Project UU OM Megathread

[BoingK]

Good morning! AAA just had a viability rankings update, so here are the shifts for AAAUU!

Gains
Archaludon (B -> B-)
Landorus-T (B -> B-)
Meloetta (B -> C)
Zapdos-Galar (B -> C)
Zoroark-Hisui (B -> C)
Blissey (B -> B-)
Deoxys-Defense (B -> B-)
Terrakion (B -> B-)

Losses
Moltres (UR -> B)
Cobalion (C -> B)
Iron Treads (B- -> B)
Iron Crown (C -> B)

 

[Notgamingreally]

Another bh vr update let’s look at gains and loses
Gains:
arc dark but I wanna use some other arc form and I’m not fighting weak
dondozo competition woo
Loses:
probably a sunsteel user check idk what this is without gren + luc.
big boy damage gone, although we still have kyub and stuff
speed control that’s about it.
don’t know what this would do without mega zam + flutter since arc normal is viableish
Prolly missed stuff

 

[BoingK]

The first UUOM Ban Slate is here!
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​	BoingK​	Glory​	TDLoriat​	matte​	GlalieGoesBoom​	RESULT
Zapdos-Galar​	BAN​	BAN​	BAN​	DNB​	BAN​	4-1-0 BAN​
Zarude​	DNB​	BAN​	DNB​	BAN​	BAN​	2-3-0 BAN​
Terrakion​	DNB​	DNB​	DNB​	DNB​	DNB​	0-5-0 DNB​
Archaludon​	ABS​	DNB​	ABS​	ABS​	DNB​	0-2-3 DNB​
Light Clay​	BAN​	BAN​	BAN​	BAN​	BAN​	5-0-0 BAN​

Zapdos-Galar, Zarude, and Light Clay have been sent to AAAUUBL!

When people started playing the tier after the most recent VR drops and losses, it quickly became apparent that Zapdos-Galar was one of the scariest Pokemon in the tier. It forces a frankly infuriating amount of pressure in the builder and can always make progress in play between its powerful, low drawback STABs, and its access to Knock Off, U-Turn. There is nothing that can outright check it - options like Fluffy Diancie or Landorus always need to be healthy to check SoR Banded variants but lose to Magic Guard or Mold Breaker variants long term. Offensive counterplay looks fine until Zapdos-Galar slaps a Scarf on and ruins your breaker. It can run a multitude of items and sets and overall is just not healthy for the tier's development, and so in spite of the relatively small sample size of games, a resounding majority of the council were convinced it was banworthy.

Another insanely strong Pokemon with limited counterplay. Zarude will always contribute to a battle thanks to its access to the powerful STAB Knock Off, Grassy Terrain that it sets - powering up its grass attacks and providing it a strong priority option in Grassy Glide, while also providing passive healing for its team - and U-Turn. Banded sets are the most common, but Zarude can easily run other items like HDB and Life Orb thanks to its access to Swords Dance, Taunt, and other valuable utility moves that ruin most would-be-walls. There is a future in which we may retest Zarude (and any other thing we ban) after the next VR drops but a majority of the council felt that in its current state the meta is not geared to handle the funky monkey.

One thing we almost certainly won't be freeing any time soon is Light Clay. Screens are stupid and have stupid potential in this tier - it does not need more tools.

Thank you for playing the tier so far! We will continue to keep an eye on everything and hope you enjoy the rest of AAAPL (if you're playing or building in it)!​

 

[Frito]

Is there any reason besides consistency with the other UU OMs that AAA UU isn't done by usage based tiering? The ladder seems to be active enough to be done by usage, and I think that would generally preferable to VR based tiering (as seen with previous iterations of UUbers failing with VR based tiering, but being more stable with usage based tiering). Sorry if this isn't appropriate for this thread, but in doing some research, this question piqued my curiousity.

 

[TDLoriat]

The UU distinction is based on viability rankings because of some metagames have too little activity to be accurately based on ladder usage. Even AAA is not a large enough sample size to avoid bias from one very successful ladder player. The VR distinction is a relatively arbitrary cut off, but it allows for more objective tiering.

 

[Notgamingreally]

Is there any reason why uu mnm isn’t here? I think there’s a lot of neat potential with stuff like zapdos galar.

 

[Isaiah]

Is there any reason why uu mnm isn’t here? I think there’s a lot of neat potential with stuff like zapdos galar.

The permaladders not shown haven't been picked up by anyone to write up their UU posts yet, but at least having the original post for all of them is planned.

 

[dhelmise]

Some more GG UU changes from our most recent VR slate:

Gods:

Gain: ​

Lose: ​

Receivers:

Gain: ​

Lose: ​

 

[Clas]

The permaladders not shown haven't been picked up by anyone to write up their UU posts yet, but at least having the original post for all of them is planned.

ill do it

Spoiler

Mix and Mega UU​

Banlist: Anything banned from Mix and Mega, in addition to:
Pokemon:

Mix and Mega OU

• Arcanine-Hisui
• Arceus
• Arceus-Fairy
• Arceus-Ghost
• Arceus-Ground
• Arceus-Water
• Baxcalibur
• Calyrex-Ice
• Chien-Pao
• Clodsire
• Corviknight
• Darkrai
• Dragonite
• Eternatus
• Garganacl
• Great Tusk
• Heatran
• Hippowdon
• Ho-Oh
• Iron Boulder
• Kilowattrel
• Kingambit
• Lugia
• Lunala
• Magearna
• Mandibuzz
• Milotic
• Pecharunt
• Raging Bolt
• Regieleki
• Samurott-Hisui
• Sandy Shocks
• Scream Tail
• Slowbro
• Slowking-Galar
• Spectrier
• Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
• Weavile
• Zamazenta
• Zapdos

Mix and Mega UUBL

Nothing yet

Viability Rankings

Nothing yet

Challenge Code

/chall [Gen 9] Mix and Mega @@@ -Arcanine-Hisui, -Arceus, -Arceus-Fairy, -Arceus-Ghost, -Arceus-Ground, -Arceus-Water, -Baxcalibur, -Calyrex-Ice, -Chien-Pao, -Clodsire, -Corviknight, -Darkrai, -Dragonite, -Eternatus, -Garganacl, -Great Tusk, -Heatran, -Hippowdon, -Ho-Oh, -Iron Boulder, -Kilowattrel, -Kingambit, -Lugia, -Lunala, -Magearna, -Mandibuzz, -Milotic, -Pecharunt, -Raging Bolt, -Regieleki, -Samurott-Hisui, -Sandy Shocks, -Scream Tail, -Slowbro, -Slowking-Galar, -Spectrier, -Urshifu-R, -Weavile, -Zamazenta, -Zapdos