potential sets: Scout
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, VoltTurn
Roserade​
  • Potential sets: Specially Defensive Spiker
  • Good On: Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Togekiss​
  • Potential sets: ParaFlinch
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Xatu​
  • Potential sets: Magic Bounce
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall

Walls

Physical Walls


Bronzong​
  • Potential sets: Physical Wall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Suicune​
  • Potential sets: Physical Wall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Swampert​
  • Potential sets: Physical Wall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Zapdos​
  • Potential sets: Physical Wall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall

Special Walls


Empoleon​
  • Potential sets: Special Wall
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Registeel​
  • Potential sets: Special Wall,Thunder Wave Support
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall
Zapdos​
  • Potential sets: Specially Defensive
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall

Rapid Spinners

Defensive Rapid Spinners


Claydol​
  • Potential sets: Bulky Rapid Spinner, Trick
  • Good On: Balanced, Stall

Offensive Rapid Spinners

Hitmontop​
  • Potential sets: Technitop (Dual/Triple priority + Rapid Spin)
  • Good On: Hyper Offense, Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Although it's uncommon, it makes for a great revenge killer with 4 types of priority (Mach/Bullet/Sucker Punch, and Fake Out). I think the best set is Mach/Sucker with CC and Rapid Spin.


@PTJon7: I tried to copy the format as close as possible, if not perfect, so you just have to copy+paste.

@Everyone mad at me for taking a ton of pokemon: I'm just trying to fill up the thread quickly so newer players can get the full effect of the thread immediately without having to wait for people to put up 3/4 pokes at a time
 
I would like to suggest adding VoltTurn to Xatu's suggested playstyles (this should be a no-brainer, really). It gets U-Turn it self, and Magic Bounce is absolutely crucial for keeping hazards off of the player's field, hazards of course being the most reliable way to deal with VoltTurn. I don't think I've ever faced a VoltTurn team without Xatu.

This is more of a question than anything else really; why would you suggest any kind of sweeper for a stall team? Isn't the point of stall to gradually wear down an opponent with residual damage, rather than using a sweeper to muscle through the opponent? As I said before, this is more of a question than anything else really, so if someone can explain this there shouldn't be a problem.

Otherwise, great work with this thread! :)
 

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Wow. PTJon7, this thread is amazing. Thank you for making it so perfect! :D
For Cryogonal, I would list it under rapid spinners as offensive. It's weak to SR, but doesn't care about (Toxic) Spikes and has recovery unlike any of the others. Plus, it doesn't take hail damage, and can blizzard spam for a hail team if necessary.
Also, in my personal opinion, I would give Claydol a mention under defensive rapid spinners, but only because of its niche to resist SR, which isn't even that good. But it's something. However, if you feel claydol just kinda sucks too much (I don't blame you, I feel similarly) you can go ahead and just leave it off.


- Potential Sets: Offensive Rapid Spin, Defensive Rapid Spin (idk if this one should be mentioned; it's pitiful defense is just kinda intolerable)
- Good On: Hail, Offense (I guess)


- Potential Sets: Physically Defensive, Specially Defensive
- Good On: Balance, Stall

I'm sorry, idk how to use bullet points o_o.
 
Iminyourcloset;4717810 Also said:
Claydol[/B] a mention under defensive rapid spinners, but only because of its niche to resist SR, which isn't even that good. But it's something. However, if you feel claydol just kinda sucks too much (I don't blame you, I feel similarly) you can go ahead and just leave it off.



- Potential Sets: Physically Defensive, Specially Defensive
- Good On: Balance, Stall

I'm sorry, idk how to use bullet points o_o.
Claydol's main edge on the other UU rapid spin users is not just a SR resist, but access to levitate. With a combination of levitate and a SR resistance, claydol will take the least amount of damage to entry hazards of any rapid spin user. An immunity to toxic spikes is also very helpful, as other rapid spin users (bar cryogonal) will have to forfeit their longevity in order to spin toxic spikes away. Despite these advantages, its still the most prone to spin-blockers, decreasing its viability.
 

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Hey PTJon, great work on this thread! Small thing, I'd like to propose that you add a "breakers" category, or whatever you want to call them, for things that hit obscenely hard, but don't actually sweep teams. This would be for stuff like Specs Tinted Lens Yanmega, CB Victini/Darmanitan, CB Flygon, etc. They do lots of damage, but none of them are really "sweepers" persay.

And for my additions:
Set-up Sweepers
Special:
Kingdra
-Potential Sets: Rain Dance
-Good On: Hyper + Standard Offense, Balance

Tanks
Swampert
-Potential Sets: Choice Band, Offensive Stealth Rock, Defensive Stealth Rock
- Good on: uhh... anything except Hyper Offense really. Even then CB isn't /that/ bad. <_<

Supporters
Qwilfish
-Potential Sets: Defensive Spikes, Suicide Rain Dance Lead
-Good On: Balance, Semi and Full Stall, Rain if that's your kind of thing.

Walls
Cresselia
-Potential Sets: Defensive wall, SubCM
-Good On: Stall and Semi-Stall. Balanced as well since it spreads paralysis very nicely.
 

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I got some more for ya. But before I make my suggestions I wanna say that on Bassmaster4's post, that Rotom-H should be listed as being good on VoltTurn. I'm also curious why Sharpedo and Yanmega are listed as being good on VoltTurn, though I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation. Also the fact that some sweepers are listed as being good in Stall in his posts, I'm curious about that too, unless he's hinting at the sweepers powering through the opponent's team after they've been worn down, in which case I'd rather suggest Semi-Stall for those purposes than full-tilt. But anyway...


Physical Sweepers
Crobat

  • Potential Sets: Choice Band
  • Good on: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced, VoltTurn
Arcanine

  • Potential Sets: Life Orb
  • Good on: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced
Azelf

  • Potential sets: Choice Band
  • Good on: Offense, Balanced, VoltTurn
Machamp

  • Potential sets: Substitute (Not sure if this can be considered as being a setup sweeper or not, I'll leave that up to you)
  • Good on: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced

Supporters


Hazard Setters

Qwilfish

  • Potential sets: Physically Defensive Spikes/Toxic Spikes
  • Good on: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall
Mew

  • Potential sets: Support, Stealth Rock
  • Good on: Offense, Bulky Offense, Balanced, Stall

Stallbreakers


Mew

  • Potential sets: Stallbreaker
  • Good on: Bulky Offense, Balanced
Uh...Hail?


Abomasnow (This is kind of a super special case, I'm listing it because the hail it brings supports its team. However you could list this under Hail users, but I'm assuming you didn't consider it since you had Walrein and Rotom-F listed already.)

  • Potential sets: SubSeed, Special Attacker, Physical Attacker, Mixed
  • Good on: Hail, Hail Stall

Offensive Hail Abusers (Most of these I'm listing are regular pokes who are able to spam 100% accurate Blizzards in hail. I don't know if this counts but it's usable, right? I ain't gonna list too many because...lots of stuff gets Blizzard, but I do think it's worth considering the few I got.)




Raikou

  • Potential sets: Special Attacker w/Weather Ball
  • Good on: Hail
Nidoqueen

  • Potential sets: Special Attacker
  • Good on: Hail
Porygon2

  • Potential sets: Duck Tank
  • Good on: Hail
 
I think you need a Cleric:
Clerics
*Sprite* Umbreon
  • Potential Sets: Wish Support
  • Good on: Stall, Semi-Stall, Balanced(?)
Yep. Umbreon. Sorry, I don't know how to do sprites. Balanced is listed, as it can have some utility with healing sweepers and such, but I'm not sure about that.
I hope this makes it!
 
Haha as soon as I saw that I went and tried it out myseld, I didn't even know Rhyperior learned Swords Dance. Not that bad really, Rhyperior can often force a switch thanks to it's bulk and resistances. After that I tried Double Dance Rhyperior (Rock Polish + Swords Dance) which was fun, but ultimately not too viable.
 
Remove Ambipom from "Scouts", it isn't viable in UU despite being part of the tier and is not a good user of U-turn. As a scout, Mienshao and Cinccino are far superior.

Trick Room sweepers:

Rhyperior

Potential Sets: Choice Band, Life Orb
Good on: Trick Room, Bulky Offense

Special Setup Sweepers:

Azelf

Potential Sets: Nasty Plot
Good on: Hyper Offense, Offense, Balanced

Mismagius

Potential Sets: Nasty Plot
Good on: Hyper Offense, Offense

Scolipede

Potential Sets: Swords Dance
Good on: Offense, Balanced, Hyper Offense

Spinblockers:


Dusclops

Potential Sets: Physically Defensive Curse
Good on: Stall

Call me crazy, but if we put Claydol and Ambipom on the list, Dusclops could be on here too.

Sweepers:

Cinccino

Potential Sets: Life Orb, Choice Band
Good on: Balance, Offense, Hyper Offense

Galvantula

Potential Sets: Life Orb
Good on: Balance, Offense, Hyper Offense
 

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Wow this thread is way too good to let die is there some reason I don't know about why nobody is posting!?


Physical Sweeper (Set Up)

Pokemon: Togekiss

Potential Sets: Work Up

Good On: Hyper offense, bulky offense


Special Sweeper (Set Up)

Pokemon: Chandelure

Potential Sets: Flame Charge

Good On: not to many teams but it works so well on my hail team idk

Froslass can go away right? And might as well get rid of Victini too to save time ehehehhehe
 

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Wow this thread is way too good to let die is there some reason I don't know about why nobody is posting!?


Physical Sweeper (Set Up)

Pokemon: Togekiss

Potential Sets: Work Up

Good On: Hyper offense, bulky offense


Special Sweeper (Set Up)

Pokemon: Chandelure

Potential Sets: Flame Charge

Good On: not to many teams but it works so well on my hail team idk

Froslass can go away right? And might as well get rid of Victini too to save time ehehehhehe
The majority of sets on this thread are common/standard effective sets...Work Up Kiss may be cool, but it actually got scrapped on its analysis when they updated it for a reason...Same deal with Flame Charge Chandelure. While these sets can work on their own right, they're not necessarily the most effective sets to point out to new people trying to learn which Pokemon can do what and which team they do it on...
 

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Analysis are done by usually a single person and checked for quality by cute little stamps by 2 or 3 people with rarely more than one or two other people giving input making almost all UU analysis done by at most 6 or maybe 7 people. This is efficient and almost all the analysis are extremely good, professional even because the GP people but this thread I thought was supposed to be community driven. Of course if nobody posts in it then that won't work so yeah fine but if I post a set and if I am (much to many people's dismay I am sure) part of the community then I should at least be able to justify why the sets are effective right?

I forgot to do that in my post so let me do that here eheh

Work Up Togekiss is actually obnoxiously strong being able to OHKO its former counters like Raikou and Zapdos with SR support assuming it uses a LO with Extremespeed. I am sure Drain Punch will maul if not outright KO Snorlax while healing Togekiss sufficiently, the only big problem is lack of bulk and a SR weakness which of course can be worked around. Work Up Togekiss has very very few defensive counters making it almost as good as a stallbreaker as NP Togekiss.

Flame Charge Chandelure uses maximum speed to get a chance to sweep if it can but otherwise it is still effective as simply a kind of tank (absorbs fire moves and moves it is immune to easily). Even without any boosting item he is still obnoxiously strong and can do its job of killing walls badly like Blastoise if they dare switch in, they are going to be taking like 60 or 70% at least after FB and EB so you can easily sweep through them later with for instance a Kingdra. It's not like Chandelure ever really needed four moves absolutely so giving him sweeping chances while maintaining wallbreaking power is very useful.
 
Trick Room setters:

Slowking

Potential Sets: Nasty Plot+Trick Room, Offensive Trick Room
Good on: Trick Room

Dusclops

Potential Sets: Trick Room Support
Good on: Trick Room

Bronzong
Potential Sets: Trick Room Support, Offensive Trick Room
Good on: Trick Room

Physical Set-Up Sweepers:

Scolipede

Potential Sets: Swords Dance, SubSalac
Good on: Offense, Balance, Bulky Offense

Defensive Spinblockers:

Mismagius

Potential Sets: Support
Good on: Balanced, Stall

Hazard Setters:

Scolipede

Potential Sets: Spikes+3 Attacks
Good on: Offense, Balance

Accelgor

Potential Sets: Spikes+3 Attacks
Good on: Offense, Balance

Crustle

Potential Sets: Custap lead
Good on: Offense, Balance

Druddigon

Potential Sets: ParaShuffler
Good on: Balance, Stall

Stallbreakers:

Scrafty

Potential Sets: Bulk Up, Dragon Dance
Good on: Offense, Balance, Bulky Offense
 

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