Pet Mod VaporeMons - Randbats Set Submissions Open

G-Luke · Sep 17, 2023

Some of the smaller low-key buffs to discuss.

Chandelure looks really solid as a Choice Specs user now that it shed its SR weakness and a weakness in general with Smelt, and Chisel will be another easy to punish factor in the mix. Ghost Fire isn't perfect and 80 Speed is as trash as ever but I will look forward to at least testing this out.

Thundurus is a major threat in Vape already, and gaining Knock Off will imo easily put it in top tiers, A rank easily. It frankly is the best progress maker in the game, knock turn + Thunderbolt can rack up an INSANE amount of chip versus would be walls like Slowking-Galar, and Ting-Lu with its lack of Recovery should be very apprehensive if it's facing this Pokémon alongside a Ghost type.

Honest question since I have been it of the loop, how has most of the custom moves been in the recent metagame? I know Shrapnel Shot keeps Scissor viable, and that Chisel is famously good alongside Chain Lightning [Iron Hands], but how have slot of the other moves fared? Is Healing Stones still annoying? Is Peekaboo used at all?

Beaf Cultist · Sep 18, 2023

G-Luke said:
Honest question since I have been it of the loop, how has most of the custom moves been in the recent metagame? I know Shrapnel Shot keeps Scissor viable, and that Chisel is famously good alongside Chain Lightning [Iron Hands], but how have slot of the other moves fared? Is Healing Stones still annoying? Is Peekaboo used at all?

Going down the list,
Hazard setting moves are basically irrelevant since nothing that learns them is better than the base users. :magnezone:

losing Electroweb removed the only mon that ran it outside of Webs cheese, so you’ll only see the occasional :raichu-alola:

/

webs nowadays.
With the Sand Clock nerf, Meteor Beam is going to be a lot harder to slot, but Power Herb :Sandy-Shocks:

definitely has potential, especially on Sand. :glimmora:

can also use it in theory, but that set has been seriously underwhelming so far.
Nothing runs Skull Bash. People have experimented with :iron-Treads:

and

but overall you’re not seeing this move in serious play currently.
As :goodra-hisui:

falls out of favor, the only real Shelter user now is :Slowbro:

, but it is very much a real Shelter user. Somewhat underused for how good it is - Tera Shard sets need more exploration.
Healing Stones has likely been revitalized by the new distribution. In the previous meta, most of the setters were pretty terrible, so you’d only rarely see something like a Healing Stones :Hatterene:

or defensive :Mew:

. With the addition of setters like :shaymin:

and

, slotting stones should be a lot easier.
Shrapnel Shot is only seen on :Scizor:

, though

also has some potential.
Jungle Healing is great on :Tsareena:

, but

is pretty bad so you don’t really see it.
Life Dew was mostly only seen on :goodra-hisui:

, so in the current meta it’s quite rare, but mons like :hatterene:

and

should be able to use it well.
Storm Throw is a niche option on :crabominable:

for sets that want more power than Drain Punch without the defense drops from Close Combat.
Frost Breath has no OU users. Physical :greninja:

might run False Surrender, but otherwise it also has no OU users.
Snipe Shot is of course the main thing putting :inteleon:

in OU, though that’s also the only mon you’ll see running it.
The only real Choke user in OU is :basculegion:

.
Cutting Remark is a niche option on physical :hoopa-unbound:

, though otherwise nothing should run it.
Defog :moltres:

is a stellar option (as is :mandibuzz:

I suppose), but otherwise nothing has changed.
Chain Lightning :iron-hands:

is very real. People have also experimented with it on :thundurus:

to mixed results.
Nothing runs Hazardous Waste.
Nothing runs Pluck.
Nothing runs Wind Breaker.
Nothing runs Throat Chop besides :zapdos-Galar:

but nobody has used that mon yet.
Chisel is quite good on a few different mons, most notably :breloom:

, though the Sand Clock nerf unfortunately killed the viability of SD Chisel :garchomp:

(rest in peace).
Parry was always going to be niche, but nothing has used it effectively so far.
Screens :grimmsnarl:

likes the option of running Peekaboo, and :tsareena:

can use it effectively as well. Move needs more exploration.
Many offensive :mew:

sets run Psycho Boost, but :mew:

is unfortunately totally outclassed currently by other special breakers.
Nothing runs Rage Fist or Raging Fury. Apparently we gave :infernape:

Raging Fury though, so have fun with that lol.
Accelerock is good on :Lycanroc-Dusk:

with Chisel, as well as the occasional Choice Band :tyranitar:

.
Rollout of course has a ton of viable abusers, but some options include :Great-Tusk:

,

, and

.
Round has fewer abusers, but a few mons still appreciate it such as :Scream-Tail:

,

,

, and

.
Nothing has run Rekindle successfully.

Overall, most moves have at least one OU user, but the only ones I would recommend prepping for specifically are Healing Stones, Chain Lightning, and Rollout. The rest are either rare or can be handled through normal means. Also some of the more recent move additions need a lot more exploration (looking specifically at Peekaboo and Raging Fury here).

Yoshiblaze · Sep 18, 2023

Beaf Cultist said:
Cutting Remark is a niche option on physical , though otherwise nothing should run it.

I won't stand for this Kleavor erasure smh...

Jokes aside (though if you're gonna try to use Kleavor in OU you really do need Cutting Remark), I don't have much to add to this analysis (aside from the the slight nitpick of Gapdos and to a lesser extent Roaring Moon using Throat Chop (I think I was the only one who ran the latter, but the 5 extra BP was a thing), but both have Knock Off now), so to not make this a one liner, I'm gonna go over how some of the good Pokemon of old have changed with the DLC

:baxcalibur:

I am very glad we banned this before the DLC came out, I was NOT trying to play against Scale Shot Bax on Veil
:roaring moon:

This thing was already absolutely terrifying, getting its Proto-boosts from Glowking's Snow, but now it has Knock Off and Alolan Ninetales LMAO, have fun
:iron valiant:

Didn't get anything directly (it's not using Vacuum Wave, as cool as it is) but it has a new friend in Misty Surge Weezing-G, which got a bunch of buffs in Life Dew and Healing Stones, giving it the option to activate Rune Drive without an item while not having to settle with teaming up with Revavroom-Ruchbah. Not the craziest thing in the world, but it's nice
:basculegion:

Rain already goes kinda crazy, but without even talking about getting Manaphy back, the best physical Rain abuser gets a huge buff in Flip Turn, letting bully teams way more easily now when it doesn't have to commit to anything
:crabominable:

Got Knock Off from the DLC, but jokes on you it actually already had Knock Off from its buff. Same thing happened with High Horsepower Revavroom, Knock Off Tsareena, and Poltergeist Decidueye.
:samurott-hisui:

Flip Turn is fun but it doesn't exactly have the moveslots for it, so it's more or lessi n the same spot. Kinda fun in a VaporeMons context to take advantage of incoming Covert Cloak mons, but you can just Knock them
:meloetta-pirouette:

Speaking of kinda crazy mons getting Knock Off back, this is a HUGE buff to Melo-P, as its biggest weakness was not being able to deal with Ghost-types without a boost. Knock Off means that Gholdengo and Skeledirge aren't safe and Moltres gets its boots removed, making Melo-P way scarier than it already was (which is saying a lot)
:thundurus:

This mon has seen a meteoric rise recently thanks to the power of Battle Spines being shown off more and it just got even better with the amazing Knock Off, as well as Weather Ball to a lesser extent, solidifying Thundurus as "Progress: The Pokemon"
:tornadus-therian:

Also Knocks again too
:walking wake:

Not much has changed for Wake in VaporeMons, so you can imagine that Flip Turn helps it as much as it does in OU
:inteleon:

Even after losing Sniper, Snipe Shot is the reason why Inteleon still has some sort of place in OU since it's still quite powerful. That said, getting Scald is certainly noteworthy
:dragalge:

Color Change's biggest drawback is that its users won't have STAB on their attacks 99% of the time, so Dragalge gaining Scald really helps it deal with that drawback since Scald burns get around it being passive
:copperajah:

This mon sucks, but it's no longer walled by Corviknight since it got Heat Crash back, that's something. Also has Knock
:ceruledge:

While Choke is great, Poltergeist is extremely neat for the extra power on Swords Dance sets at the cost of utility, esp since you already trade power for utility when you use Parry over CC
:scizor:

Kinda strapped for moveslots, but Shrapnel Shot Scizor is now even scarier to switch into when it can hit switch-ins with any of Knock Off, Dual Wingbeat, or the preexisting Close Combat. Bug Bite is also nice if you're planning on staying in
:goodra-hisui:

Really wishes it got Scald like Kalos Goodra did, but it'll take Knock Off
:vaporeon:

Flip Turn is still obviously a buff to this, though turns spent pivoting means it's not clicking Muddy Water which is unfortunate. Also got Scald.
:azumarill:

Getting Knock Off back gives it a nice coverage move while also adding to its decent amount of defensive utility between its typing and Life Dew
:slowking:

Scald is obviously huge for both of these. In a VaporeMons context, it makes Tera Shard Slowbro a lot less passive when it doesn't have STAB on Future Sight
:bellibolt:

Toxic is great, but buffed Bellibolt already kinda has 4MSS
:tyranitar:

In just a bit of time, TTar got Chisel, Accelerock, AND Knock Off, it might be back (ignore the Great Tusk and Iron Valiant that are still there)
:mew:

This thing got like a billion relevant moves, namely Toxic, Knock Off, Scald, Haze, and Poltergeist. Tera Shard variants become a lot better at being walls with a ton more utility while offensive variants gain a couple high BP moves

Very exciting times all around, looking forward to seeing how things shape up over the upcoming week!

Yoshiblaze · Sep 23, 2023

Popping in rq to announce that we'll have another playtesting roomtour tomorrow at 4 PM EST at DragonHeaven's new link here: http://petmodsdh.com/

See you there!

Yoshiblaze · Sep 24, 2023

Another roomtour is in the books!

Tour #4 - VaporeMons - Double Elimination - 7 Entrants
1st: HydreigonTheChild
2nd: The Damned
3rd: Mintly
4th: Totally_Odette

VaporeMons Roomtour Usage Stats

Code:

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Ogerpon-Wellspring |    8 |  36.36% |  50.00% |
| 2    | Iron Hands         |    6 |  27.27% |  33.33% |
| 3    | Basculegion        |    5 |  22.73% |  40.00% |
| 3    | Pelipper           |    5 |  22.73% |  40.00% |
| 3    | Chandelure         |    5 |  22.73% |  40.00% |
| 3    | Ogerpon-Hearthflame |    5 |  22.73% |  40.00% |
| 3    | Shaymin            |    5 |  22.73% |  20.00% |
| 8    | Gliscor            |    4 |  18.18% | 100.00% |
| 8    | Kingambit          |    4 |  18.18% |  75.00% |
| 8    | Iron Treads        |    4 |  18.18% |  50.00% |
| 8    | Jirachi            |    4 |  18.18% |  50.00% |
| 8    | Shiftry            |    4 |  18.18% |  50.00% |
| 8    | Ninetales-Alola    |    4 |  18.18% |  50.00% |
| 8    | Fezandipiti        |    4 |  18.18% |  50.00% |
| 8    | Roaring Moon       |    4 |  18.18% |  50.00% |
| 8    | Palafin            |    4 |  18.18% |  50.00% |
| 17   | Garganacl          |    3 |  13.64% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Iron Valiant       |    3 |  13.64% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Scream Tail        |    3 |  13.64% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Cinderace          |    3 |  13.64% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Ariados            |    3 |  13.64% |  66.67% |
| 17   | Ribombee           |    3 |  13.64% |  66.67% |
| 17   | Okidogi            |    3 |  13.64% |  66.67% |
| 17   | Oricorio-Pom-Pom   |    3 |  13.64% |  66.67% |
| 17   | Pyroar             |    3 |  13.64% |  66.67% |
| 26   | Samurott-Hisui     |    2 |   9.09% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Magnezone          |    2 |   9.09% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Dragalge           |    2 |   9.09% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Enamorus-Therian   |    2 |   9.09% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Ursaluna-Bloodmoon |    2 |   9.09% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Heatran            |    2 |   9.09% |   0.00% |
| 26   | Walking Wake       |    2 |   9.09% |   0.00% |
| 33   | Glastrier          |    1 |   4.55% | 100.00% |
| 33   | Slowking           |    1 |   4.55% | 100.00% |
| 33   | Iron Moth          |    1 |   4.55% | 100.00% |
| 33   | Diancie            |    1 |   4.55% | 100.00% |
| 33   | Ting-Lu            |    1 |   4.55% | 100.00% |
| 33   | Empoleon           |    1 |   4.55% | 100.00% |
| 33   | Iron Jugulis       |    1 |   4.55% | 100.00% |
| 33   | Zamazenta-*        |    1 |   4.55% | 100.00% |
| 33   | Thundurus          |    1 |   4.55% |   0.00% |
| 33   | Manaphy            |    1 |   4.55% |   0.00% |
| 33   | Dragapult          |    1 |   4.55% |   0.00% |
| 33   | Torkoal            |    1 |   4.55% |   0.00% |
| 33   | Infernape          |    1 |   4.55% |   0.00% |
| 33   | Moltres            |    1 |   4.55% |   0.00% |
| 33   | Ogerpon-Cornerstone |    1 |   4.55% |   0.00% |
| 33   | Vikavolt           |    1 |   4.55% |   0.00% |

Some quick takeaways
- This was a very weird tournament, not a lot of super meta stuff being used, but a couple things still stood out, namely Roaring Moon, Iron Hands, Ogerpon, and Basculegion
- Iron Hands loves a new viable best friend in Shaymin, making it even easier to enable its priority Chain Lightning shenanigans with the Photon Drive boost. Terrifying to play against as always.
- Roaring Moon has long been a menace thanks to the Snow-activated Protostasis. You might be expecting me to say that it's even more terrifying because of Knock Off, but actually the real buff the DLC gave it was Alolan Ninetales, allowing DDance sets to go extremely hard with a Proto-boost and Veil. If Roaring Moon ends up being broken in some way, it's way more likely that it'll be Ninetales' fault than Knock Off's.
- Ogerpon was pretty impressive despite our lack of Tera deleting its gimmick. Even without those, both Hearthflame and Wellspring Oger still have great typings, an amazing signature move, 110 Speed, and pretty decent levels of power, making them great at what they do. Also, Ogerpon-H isn't banned in VaporeMons right now due to the lack of Terastalization, but out of all the unbanned unchanged Ubers it's looking like the best of the bunch already.
- Basculegion only won 2/5 games, but its fairly high usage is still indicative of how amazing Rain continues to be, especially with a new tool in Flip Turn and a new friend in Manaphy.
- For other happenings, Webs were oddly common in this tour but they quite effective right now considering how many strong offensive mons exist in the metagame, Shaymin has quickly become one of the most common sights in the tier thanks to Grass Pelt and its pretty great versatility, Smelt Chandelure made a surprise appearance at the top of the usage charts, being decent but nothing too special, and Magearna actually saw no usage despite getting a bit of hype in the last couple days.

And that's all! Stay tuned for any news regarding the next Slate 7 or anything else VaporeMons-related. See you soon!

Yoshiblaze · Sep 24, 2023

Yoshiblaze said:
Stay tuned for any news regarding the next Slate 7

Didn't keep you waiting too long! It's my pleasure to announce that Slate 7 is now open for submissions!

If you need a reminder of how every works (which is fair cuz we haven't had a slate in a month and a half lol), then refer to the OP, quoted below:

Yoshiblaze said:
Submission Phase (5 days) -
During the submission phase, you can submit 4 new or changed moves, items, and abilities as well as 4 non-stat adjustments to Pokémon. Templates are provided below. There are very few restrictions for what you can do with moves, items, and abilities, but please keep your submissions balanced and codeable because the council reserves the right to veto any submission deemed uncompetitive, broken, or unfeasible. For Pokémon Adjustments, you can change the Pokémon's typing, abilities, and add or remove moves. You cannot create new moves or abilities for the Pokémon, you must submit those as part of your moves or ability submissions. Multiple moves / items / abilities can be subbed in one slot if they are clones of each other and multiple Pokémon can be adjusted in one slot if they are direct counterparts of each other.

Voting Phase (1 day) -
During the voting phase, you may vote for up to 6 submissions in each category. You are allowed 2 self-votes. The top voted submissions will win and be added to the metagame, with at least 2 winners in each category.

Discussion (1 day) -
The discussion phase of each slate gives us a quick period of rest to get the newest slate coded, discuss what we got in the newest slate, and potentially do a little playtesting before the next slate. Unlike in JolteMons, distribution discussion is no formally longer part of the discussion phase, with distribution now being decided by council.

The submission phase will last 5 days.

Z-nogyroP · Sep 24, 2023

Name: The Pact | Wretched Grasp
Power: -- | 100
Accuracy: -- | 100%
PP: 1 | 15
Category: Status | Special
Type: Ghost
Effect: Destroys the user's held item and grants +1 Sp. Atk; if the user has no held item, removes 25% HP instead. This move is replaced by Wretched Grasp until the end of the battle. | Afflicts the target with Embargo. Gains 20 BP for every fainted ally.
Priority: 0
Flags: None | Protect, Mirror
Potential Pokémon With This Move: :houndoom:

Justification: This is my take on a "charge turn" move that isn't really a charge turn move and also hopefully would actually be decent. Wretched Grasp is an extremely potent move, strong and reliable and with two very good extra effects, but nothing naturally learns it; in order to access it you have to use The Pact, and you'll lose your item in the process, because a sacrifice is required. But you'll get a Sp. Atk boost from your dark patron, and you have Wretched Grasp available until the battle is over; it has 15 PP because I believe by this logic it wouldn't actually benefit from PP Ups, so just imagine it's a regular 10 PP move.

Name: Grease Spill
Power: 60
Accuracy: 90%
PP: 10
Category: Special
Type: Poison
Effect: Target is forced to switch out into a random ally, twice.
Priority: -6
Flags: Protect, Mirror
Potential Pokémon With This Move: :clodsire:

Justification: Neat tool for hazard stack, functioning as your typical Circle Throw / Dragon Tail except that it forces two switches instead of one. Double the hazard damage! Potential option for Goodra / Hoodra to make them less passive, Dragalge appreciates it too, maybe even G-Weezing?

Name: Seed Bomb
Power: 90
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 10
Category: Physical
Type: Grass
Effect: If the user has no held item and has eaten a Berry, regains that Berry. If the user has no held item and has not eaten a Berry, gains a Sitrus Berry.
Priority: 0
Flags: Unchanged
Potential Pokémon With This Move: Current distribution
Justification: Berry strats and also Knock Off counterplay. Pokémon like Snorlax can use this as a pseudo-Recycle, bringing back their held healing Berries or at minimum a Sitrus Berry, which no one's gonna complain about. Or you can do some very funny stuff with the weirder Berries, like Jaboca or something. Or run infinite RestoChesto!

Name: Rebuild
Power: --
Accuracy: --
PP: 10
Category: Status
Type: Steel
Effect: Restores HP equal to the user's level x 1.25.
Priority: 0
Flags: Snatch, Heal
Potential Pokémon With This Move: :bronzong:

Justification: A healing move for Steels in the thematic vein of last gen's Reconstruct, except not as useless. Higher PP than other healing moves, but a flat 125 HP heal instead of 50%. For most of these Pokémon, 125 HP is a little more than a third, but that varies based on how much they invest; similarly to Pain Split, this move gets better the less HP you have total. Might give Treads and Tinkaton an actual niche? And now Magnezone has the healing it wants.

Name: White Flag
Effect: When the holder is reduced from above 33% HP to below 33% HP from direct damage, it immediately switches out.
Can Be Knocked Off: Y
Ignored by Klutz: Y
Fling Power & Effect: 10
Justification: Emergency Exit item! Pivoting! Reusable! Etc!

Name: Rotten Core
Effect: The holder gains a resistance to Dark and Poison-type moves, but a weakness to Fairy-type moves.
Can Be Knocked Off: Y
Ignored by Klutz: Y
Fling Power & Effect: 10
Justification: Fuck up your defensive typing with this one weird trick! Dark-types are prominent and Fairy-types are not so much (although who knows if that'll stay the case with Clefable back), so usually this item provides more than it detracts. Ideally this would telegraph itself the first time the Pokémon enters battle, and it would also work like Tar Shot where it would actually affect your type matchups rather than just halving / doubling the damage.

Name: Exhaust Gas
Effect: Consecutive uses of a move do not consume PP, unless this item activated last turn. When hit by a move, the attacker has a 50% chance to lose 2 extra PP.
Can Be Knocked Off: Y
Ignored by Klutz: Y
Fling Power & Effect: 30
Justification: PP stall item. Helps ease up the low recovery move PP for certain mons.

Name: Rivalry
Effect: This Pokémon deals 25% more damage to targets whose Nature increases the same stat.
Permanent: N
Mold Breaker | Counteract: N | Y
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: Current distribution + :gyarados:

Justification: Going with same stat and not strictly same nature because I think that widens things up significantly and means there's no annoying Cute Charm-esque or Ditto happiness BS where now it's technically optimal to run Naive instead of Jolly or whatever; same stat means you have to actually choose something else to excel in if avoiding the Rivalry damage is that important. Anyway, a neat new damage-amp Ability that provides a new take from how it was buffed last gen.

Name: Synchronize
Effect: In addition to current effect, this Pokémon takes 33% less damage from attackers whose Nature increases the same stat.
Permanent: N
Mold Breaker | Counteract: Y | N
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: Current distribution
Justification: Same idea as above, but this actually leads to some cool spreads on walls and defensive 'mons. Depending on what you counter, now it's optimal to have a +Speed nature or boosting one of your attacking stats, which makes you more specialized and better against the Pokémon you're intending to counter but a bit worse against ones you're not. Also the original mediocre Synchronize effect is there because there's no reason to get rid of it. Makes Tera Shard Mew more real?

Name: Blunt Force
Effect: This Pokémon's physical moves are powered up by 50% and cannot be supereffective.
Permanent: N
Mold Breaker | Counteract: N | Y
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: :copperajah:

Justification: "Not another useless Tinkaton buff - " You fool! This is NOT a Tinkaton buff, it's a Kanto Tauros buff! For physical attackers whose STAB types are kind of bad and don't hit much supereffectively. 50% is a huge damage amp, but it's also mathematically worse against targets that would be hit SE, so this is more for the wallbreaker crowd.

Name: Stall
Effect: This Pokémon switches out at the end of the turn instead of the start. It takes half damage from moves that hit it before switching out.
Permanent: N
Mold Breaker | Counteract: Y | N
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: :swalot:

Justification: Slow pivoting! Slow pivoting but it's mandatory! Stall is such a weird Ability, but slow pivoting is very strong so hopefully this gives it some kind of niche while also not being excessively horrible if you just want to switch out normally?

Name: Dusknoir
Type: Ghost / Fighting
Abilities: Pressure / Death Aura / Prankster (Hidden)
New Moves: Drain Punch, Bulk Up
Removed Moves: Taunt, Substitute
Justification: Annihilape is still banned even with Rage Fist's nerf, so here's mini-Annihilape. Death Aura is a nice pull and all but it's a bit counterintuitive with Rage Fist (although Pain Split does let you heal in spite of it), so Prankster is here to be a much more impactful Ability, letting Dusknoir get around its awful Speed. This enables it to be a much, much better user of Pain Split, healing itself before the opponent can move, alongside a very potent kit of other moves including Disable, Will-O-Wisp, Haze, and Destiny Bond. What makes Dusknoir not Annihilape, then? A much worse Speed stat when it's actually attacking, first. Second, losing access to Taunt and Substitute means it can't tear open stall teams quite as easily.

:sv/cyclizar:

Name: Cyclizar
Type: Dragon / Normal
Abilities: Shed Skin / Regenerator (Hidden)
New Moves: Extreme Speed
Removed Moves: None
Justification: Dragonite ain't shit

Totally_Odette · Sep 24, 2023

Name: Hospitality
Effect: On switch-in, restores 1/4 of its ally's HP, rounded down. The user restores 30% more HP from draining moves, Bitter Blade, Matcha Gotcha, Leech Seed, Aqua Ring, Ingrain, and Strength Sap.
Permanent (Yes or No): No
Mold Breaker (Yes or No): No?
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: :sinistcha:

,

,

,

,

,

,

,

,

Justification: doubles ability? more like singles ability. big root is a cool item and i think its effect should be used more.

Name: Telepathy
Effect: Active Pokemon without this ability have their Evasion multiplied by 0.75x.
Permanent (Yes or No): No
Mold Breaker (Yes or No): when are we adding evasion body press (no)
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: :altaria:

,

,

,

,

,

,

,

Justification: telepathy is pretty useless. Gives certain mons a way to use inaccurate moves safely. (im still pissed at oricorio missing 5/5 hurricanes in the tour today). Munkidori is a big recipient with focus blast

good subs

Name: Krookodile
Type: Ground / Dark
Abilities: Tinted Lens / Sand Spit / Moxie
New Moves: +Sucker Punch, Parting Shot
Removed Moves: None
Justification: it has tinted lenses. also the kind of gentleman to sucker punch you. and insult you.

DenebStargazer · Sep 24, 2023

Name: Echo Chamber
Power: 90BP
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 10PP
Category:

Type:

Effect: Power is 1.5x if a sound move was used last turn.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Sound
Potential Pokémon With This Move: :kommo-o:

Justification: We're making sound spam real with this one babyyyyy. Pivot your Echo Chamber guy in with a Round mon and click the funny button.

Name: Fury Swarm
Power: 20BP
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 10PP
Category:

Type:

Effect: Hits three times. The first hit has 20BP, the second has 30BP and the third has 40BP.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Contact
Potential Pokémon With This Move: :persian:

Justification: Wow!! Technician synergy!! Yippee!!

Name: Straw Doll
Effect: When the holder's Substitute is broken by an attacker, the attacker loses 1/4 of its max HP and the item is consumed.
Can Be Knocked Off (Yes or No): Yes
Ignored by Klutz (Yes or No): Yes
Fling Power & Effect: 30BP, curses the target.
Justification: A funny Substitute synergy item that could potentially synergise with setup sweepers.

Name: Garchompite Shard
Effect: On switch-in, if the holder is Garchomp, the effects of Sandstorm begin.
Can Be Knocked Off (Yes or No): No
Ignored by Klutz (Yes or No): No
Fling Power & Effect: Cannot be flung.
Justification: Sand Force Chomp was the biggest loss of the Sand Clock nerf in terms of funny value. This also has extra counterplay in the fact that it actually does summon Sand, and thus can be removed by the usual weather stuff or by the passage of turns.

Name: Disguise
Effect: (Mimikyu only) The first hit it takes is blocked, and it takes 1/8 HP damage instead. While Disguised, indirect damage is also nullified.
Permanent (Yes or No): Yes
Mold Breaker (Yes or No): Yes
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: :mimikyu:

Justification: Mimikyu has always felt like a mon that's so close to being good. Hopefully this pushes it there?

Name: Water Veil
Effect: On switch-in, the effects of Aqua Ring begin for the user. The user cannot be inflicted with burn.
Permanent (Yes or No): No
Mold Breaker (Yes or No): No
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: Current users + :milotic:

Justification: An ability intended to help bulk up Waters by giving them free passive recovery without immediately consuming their item slot (although you can still run Leftovers with it).

Name: Slowbro-Galar
Type:

Abilities: Quick Draw / Own Tempo / Counteract
New Moves:
Removed Moves:
Justification: Makes it a better pivot with Shelter. Counteract replaces Regenerator to avoid stepping on Muk's toes.

:sm/ampharos:

Name: Ampharos
Type:

Abilities: Static / Electric Surge
New Moves: Draco Meteor, Grass Knot, Parabolic Charge, Rising Voltage, Tail Glow
Removed Moves:
Justification: A semi-real Electric Terrain setter, since Pincurchin is kind of hot ass. Gains access to self-powered Rising Voltage to make it a moderately threatening attacker in its own right. (i miss mega amphy...)

:sm/rotom:

Name: Rotom
Type:

/

Abilities: Levitate (all forms) / Prankster (Base), Gale Wings (Fan), Refrigerate (Frost), Smelt (Heat), Seed Sower (Mow), Storm Drain (Wash)
New Moves: Defog
Removed Moves:
Justification: fucked up how only two rotom forms got hidden abils. maybe makes frost/mow better?? and wash is wash and is fine lmao

Beaf Cultist · Sep 24, 2023

Name: Wash Away
Power: 80
Accuracy: 100%
Category:

Type:

Effect: Removes hazards from both sides and clears terrain, then forces out the opponent.
Priority: -6
Flags: Mirror, Protect
Potential Pokemon with this Move: :alomomola:

Justification: fuck hazard stack

Name: Fastball / Curveball / Screwball
Power: 90BP
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 10PP
Category:

Type:

/

Effect: Reflected by Baseball Bat without breaking it.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Bullet, Mirror, Protect
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Fastball: :cinderace:

(maybe

)
Curveball: :azumarill:

Screwball: :azelf:

Justification: Take me out to the ball game

Name: Dissolution
Power: 80
Accuracy: 100%
Category:

Type:

Effect: 30% Poison chance. If the target is a Steel type, removes the Steel typing before dealing damage.
Priority: 0
Flags: Mirror, Protect
Potential Pokemon with this Move: :dragalge:

Justification: we got a lot of passive special-leaning steels. trying to brainstorm a tool that'll make them less passive.

Name: Mantis Claw
Effect: If held by Scyther, Scizor, or Kleavor, mon is immune to hazards. Also gives Scyther 1.5x Speed, Scizor 1.3x defenses, and Kleavor 1.5x Attack.
Can Be Knocked Off (Yes or No): yes
Ignored by Klutz (Yes or No): yes
Fling Power & Effect: 120
Justification: finally the scyther evos are good

Name: Slingshot
Effect: If the user is hit by a self-pivoting move (Volt Switch, Flip Turn, U-Turn, Round, Rollout, etc), the attacker takes damage equal to 1/8 of their max HP and is forced out into a random ally.
Can Be Knocked Off Yes
Ignored by Klutz Yes
Fling Power & Effect: 60
Justification: Pivot counterplay since folks don’t know how to click Stealth Rock. I liked Mintly’s take on it but I felt their effect was too weak, so I made my own version.

Name: Hand Buzzer
Effect: If the holder is hit by a Water, Flying, or Steel attack, the attacker is guaranteed to flinch on its next turn.
Can Be Knocked Off (Yes or No): yes
Ignored by Klutz (Yes or No): yes
Fling Power & Effect: 40
Justification: gg shake my hand

Name: Shield Dust
Effect: Original effects + this Pokemon takes 0.67x damage from moves with secondary effects.
Permanent (Yes or No): No
Mold Breaker (Yes or No): Yes
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: Original Distribution + :sandaconda:

Justification: I think folks have subbed this before but this is for the folks who hate Salt Cure + lots of moves have secondary effects so this is essentially a flat bulk boost, particularly on the special side. Put this on a Fighting resist to troll Jugulis+Thundy epic style.

Name: Wigglytuff
Type:

Abilities: Cute Charm / Natural Cure | Wind Rider
New Moves: Boomburst, Moonblast, Spirit Break, Tidy Up
Removed Moves: N/A
Justification: One of these days yall will give me the wishpasser i so desire

:swsh/vaporeon:

Name: Eeveelutions
Type: same as base
Abilities:
:vaporeon:

Water Absorb / Mud Wash
:jolteon:

Volt Absorb / Battle Spines
:flareon:

Smelt / Fur Coat
:espeon:

Synchronize / Magic Bounce
:umbreon:

Synchronize / Counteract
:leafeon:

Chlorophyll / Sharpness
:glaceon:

Snow Cloak / Muscle Memory
:sylveon:

Cute Charm / Pixilate
New Moves:
All: Round
:vaporeon:

none lol this guy is good as-is
:jolteon:

Dazzling Gleam, Overheat
:flareon:

Close Combat, Morning Sun, Raging Fury, Swords Dance
:espeon:

Lumina Crash
:umbreon:

Dire Claw, Knock Off
:leafeon:

Night Slash, Psycho Cut
:glaceon:

Dazzling Gleam, Earth Power
Removed Moves: N/A
Justification: Ok I know Vap got Flip Turn so this sub isn't AS relevant but like, Round Sylveon is still heat. Also buffed some of the other guys because I could.

HydreigonTheChild · Sep 24, 2023

Name: Slash
Power: 75
Accuracy: 100
PP: 15
Category: Physical
Type: Normal
Effect: Slashes the opponent causing them to be applied with a weakness that makes them take 1.66x damage from the next attack
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Contact, Mirror
Potential Pokémon With This Move: Default distribution is alr to me
Justification: I really find it interesting how slash is like opening up ur wounds or some crap... some shit theory behind it but yeah... it allows for a follow up attack to do much more damage. What makes this balanced? well you can be forced out, you could have just used 2 stab moves or 2 coverage moves... but why would i use this? You would use this for ex. to threaten a wall to like get out like a gliscor trying to stay in against a h-samurott to toxic it u can now OHKO it with razor shell, it also makes it so if you catch a switch you can just hit them very hard with a coverage move by using slash as a midground

Name: Dragon Breath
Power: 75
Accuracy: 100
PP: 20
Category: Special
Type: Dragon
Effect: the target's Ability is suppressed while the pokemon is active
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Mirror
Potential Pokémon With This Move: All dragons
Justification: I like core enforcer... i also like core enforcer on pokemon that may actually run it ... like scream tail to make sure gliscor is not setting up on it for free, or no purifying salt for garganacl or good as gold for gholdengo, no supreme overload for kingambit, or regenerator for slowking-g

Name: Gas Station Sushi
Effect: When hazards are removed on your side gives tatsugiri 33.33% health for each hazard there was on your side(using rapid spin, shelter, defog)
Can Be Knocked Off (Yes or No): Yes
Ignored by Klutz (Yes or No): Yes
Fling Power & Effect: 100 (its funny)
Justification: This allows tatsugiri to be a more offensive rapid spinner by allowing it to tank a hit, rapid spin, and continue its offensive pressure. this item only works when there is a hazard present. This also allows tatsugiri to go from low hp -> max hp if you were against a heavy hazard stack team

Name: Red Muleta
Effect: Whenever a tauros and its forms are hit by a super effective attack increase its critical hit ratio by 2. All tauros forms are immune to secondary effects
Can Be Knocked Off (Yes or No): Yes
Ignored by Klutz (Yes or No): Yes
Fling Power & Effect: 30
Justification: This allows tauros to be a good awnser to smth like a weak earthquake from smth like garganacl. This also makes bulk up sets better as this makes them immune to secondary effects like shaymin seed flare drops, sludge bomb poisons, scald burns, etc and can make them great setup sweepers esp when you have to try to hit them with super effective attacks

Name: Quick Claw
Effect: If you moved after your opponent, gain +1 speed.
Can Be Knocked Off (Yes or No): Yes
Ignored by Klutz (Yes or No): Yes
Fling Power & Effect: 20
Justification: Quick claw has always been an RNG item... so this helps slower pokemon get the jump on them like ursaluna-bloodmoon, kommo-o, can help chandelure, and other pokemon who really want to switch up moves but want the speed boost.

Name: Binding Band
Effect: Increases power and accuracy of moves by 1.5x against a trapped target
Can Be Knocked Off (Yes or No): Yes
Ignored by Klutz (Yes or No): Yes
Fling Power & Effect: 60
Justification: This allows for some good synergy with things like sand spit, magma storm, and allows a jaw lock user to get significant more damage against them.... The main users of this move will be jaw lock users, heatran, and sand spit users who I believe will use it to remove a target more effectively

Name: Hydreigon
Type: Dragon / Dark
Abilities: Levitate / Death Aura / Muscle Memory
New Moves: Thunder, Hurricane, Sludge Bomb
Justification: 1) This gives it an actual great presence in OU being an anti healing mon that may be viable (its like UR rn) 2) I want to give it some moves to help it in general become a greater presence with these moves, also maybe it can be finally a good user of tie-dye band

:sm/hippowdon:

Name: Hippowdon
Type: Ground
Abilities: Sand Stream / Mud Wash / Sand Force
New Moves: Spikes, Flip Turn (hippos can swim lore accurate, and in pokemon snap u can see hippo's near water)
Justification: Spikes is a huge boon for hippo in terms of being able to set a lot of hazards from the free turn it gets. Flip turn allows hippo to not be passive into many pokemon such as flying types, grass types, and other physically bulky mons or mons that can shake off its earthquakes like shaymin, rillaboom, gliscor, etc. Mud wash is a great new ability it now has access to which allows it to have a lot of utility on teams and be able to generate free switches for its team esp with the use of flip turn to get teammates in

:ss/iron thorns:

Name: Iron Thorns
Type: Rock / Electric
Abilities: Quark Drive / Tough Claws
New Moves: Aqua Tail
Justification: Iron thorns just feels worse than every electric type and rock type we have... so now it should at least feel rewarding to land a chisel boosted by tough claws, having tough claws aqua tail for gliscor, lando-t, great tusk, and having a last slot for those pokemon it would want to hit like crab with wild charge, magearna with earthquake, or other coverage moves it desires

Name: Unnerve
Effect: Causes embargo on the opponent on switch in
Permanent (Yes or No): Yes
Mold Breaker (Yes or No): No
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: :mandibuzz:

Justification: Unnerve should have more of an impact... so a possible suggestion is to make it cause embargo on the current opponent which can make it much easier to 1v1 them without the help of a choice item, lefties, or just a special item to help them

Name: Wind Power
Effect: Increases Tailwind duration by 2 turns
Permanent (Yes or No): No
Mold Breaker (Yes or No): No
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: :tornadus-therian:

Justification: I feel like tailwind is way to niche and has never had a place... wind power is also a very fringe ability that makes using it pretty hard considering that... also buffs wind rider !

Mintly · Sep 24, 2023

Name: Bubble Gum
Effect: If the user is hit by a self-pivoting move (Volt Switch, Flip Turn, U-Turn, Round, Rollout, etc), The target does not switch out and instead has their speed lowered by 2 stages.
Can Be Knocked Off Yes
Ignored by Klutz Yes
Fling Power & Effect: 80, Lowers target's speed by 2 stages.
Justification: Why the hell did we get MORE pivot moves. stop that.

Name: Sword of Ruin // Beads of Ruin
Effect: Effects swapped.
Permanent: No
Mold Breaker: No
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: :chien-pao:

Justification: Free them.

Name: Vital Pulse
Power: 85
Accuracy: 100
PP: 20
Category: Special
Type:

Effect: If the target is statused, This move does double damage and cures the target.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Pulse
Potential Pokémon With This Move: :clawitzer:

Justification: 1 - Beat RestTalk and Gliscor with one simple trick! 2 - Clawitzer silent buff awesome funny

Name: Fezandipiti // Munkidori // Okidogi
Type:

//

Abilities: Toxic Chain | Magic Bounce // Toxic Chain | Merciless // Toxic Chain | Moxie
New Moves: +Spirit Break, +Knock Off, +Parting Shot, +Wish // +Psycho Boost, +Aura Sphere // +Storm Throw, +Cutting Remark, +Mach Punch
Removed Moves: None
Justification: Make the Utility Toxic Pivot more Utility and more Pivot // Give the strong special attacker stronger special options // Make the strong physical sweeper able to sweep better

:ampharos:

Name: Ampharos
Type:

Abilities: Static | Magic Bounce
New Moves: Tail Glow, Body Press, Parabolic Charge, Draco Meteor
Removed Moves: None
Justification: A resub of my old Ampharos sub. Now that Tail Glow is back (thanks manaphy), I can finally give it to Ampharos. I also added Dragon typing. tee hee.

chemicalmines · Sep 24, 2023

Name: Power Spot
Effect: All attacks from every Pokemon on the field have 1.3x power while the user is active.
Permanent (Yes or No): No
Mold Breaker (Yes or No): No
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: :stonjourner:

(magnetic mons + supernatural stuff)
Justification: THE glass cannon ability. either i die or you die (please give this to glass cannons)

Name: Okidogi
Type:

Abilities: Toxic Chain / Scrappy
New Moves: Mach Punch, Swords Dance, Parting Shot, Sucker Punch
Removed Moves: None
Justification: small change but it makes okidogi able to do a bit better vs faster builds. it also beats ghold

:sm/milotic:

Name: Milotic
Type:

Abilities: Marvel Scale / Competitive / Sheer Heart
New Moves: Moonblast, Healing Stones, Psychic
Removed Moves: None
Justification: i think sheer heart milotic is cool but it doesnt have many tools to abuse it, so this sub aims to fix that

:sm/ambipom:

Name: Ambipom
Type:

Abilities: Technician / Pickup / Skill Link
New Moves: Tail Slap, Bone Rush, Rock Blast, Stealth Rock, Triple Axel, Swords Dance
Removed Moves: None
Justification: tail slap ambipom pls come home :(

Okidogi (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Storm Throw
- Gunk Shot
- Mach Punch
- High Horsepower

Milotic @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Sheer Heart
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Moonblast
- Recover
- Ice Beam

Ambipom @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Tail Slap
- Bone Rush
- Rock Blast
- Swords Dance

IceLevelIncarnate · Sep 25, 2023

Name: Segmented Smash
Power: 15
Accuracy: 90%
PP: 10
Category:

Type:

Effect: Hits 2-5 times. Every 2 hits, lower target's Defense by 1 stage.
Priority: +0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Contact
Potential Pokémon With This Move: :leavanny:

Justification: Multi-hit LD moves are really in right now, so here's an option for a weaker attacking type that can let it absolutely break stuff and (hopefully) give mons like these an actual niche.

Name: Whoopie Cushion
Effect: If the opponent switches out while the holder is on the field, the Pokemon that switches in takes 1/16 max HP damage and is inflicted with Torment. Doesn't activate if the switching-in Pokemon is Flying-type or has Levitate.
Can Be Knocked Off: No, activates item
Ignored by Klutz: Yes
Fling Power & Effect: 20 BP
Justification: A soft switch punisher, not a crazy effect but still beneficial and notably isn't consumable, giving it lots of long-term practicality on bulkier mons that usually force switches.

Name: Friendship Bracelet
Effect: The holder establishes a bond with the opposing Pokemon upon entry. Both Pokemon learn the other's highest BP (considers STAB if tie) move, swap Abilities, and deal x0.75 damage to each other. Effect ends if the holder switches out or either Pokemon faints.
Can Be Knocked Off: Yes
Ignored by Klutz: Yes
Fling Power & Effect: tbd
Justification: Goofy item with a strong effect, but reliant on who you switch-in on for the best effect. Uniquely threatens potential checks or counters depending on what move/ability you steal, but it's also a two-way street.

Name: Snorlax
Type:

Abilities: Immunity / Thick Fat / Unaware
New Moves: Rollout
Removed Moves: N/A
Justification: Snorlax should be a proper fat mon again. Unaware is BIG, its bulk is already comparable to Dondozo, but with special bulk rather than physical, which makes it an invaluable tool with all the special spam in the meta rn. Rollout on a bulky defensive pivot might seem concerning after we just took it off of Amoonguss for doing the same thing, but Snorlax isn't throwing out Toxics and Spores while also getting to keep momentum, so I think it'll be fine here.

:swsh/mamoswine:

Name: Mamoswine
Type:

/

Abilities: Mold Breaker / Snow Cloak / Thick Fat
New Moves: Headlong Rush
Removed Moves: N/A
Justification: Simple but effective changes. A phys attacker with STAB Ground Mold Breaker smacks a lot of stuff and Headlong Rush lets it do that, but harder. Also good friends with Ninetales-Alola.

:swsh/leavanny:

Name: Leavanny
Type:

/

Abilities: Adaptability / Chlorophyll / Overcoat
New Moves: First Impression, Peekaboo, U-turn, Victory Dance
Removed Moves: Sticky Web
Justification: Leavanny but ballin??? First of all, flavor fits, but this mon is NOT using Grass Pelt, especially when Shaymin exists. Adaptability carrying major weight here, could get good use out of Choice First Impression sets. VD sets probably work best with Adapt + Tera Shard, with your best options being Fairy Peekaboo or Fighting Parry.

Swagodile · Sep 25, 2023

Name: Voltclaw Fury
Power: 25
Accuracy: 100
PP: 20
Category: Physical
Type: Electric
Effect: The user attacks the target with a flurry of electricity-infused claw swipes. Hits 2-5 times in a row.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Contact
Potential Pokémon With This Move:

Justification: The Electric STAB Iron Thorns wants.

Name: Phantom Pain
Power: 80
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 10
Category: Physical
Type: Ghost
Effect: Calculates damage using the target's Special Defense stat.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound):
Potential Pokémon With This Move:

Justification: A Ghost-type take on Psyshock.

Name: Plus | Minus
Effect: The user's Special Attack stat is boosted by 50% in Electric Terrain. | The user's Special Defense stat is boosted by 50% in Electric Terrain.
Permanent (Yes or No): No
Mold Breaker (Yes or No): No | Yes
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: Current distribution
Justification: These abilities need a singles effect badly

Name: Poliwrath
Type:

Abilities: Water Absorb | Iron Fist | Swift Swim
New Moves: Jet Punch, Mach Punch
Removed Moves: N/A
Justification: Jet Punch is just a move that makes sense for Poliwrath. Gave it Iron Fist to go with its new STAB punching move. Can run either a Belly Drum or Bulk Up set

:sm/ludicolo:

Name: Ludicolo
Type:

Abilities: Swift Swim | Rain Dish | Dancer
New Moves: Quiver Dance, Aqua Step, Victory Dance
Removed Moves: N/A
Justification: If Shiftry can get Wind Rider, then Ludicolo should have Dancer. Gave it some dance moves to go with its motif and new ability. Physical Ludicolo also becomes an option with Aqua Step (which is a dance move)

:sm/polteageist:

Name: Polteageist
Type:

Abilities: Weak Armor | Water Absorb
New Moves: Scald, Chilling Water, Hydro Pump, Water Spout
Removed Moves: N/A
Justification:

:sm/noctowl:

Name: Noctowl
Type:

Abilities: Insomnia | Mind's Eye | Tinted Lens
New Moves: Esper Wing
Removed Moves: N/A
Justification: Mind's Eye is basically an upgrade over Keen Eye.

Beebos · Sep 25, 2023

Damn it really has been over a month since last vapemons slate huh?

Name: Poison Fang
Power: 80
Accuracy: 100%
Category:

Type:

Effect: 30% chance to badly poison the target.
Flags: Contact, Biting, Protect, Mirror Move
Potential Pokemon with this Move: Current dist. + :umbreon:

Justification: Please let Poison Fang do actual damage. This would give it a similar dynamic to Gunk Shot as Scald does with Hydro Pump: would you prefer the raw power, or consistency and status chance? Would also go hard with Toxic Chain Okidogi, or if we ever give Strong Jaw to a Poison-type (cough cough Arbok, he would still suck but you know). Kinda power creeps Poison Jab but if you're worried about that so much we can limit this move's distribution.

Name: Guard Dog
Effect: If the user would have their stats lowered by an opponent, lower the opponent's Attack and Special Attack by one stage.
Permanent: No
Mold Breaker: Yes (kinda doesn't matter with this ability but w/e)
Potential Pokemon with This Ability: Current dist, :arcanine-hisui:

, other dog or dog-like/canine mons
Justification: He got that dog in him. Guard Dog is funny in Doubles, but Vaporemons is not, in fact, a Doubles format, so this sub adjusts the ability to work better in the context of this mod while making the effect more defensive to distance itself from Defiant.

Eelektross
Abilities: Levitate, Outclass
Added Moves: Earthquake, Recover, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, U-turn
Justification: Resub from last slate with the same song and dance: Chain Lightning + Outclass lets Eelektross steal most targets' primary type before they act, which not only removes one of their STABs but for most types also means gaining a resistance to that STAB. This gives Eelek some useful matchups against the likes of Jugulis, Vaporeon, Kingambit, Shaymin, Basculegion, so on and so forth... Additions this time around are Recover for, erm, recovery, and U-turn as a Volt Switch sidegrade.

Leavanny
Abilities: Grass Pelt, Chlorophyll, Magic Guard
Added Moves: Bullet Seed, Pin Missile, Rock Slide, Sacred Sword, Stone Edge, U-turn, Victory Dance
Justification: Couple of big buffs here: Magic Guard is basically Overcoat 2.0 - you still have hazards immunity, but it also means a no-drawbacks Life Orb, Toxic immunity, among other things. Victory Dance is a super good boosting option - the idea isn't neccessarily to sweep with Leavanny, but to leverage the unique type weaknesses provided by its infamously bad type, most notably a quad ground weakness, to get a boost off, pivoting out with STAB U-turn when the opponent sends in a counter. Rock coverage lets it hit its 4x weaknesses SE, and Sacred Sword lets it punch through steels that would otherwise hardwall its STABs.

Oricorio-Baile
Abilities: Dancer, Muscle Memory, Color Change
Justification: Color Change is a pretty funky ability, but a common problem thrown around about it is that, because you're constantly changing type, it's pretty much impossible to do STAB damage, leading to the Pokemon being quite passive. The obvious solution to this, then, is to give it to Oricorio, whose signature move allows it to get STAB no matter what type it is. Decided to give it specifically to Baile because a) Starting as a Fighting/Flying gives it a rocks neutrality, b) it always irked me that we already have a fighting-flying with Scrappy via Flamigo, and c) It makes sense flavor-wise as the 'base' Oricorio form.

G-Luke · Sep 25, 2023

Name: Landorus | Landorus-Therian
Type:

Abilities: Sand Force / HA: Cloud Nine | Intimidate
New Moves: Spikes, Defog, Meteor Beam, Acrobatics, Skull Bash
Justification: Yeah Its time. Landorus-Therian is BACK. No Knock Off and no Toxic sucks but access to Spikes and Defog will be a major boon to its success and resurgence in Vaporemons. Acrobatics will serve as a neat little side hustle for SD Lando strats if yall are hungry. And finally I gave base Lando a bone after its big nerf with Meteor Beam and Skull Bash + Acrobatics under Sand ig.

ViZar · Sep 25, 2023

Name: Iron Leaves
Type:

Abilities: Quark Drive | Steelworker (HA)
New Moves: Behemoth Blade, Iron Head, FLash Cannon
Removed Moves: -
Justification: I like the idea of giving Paradoxes secondary abilities. I didn't go for Steely Spirit since the ability is 100x better than Steelworker and it would completely break leaves.

Name: Exoskeleton
Effect: If Bug: -Bug weaknesses. Else: +Bug resistances.
Permanent: No
Mold Breaker: Yes
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: :volcarona:

(realistically any Pokemon with Bug-type, in Bug Egg Group or based on Insects, Spiders, Crabs and so on)
Justification: This is more of a fun idea, not really serious. Bug has unique resistances with Ground, Fighting and Grass and while admittingly, the sugguested Pokemon do not benefit much from it or have better abilities, the Pokemon with this ability can still benefit from this ability. Klawf for example loosing 3 of its 5 weaknesses and Iron Moth takes neutral damage from EQ under Grassy Terrain, although Photon Drive is better for it in that terrain. Bug-types however gain a needed buff. Loosing Flying, Fire and Rock as weaknesses is really nice. Volcarona gains a regular weakness to Stealth Rock and gains Fire as a resistance. Scizor resists Flying and Rock and gains a regular Fire weakness.

Name: Tera Blast
Power: 80
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Category:

Type:

Effect: If Tera Shard: Phys. if Atk > SpA, type = Tera.
Priority: 0
Flags: Protect, Mirror
Potential Pokémon With This Move: All
Justification: This always bothered me. Tera Blast now works with Tera Shards, allowing Pokemon to have a low BP STAB. This should allow for more flexibility when using the shards.

LOrd Fernado · Sep 25, 2023

Name: Hadron Engine / Orichalcum Pulse
Effect: Sets Electric Terrain / Harsh Sunlight up on switch-in, highest stat is boosted by 1.33x, if Speed by 1.5x
Permanent: Yes
Mold Breaker: No
Potential Pokémon With This Ability:
Hadron Engine: :raichu:

Orichalcum Pulse: :kommo-o:

Justification: hadron engine / ori pulse rework (not stolen from mbh i swear)

Name: Commander
Effect: If the opponent is faster than the user, the opponent's Attack is lowered by 0.66x and the user's Sp.Atk is boosted by 1.5x
Permanent: Yes
Mold Breaker: Yes
Potential Pokémon With This Ability: :tatsugiri:

Justification: i've always hated that tatsugiri had this crappy ability which only worked in doubles, so it's a rework

Ayecrusher King · Sep 25, 2023

Name: Supersweet Syrup
Effect: On switch-in, lowers the opponent's evasion by one stage.
Permanent: No
Mold Breaker: No
Potential Pokemon with this Ability: :Dipplin:

, things with Sweet Scent I guess?
Justification: Why this Ability only works once is beyond me. Now Dipplin stocks are drippin.

Name: Frost Cloak
Effect: When Snow begins or if the Pokemon is sent out during snow, sets up Aurora Veil on the allied side of the field.
Permanent: No
Mold Breaker: No
Potential Pokemon with this Ability: anything with snow cloak.
Justification: Aurora Veil is hugely beneficial.

Name: Fist Bump
Power: -
Accuracy: -
PP: 10/16
Category: Status
Type: Fighting
Effect: The user switches out, and the replacement Pokemon is immediately switched in, healed by 25% of their maximum HP.
Priority: 0
Flags: Snatch
Justification: Teamwork encouragement.

Gekokeso · Sep 25, 2023

Name: Root Pull
Power: 90
PP: 16
Accuracy: 100%
Category: Physical
Type: Grass
Effect: 100% chance to drop speed by 1. If it hits a flying type, drops speed by 2.
Priority: 0
Flags: Mirror, Protect,
Distribution: :rillaboom:

Description: If a grass type isn't Ogerpon or Meowscarada its grass type move options are honestly tragic. Root Pull is a better Seed Bomb that makes it so that usual suspects like Thundurus and Jugulis don't get free switch ins and crack your team open. ~~Drum Beating buff is mostly to not make Rilla sad that its sig got completely taken away, allowing it to have a slightly different niche from Shaymin~~ F for Rillaboom.

Name: Blissey
Type: Normal
Abilities: Natural Cure / Cloud Nine / Healer
New Moves: +Boomburst, Parting Shot, Take Heart
Removed Moves: None
Justification: Virgin buffing Blissey with its dexited moves vs Chad buffing Blissey by giving it completely different stuff. Cloud Nine can be slapped on some teams, but the moves do a lot of heavy lifting for it, especially PS and Boom which prevent Blissey from being too passive.

:sv/Brute Bonnet:

Name: Brute Bonnet
Type: Grass / Dark
Abilities: Protosmosis / Seed Sower
New Moves: + Gunk Shot, Knock Off, Poison Jab, Power Whip, Spikes, Stealth Rocks, Strength Sap, Swords Dance, Toxic Spikes.
Removed Moves: None
Justification: Brute Bonnet seems like it has potential on rain teams, but it has an extremely barren movepool. It can now actually provide to rain teams as a cope ferrotorn.

Catzzadilla · Sep 25, 2023

Name: Pledge Pulse
Power: 40
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Category: Special
Type: ??? (or normal)
Effect: Two-hit move. The first hit's type is randomly chosen between Grass, Fire and Water, and the second hit's type is randomly chosen between the remaining two other types. If Fire + Grass is chosen, starts Sea of Fire on the opponent's side. If Water + Grass is chosen, starts Swamp on the opponent's side. If Fire + Water is chosen, starts Rainbow on the user's side. Will never select Grass against a target with Sap Sipper, Water against a target with Storm Drain or Water Absorb, or Fire against an opponent with Flash Fire. STAB is applied on hits of the relevant type.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Mirror, Protect, Pulse.
Potential Pokémon With This Move: Pokémon previously able to use Grass, Fire or Water Pledge, :scovillain:

Justification: A Twin Beam-esque way of implementing the pledge effects in singles. The distribution includes dual-types who will get at least 1 stab boost, fast users with one of the typings, technician users, mega launcher users, and specially-oriented support Pokémon.

Name: Mist
Power: N/A
Accuracy: N/A
PP: 30
Category: Status
Type: Ice
Effect: For 7 turns, the user and its party members are protected from having their stat stages lowered. Fails if the effect is already active on the user's side.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Snatch
Potential Pokémon With This Move: Current users, :hatterene:

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Justification: A seldom-seen "field effect", now given more utility by preventing self-afflicted stat drops. The duration has been changed from 5 to 7 turns so that it is 5 turns long by the time you set this up and switch to your user. If this needs a nerf, the duration could stay at 5 turns (8 with damp rock)

Name: Cultist Chant
Power: 85
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 15
Category: Special
Type: Psychic
Effect: Has a 100% Chance of starting the effects of Lucky Chant, Safeguard, or Mist. Will not select an effect that is already active.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Authentic, Mirror, Protect, Sound
Potential Pokémon With This Move: :articuno-galar:

Justification: A way to activate multiple relatively-unused beneficial field effects. The userbase is quite large, but it's because I skimmed (no, I'm lying, I actually put a lot of time) through the dex and gave it to every mon who looked like it could be part of a cult. Obviously I trust the council to make a better distribution than me.

Name: The Banana
Effect: Restores 50% HP at 33% or lower and sets a banana peel field hazard on the opponent's side of the field.

Grounded Pokémon switching in will take 12.5% damage and be prompted to switch out again after hazard damage phase. Is removed upon activation.

Can Be Knocked Off (Yes or No): Yes, with the exception of monkeys ( :mankey:

) and

Ignored by Klutz (Yes or No): No
Fling Power & Effect: 80BP, sets banana peel hazard
Justification: There have criminally been no bananas in pokémon battling aside from those on tropius's neck, and this aims to rectify that. Could be counted as a berry, since bananas are actually berries!

Turns out these aren't able to come back to gen 9, but at least they get to stay on my post, and say hi to you while you browse my adjustments :)

:sv/ampharos:

Name: Ampharos
Type: Electric
Abilities: Galvanize, Muscle Memory, Static
New Moves: Echoed Voice, Weather Ball, Round, Terrain Pulse, Tri Attack, Draco Meteor.
Removed Moves:
Justification: Ampharos now has more utility in Weather and Terrain as a Galvanize Special Attacker. Plus was awful as his only non-static ability, and Muscle Memory can be used on choice or metronome sets.

:SV/gliscor:

Name: Gliscor
Type: Flying/Dark
Abilities: Sand Force, Sand Veil, Poison Heal
New Moves: Comeuppance, Hone Claws, Jaw Lock, Throat Chop, Lash Out, Foul Play, Beat Up
Removed Moves: Substitute, Spikes, Sandstorm, Sand Tomb, Earth Power, Earthquake, High Horsepower,
Justification: A Gliscor that is less defensive and more offensive. Gains new STAB for its already great Dark Moveset, is immune to Prankster and Cutting Remark, but loses some defensive potential the Ground type gave him.

Yay! My first slate! :) I had a lot more ideas that I forgot over time while waiting for a month and a half, but Knock Out and the Slaking rework were the biggest ones I held onto, the rest were either forgotten or remembered just in time.

I had more ideas I wanted to submit but halfway through I saw that there was a 4-move/item/ability and 4-adjustments limit so I had to delete like half of my submissions lol.

EDIT: Thanks to Beaf Cultist's reviews on my submissions, I decided to change things up. Everything that I submitted is gone save for Cultist Chant and the Pikachu forms, but I have been cooking these last few days.

Beaf Cultist · Sep 26, 2023

normally would just wait until vetos so as not to post a one-liner but there’s uh, more than one line of issues here

Catzzadilla said:
Name: Fetus in a jar

you’ve gotta change the name on this. no shot we’d allow something this spicy

Catzzadilla said:
Name: Slaking
Type: Normal
Abilities: Laziest Lord

goes for both this and the pikachu, but signature abils need to be subbed as abils, not as mon changes. also, neither this nor pikachu will be OU with these changes

speaking of, those were the glaring problems, but i figured i’d do a full review while i’m here.
sleep nuzzle, while not necessarily broken due to sleep clause, is not something i’d want to play against. sleep has limited counterplay as-is so putting it on more mons while also making it unblockable is less than appealing.
mist is fine.
cultist chant is doing way too much at once. would need to parse through the effects a bit more but the fact that all of this is rng-dependent is just kinda icky.
besides the name, pbond as an item is broken. there are multiple moves that would be ridiculously strong if they could trigger their effect twice, and seeing as this item is basically Life Orb with no downside, it’s far too much even without those other interactions. this item effect would be vetoed
last thing, chances are the pikachu forms would also be vetoed. adding dexited pokemon back into the game is outside the scope of the mod, and we’ve been strict with that (specifically with megas) in the past.

always nice to see new folks subbing to the mod! hopefully you take this advice to heart, and i’m looking forward to seeing what else you come up with :)

FuecocoBoi · Sep 27, 2023

Let’s a-go!

Name: Trap Toss
Power: -
Category: Physical
Accuracy: Cannot Miss
Type: Dark
Effect: removes all entry hazards from the user’s side. If Stealth Rocks were moved, deal 1/8th of the enemy’s health as a Dark type move. If Spikes were moved, for every layer of spikes, deal 1/12th of the opponents health as Dark-type damage. If Toxic Spikes were moved, if there was 1 layer, poison the target. If there was 2 layers of toxic spikes, badly poison the target. If Sticky Web was moved, reduce the target’s speed by 1. If Healing Spikes were moved, remove 1 random layer of Spikes, Stealth Rocks, or Toxic Spikes before dealing damage, then destroy the healing spikes. Fails if no hazards are on the field.
Distribution: :Muk-Alola:

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,more sneaky/gremlin mons
Justifications: Me and the homies all hate Gholdengo. So introducing: Hazard removal that isn’t blocked by Gholdengo! The power is - as the power is set, but is dark as the set damage is affected by typing.

Name: Brisk Wind
Power: 70
Type: Ice
Accuracy: 100%
Flags: Priority (+1)
Effect: Fails if the target is not attacking. Usually moves first.
Distribution: idk
Justification: The Ice Type submission gets gooder. Special sucker punch.

Name: Fantastic/Marvel/Spectacle Room
Power: -
Category: Status
Type: Psychic
Accuracy: 100%
Flags: Priority (-7)
Effect: Inverses all stat changes/NA/NA. For the next 5 turns, all stat Changes are inverted/Attack and Special attack are swapped/Abilities are suppressed. Fantastical Room Extra Clause: All inverted stat changes are returned to normal at the end of the turns.
Justification: The Trick Room family gains more brothers. The Spectical Room one is the most dubious, as it could also be equal to NGas. I like the Room series, this adds more flavor.

Name: Flurry of Blows/Spirit Raze/Toxic Volley
Power: 20
Category: Physical/Special/Special
Type: Fighting/Ghost/Poison
Accuracy: 90%
Flags: Contact Punching/Ballistic/None
Effect: Hits 2 to 5 times. For every hit, 20% chance to lower a random stat/paralyze/poison
Justification: Loaded Dice needs more friends. A rebalancing of all the multi hit moves and redistributing. I don‘t know who to, though.

Name: Mime’s Tools
Effect: When Wonder/Magic/Fantastical/Marvel/Spectacle Room is set, the amount of turns it lasts changes from 5 to 8 if the Pokémon is holding this. If held by Kantonian Mr. Mime with Shape Stage, and Special Attack, Special Defence, is multiplied by a factor of 1.5, and all status moves used by Mr. Mime have their priority increased to +1.
Can Be Knocked Off: When held by Mr. Mime, no, held by other, yes
Fling Power and Effect: 40 power, sets up random room
Justification: PRAISE MIMEZ! This item would usually be uberbusted on Mr. Mime, but with the line being gone this generation, this is just Damp Rock for the Room gang.

Name: Snomolite
Effect: When used by a Snom, on switch in, all stats get a 3.5x omniboost, and it’s stats cannot be lowered or heightened, and ice type moves get a 2x boost if under 50 power.
Justification: snom meta

Name: Anger Shell
Effect: When the Pokémon’s HP falls below 50%, raise Speed, Special Attack, and Attack Sharply, and lower Defence and Special Defense by 1.
Distribution: Shell Smash learners + :Crawdaunt:

Justification: Shame that Anger Shell is only a +1 boost, let‘s change that, shall we?

Name: Shape Stage
Effect: Sets random room on switch in.
Distribution: Shape Stage is Mr. Mimes‘s Signature Ability, replacing either Soundproof or Technitian, while the others can be distributed between Psychic types.

Damn I love Ice Types
Snow now deals 1/16 chip damage every turn to all non-Ice, Water, and Fire Types
Still retains 1.5x Defense Boost to Ice Types
Freeze has been replaced with Frostbite from PLA
Deals 1/16 damage per turn and halves Special Attack
Moves that previously had a 10% chance to freeze now have a 30% chance to inflict Frostbite, except Ice Beam to keep parity with TBolt
Cannot be inflicted on Ice Types
New Status Move to Inflict Frostbite
Name: Refrigerate
Power: -
Accuracy: 85%
Category: Status
Type: Ice
Effect: Inflicts Frostbite on the target. (Check Adjustments) If used by an Ice Type, this attack never misses.
Distribution: All ice types, some other guys.
Justification: Chill-O-Wisp. What’s more to say?
wii do not care, ice types deserve this

Name: Klawf
Type: Rock/Water
Abilities: Anger Shell/Sap Sipper/Regenerator
New Moves: Aqua Jet, Wave Crash, Bulk Up, Crush Claw, Flip Turn
Justification: better anger shell and crab go brr. Or sap sipper to fuck over grass types. Or regenerate for stall. CRAB POWER!!!!

more to come hopefully

FuecocoBoi · Sep 27, 2023

FuecocoBoi said:
Let’s a-go!

Name: Trap Toss
Power: 30
Accuracy: Cannot Miss
Type: Dark
Effect: Moves all entry hazards to the enemy’s side. If Stealth Rocks were moved, deal 1/8th of the enemy’s health as a Dark type move. If Spikes were moved, for every layer of spikes, deal 1/12th of the opponents health as damage. If Toxic Spikes were moved, if there was 1 layer, poison the target. If there was 2 layers of toxic spikes, badly poison the target. If Sticky Web was moved, reduce the target’s speed by 1. If Healing Spikes were moved, remove 1 random layer of Spikes, Stealth Rocks, or Toxic Spikes before dealing damage, then destroy the healing spikes.
Distribution: , , , ,more sneaky/gremlin mons
Justifications: Me and the homies all hate Gholdengo. So introducing: Hazard removal that isnt blocked by Gholdengo!

Name: Refrigerate
Power: -
Accuracy: 85%
Type: Ice
Effect: Inflicts Frostbite on the target. (Check Adjustments) If used by an Ice Type, this attack never misses.
Distribution: All ice types, some other guys.
Justification: Chill-O-Wisp. What’s more to say?

Item: Inheritance Will
Effect: When this Pokémon faints/exits the battlefield, the next Pokemon gains all volatile and non-volatile status effects and stat raises/drops from this Pokémon. Single-time use.
Can Be Knocked Off: Yes
Fling Power & Effect: 60 power, reverses all positive status effects on target
Justification: Baton Pass: the item. If you are willing to give up your item, you can massively set up the next Pokemon. This could be changed from switching out to fainting, to lower the usage, or to a item the mon inheritaning the stats can hold.

Damn I love Ice Types
Snow now deals 1/16 chip damage every turn to all non-Ice, Water, and Fire Types
Still retains 1.5x Defense Boost to Ice Types
Freeze has been replaced with Frostbite from PLA
Deals 1/16 damage per turn and halves Special Attack
Moves that previously had a 10% chance to freeze now have a 30% chance to inflict Frostbite, except Ice Beam to keep parity with TBolt
Cannot be inflicted on Ice Types
wii do not care, ice types deserve this

more to come hopefully

Sorry for posting so much , but could someone give me some feedback on this? This is my first post on a Pet Mod, and I’m looking to grow.

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your toast is burned

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Mind the bad garmmar.

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