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QuentinQuonce

QuentinQuonce

formerly green_typhlosion
Spoilers for recently-released games ahead, in case you're new.

Introduction
Having lately bowed to pressure and started paying for a Premium Plan on Pokemon Home, I recently gathered every mythical in the series into one glorious group.

For more than a decade, mythical Pokemon were entirely exclusive to events and could not be obtained in normal gameplay. It wasn't until the release of My Pokemon Ranch that Mew became available on a repeatable, non time-restricted basis. Gradually, others started to be made available without events as well. This has obviously made many mythical Pokemon far easier to obtain than they once were. But some mythicals still remain exclusive to time- or location-locked events, and it's made me curious as to which one is the rarest, or least accessible, of the group.

So I did a little research, and decided to enumerate my findings in case anyone else was curious.

Premise
I decided to look at each mythical and count how many times they have been distributed, and for how long. Primarily, I will be counting the period of days a Pokemon has been made available in total. For equivalent distributions in different countries, they will count as the same distribution unless the dates are different: i.e. if a Pokemon was available from January 1st until March 31st 2022 in PAL regions but from January 15th to March 20th 2022 in Japan, the longer date is counted. Other factors to consider in the case of a tie or an unclear result will be the number of generations relative to the potential maximum it was made available in. For example, if a Pokemon from Gen V was only ever distributed in Gen V and VI, this would make it rarer than one which was distributed in Gen V, VI, VII, and VIII.

No Pokemon game in Gen VIII or IX has the capacity to contain all the mythicals, so I am treating Pokemon Home as the "base" title: the premise assumes that I will be putting any mythical into Home.


Exemptions
So, before we look at periods of availability, we can eliminate any mythical which can be obtained in a main series title via standard gameplay.

Note that for the purpose of this list, "main series" here is taken to mean any title compatible with the main series, including Pokemon Go and spinoffs like Ranch and Colosseum. "Standard gameplay" here is taken to mean:

-for free
For the purposes of this post, the purchase cost of a game, app, or DLC will not be taken into account. "For free" refers to the specific Pokemon itself - if the base game costs $XX but obtaining the mythical costs a further $YY, then it is considered to cost $YY. This distinction is relevant when considering, say, the availability of Mew within LGPE, as this is only possible via the purchase of a peripheral device.

-without a time-locked or ticketed event

-without external influence
...therefore, Pokemon which require save data bonuses (such as Jirachi in BDSP or Shaymin in L:A) are not considered part of standard gameplay, because players need a separate game to obtain them and they are not free. To wit, Deoxys in ORAS may be obtained all the time, by every player; Jirachi in BDSP may not. Below are all the mythical Pokemon obtainable who fit this criteria.



Mew
Mew is available from My Pokemon Ranch if the player deposits 999 Pokemon. However, this does require at least one copy of Diamond or Pearl (or Platinum in Japan).

It is moot now as Ranch can no longer be legitimately downloaded, and since Mew is available from Pokemon Go via the "A Mythical Discovery" questline.

Mew is currently indefinitely available in Pokemon Go and (partially) My Pokemon Ranch

Celebi
Celebi is available in the Virtual Console release of Crystal (edit: as of 2023, no longer available) and also from Pokemon Go via the "A Ripple In Time" questline.

Celebi is currently indefinitely available in Pokemon Go and (with caveats) Pokemon Crystal's Virtual Console edition

Jirachi
Jirachi is available from Pokemon Go via the "A Thousand-Year Slumber" questline.

edit: Something I originally forgot to take into account when writing this post is that Jirachi can be obtained in Pokemon Channel through regular gameplay (as opposed its availability in Colosseum, which required a bonus disc) and then transferred to Pokemon Ruby or Sapphire. This would make it freely available in Gen III, especially when factoring in that it can be repeatedly obtained with different save files. Considering Pokemon Channel a main series game is quite the stretch even despite its ability to connect to the GBA titles; however, it would fit the criteria of being available without restriction so by this thread's metrics it counts.

Jirachi is currently indefinitely available in Pokemon Go and in Pokemon Channel

Deoxys
Deoxys is encountered in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire as part of the storyline, making it the first mythical to be capturable in-game without the need for an event item.

Deoxys is currently indefinitely available in Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire

Phione
Phione is encountered in Legends: Arceus as part of the storyline. It is, of course, also infinitely available in games where breeding is possible if the player already has a Manaphy or a Phione.

Phione is currently indefinitely available in Pokemon Legends: Arceus

Manaphy
Manaphy is encountered in Legends: Arceus as part of the storyline. It is also available in Pokemon Home as a reward for completing the BDSP Sinnoh dex with Pokemon native to those titles.

Manaphy is currently indefinitely available in Pokemon Legends: Arceus, and is indefinitely available in Pokemon Home

Shaymin
Shaymin is available from Pokemon Go via the "Grass and Gratitude" questline.

Shaymin is currently indefinitely available in Pokemon Go

Darkrai
Darkrai is obtainable in the Mega Dimensions DLC.

Darkrai is currently indefinitely available in the Mega Dimensions DLC

Arceus
Arceus is encountered in Legends: Arceus as part of the storyline.

Arceus is currently indefinitely available in Pokemon Legends: Arceus

Victini
Victini is available in Pokemon Go via the "Investigate A Mysterious Energy" questline.

Victini is currently indefinitely available in Pokemon Go

Keldeo
Keldeo is available in the Crown Tundra DLC and in the Mega Dimensions DLC. It is also available in Pokemon Home as a reward for completing the Galar, Isle of Armour, and Crown Tundra Pokedexes with Pokemon native to those titles. It has been announced that it will be freely available in Pokemon Go via a new special research questline, but at the time of writing this has not been made available.

Keldeo is currently indefinitely available in the Crown Tundra DLC and in the Mega Dimensions DLC. It is also indefinitely available in Pokemon Home, and is planned to be indefinitely available in Pokemon Go.

Meloetta
Meloetta is available in the Indigo Disk DLC and in the Mega Dimensions DLC. It is also available in Pokemon Home as a reward for completing the Paldea, Kitakami, and Blueberry Pokedexes with Pokemon native to those titles. It is also available from Pokemon Go via the "Finding Your Voice" questline.

Meloetta is currently indefinitely available in the Indigo Disk DLC and in the Mega Dimensions DLC. It is also indefinitely available in Pokemon Home and in Pokemon Go.

Genesect
Genesect is available in the Mega Dimensions DLC.

Meloetta is currently indefinitely available in the Mega Dimensions DLC.

Diancie
Diancie is available in the Mega Dimensions DLC. It is also available in Pokemon Go via the "Glitz and Glam" questline.

Diancie is currently indefinitely available in the Mega Dimensions DLC, and is also indefinitely available in Pokemon Go.

Hoopa
Hoopa is available in the Mega Dimensions DLC.

Hoopa is currently indefinitely available in the Mega Dimensions DLC

Volcanion
Volcanion is available in the Mega Dimensions DLC. At the time of writing, it is not currently available in Pokemon Go; however, following precedent it is highly likely that it will be released via a new special research questline at some point in the near future.

Volcanion is currently indefinitely available in the Mega Dimensions DLC

Magearna
Magearna is available in Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon via scanning a QR code. This makes it the first mythical to be available via an in-game event before any external event distributions. It is also available in the Mega Dimensions DLC.

The Original Colour Magearna is also technically freely available in Pokemon Home. Six Pokemon are available to the player as Mystery Gifts in Pokemon Home without needing to connect to any other software, meaning that players can technically repeatedly trade to fill the Pokedex without relying on other games. However, in practice this would be extremely difficult and time-consuming. This makes Original Colour Magearna significantly harder to obtain than any of the other "free" mythicals.

Magearna is currently indefinitely available in Pokemon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, Ultra Moon, and in the Mega Dimensions DLC. It is also indefinitely available in Pokemon Home

Marshadow
Marshadow is available in the Mega Dimensions DLC. It is also available in Pokemon Go via the "A Striking Shadow" questline.

Marshadow is currently indefinitely available in the Mega Dimensions DLC, and is also indefinitely available in Pokemon Go.

Zeraora
Zeraora is available in the Mega Dimensions DLC.

Zeraora is currently indefinitely available in the Mega Dimensions DLC

Meltan and Melmetal
Meltan and Melmetal are available in Pokemon Go via the "Let's GO, Meltan!" questline and infinitely through utilising the Mystery Box. Pokemon Home gives the player a Melmetal as a Mystery Gift after transferring any species from Pokemon Go, and a Meltan is also available in Pokemon Home as a reward for completing the LGPE Kanto dex with Pokemon native to those titles. Both species are also separately obtainable in the Mega Dimensions DLC.

Meltan and Melmetal are currently indefinitely available in the Mega Dimensions DLC, in Pokemon Go, and in Pokemon Home

Pecharunt
Pecharunt is obtainable in the Indigo Disk DLC.

Pecharunt is currently indefinitely available in the Indigo Disk DLC



With those examples out of the way, let's move on to the Pokemon not freely available.

Zarude
Zarude was, at one point, available in Pokemon Go via the "Search for Zarude!" questline, which was timelocked and is currently no longer available. It has not been obtainable in any form since then.

Zarude has had six distinct distributions in Gen VIII and two in Gen IX, and has been available for 535 days in total. Though I listed Zarude above, I am including it here too because as the most recent mythical Pokemon, I had initially intended to omit it from the listing as it seemed likely that its numbers would have been far lower than the rest, making it an outlier. However, after seeing that Zarude's number is higher than Diancie's, I decided to include it.

EDIT: The Dada form of Zarude has so far been available for 338 days in total, and has not been distributed in Gen IX. As BlizzardHero notes below, the circumstances of the pandemic made obtaining it potentially more difficult than previous legendary and mythical distributions, meaning that its wide availability does not necessarily indicate the full story.

Original form Zarude was last available on May 31st, 2025 from an event distribution, while Dada Zarude was last available on December 31, 2021 from an event distribution

So, since this thread started... we now only have one mythical Pokemon left which has not been made available without restriction in some form. Thus the conclusion has become pretty much a given! Seeing as that's a bit undramatic, I thought I'd throw together a few other stats in case anything of interest jumped out at me.

Longest event-exclusive mythical
After a staggering 22 years of being exclusive to events and raids, Darkrai became ordinarily obtainable in 2025 with the release of the Legends: Z-A Mega Dimensions DLC. Manaphy just narrowly beats out Shaymin for second place, as Manaphy was event-exclusive from its first distribution in December 2006 until the release of Legends: Arceus in 2022; Shaymin was first released as an event distribution in July 2008 (with the Oak's Letter item not being made available until 2009) and subsequently being released for free in Pokemon Go in 2023.

Longest shiny-locked mythical
Despite all its fellow Gen V mythicals having had their shiny forms made available, and numerous mythicals from later generations getting their turn before it, Victini has been shiny-locked for over fifteen years since it was first made available in September 2010. Hoopa follows it in second place, having first been made available in July 2015; Volcanion, first released in April 2016, is third. Magearna, Marshadow, Zarude, and Pecharunt are the only other remaining shiny-locked mythical Pokemon.

Shortest shiny-locked mythical
Not counting those available at base release (Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, and Deoxys), Genesect took the shortest amount of time for its shiny form to become available, first being distributed in non-shiny form in August 2012 and then again in shiny form in June 2013: less than a full year later. Diancie followed a similar release pattern, first being distributed in non-shiny form in 2014 before its shiny was distributed in 2015 (though with a gap of 18 months compared to Genesect's 11). However, both of these Pokemon are eclipsed by Meltan, which debuted in Pokemon Go in November 2018 and had its shiny released a mere four months later in February 2019.

Widest availability
Due to being encounterable in two games as well as Pokemon Home and Go, Meloetta and Keldeo are neck-and-neck for the top spot of most easily-attainable mythical. Note that "widest-available" in this context refers to the freely-available methods outlined herein, rather than referring to number and/or method of distributions: were that to be the case, Mew would almost certainly take the top spot purely due to its position as the oldest mythical. Of the two, Meloetta edges its way to the top spot due to being available for longer - it has been freely available in Go since September 2021, and in the Indigo Disk since December 2023, vs Keldeo's availability in the Crown Tundra since October 2020 and being still-to-come in Go. After them come Meltan, Melmetal, and Magearna, who all have various methods of obtainability across several different titles.

Most readily available shiny form
Not much in this one. Of all the mythicals whose shiny forms are obtainable, both Meltan and Manaphy are available for the lowest effort, requiring only 150 Pokemon to be registered in their respective games vs 584 and 659 for Keldeo and Meloetta respectively. Discounting event distributions of shiny mythicals, Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin, and Keldeo's (as well as Diancie's currently-unreleased) masterwork researches in Pokemon Go would count as events due to being time-restricted and each require significant effort and time investment. Shiny Meltan is catchable in Pokemon Go at a boosted rate, albeit only during specific event periods; however, this added availability pushes it slightly ahead of Manaphy, which is otherwise extremely difficult to obtain in shiny form.


TL;DR

There isn't one, this is the whole post. Thanks for reading.


Updated as of December 2025
 
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I think disallowing the save data bonuses is a little weird. It's true its not "free" by definition of needing another game, but as far as these things go its actually fairly accessible (& future proof). If you're going to count Mew & Melmetal (good luck getting this without Let's Go or Home, honestly....) I think you should absolutely count the save bonuses.

e: More to the point of this topic, it's wild to me that Diancie isn't available anywhere in gen 7 or 8. Especially since they keep putting it in spin offs!
 
R_N said:
I think disallowing the save data bonuses is a little weird. It's true its not "free" by definition of needing another game, but as far as these things go its actually fairly accessible (& future proof).
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Ehhh I went back and forth on that but the key point in the OP was "external influence", hence me equivalating it to events. Like, if you only had a copy of Brilliant Diamond and nothing else, you would never be able to get the save data bonus mythicals. Granted that's a highly specific circumstance (and yes you can borrow a friend's copy or whatever) but as I said I'm talking about standard gameplay, which I don't think this is.

Also wrt it being a future proof method, it's entirely possible that in a decade when the Switch is old news and Nintendo inevitably shuts down the online services as it always does in favour of whatever console is current, digital copies of the Gen VIII games will at some point no longer be available and physical copies will become difficult/expensive to obtain. To put it another way, I can buy Omega Ruby (an eight-year old game at this point) today and get a Deoxys with no strings attached; I'm not sure that the same can be said for Brilliant Diamond.

Also, accessibility isn't the be all and end all; there's no reason to assume that because someone has one of the Gen VIII games they have access to (or even the inclination to obtain) others.


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If you're going to count Mew & Melmetal (good luck getting this without Let's Go or Home, honestly....)
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Uh... what? Mew is a paid extra in LGPE and Melmetal cannot be obtained in LGPE at all. As I stated, my premise assumes that Home is the "base title" you're using, meaning that the assumption is that you're transferring the mythical in question to Home via the path of least resistance.

Mew and Melmetal can both be obtained in Go with no impediment or cost and be transferred straight to Home; Let's Go isn't needed for that process (not least because transferring any Pokemon to Home from Go nets you a free Melmetal anyway). And because both Go and Home are free, they're by definition more accessible than any other game in the series.
 
green_typhlosion said:
Ehhh I went back and forth on that but the key point in the OP was "external influence", hence me equivalating it to events. Like, if you only had a copy of Brilliant Diamond and nothing else, you would never be able to get the save data bonus mythicals. Granted that's a highly specific circumstance (and yes you can borrow a friend's copy or whatever) but as I said I'm talking about standard gameplay, which I don't think this is.

Also wrt it being a future proof method, it's entirely possible that in a decade when the Switch is old news and Nintendo inevitably shuts down the online services as it always does in favour of whatever console is current, digital copies of the Gen VIII games will at some point no longer be available and physical copies will become difficult/expensive to obtain. To put it another way, I can buy Omega Ruby (an eight-year old game at this point) today and get a Deoxys with no strings attached; I'm not sure that the same can be said for Brilliant Diamond.

Also, accessibility isn't the be all and end all; there's no reason to assume that because someone has one of the Gen VIII games they have access to (or even the inclination to obtain) others.
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I mean if you have no problems buying Omega Ruby 8 years out & hypothetical Legends Arceus in some X years from now you're not going to have problems buying Brilliant Diamond in this scenario, I feel certain.

I wasn't even considering difficulty in tracking down the games for this because that's a problem that applies to literally everything* and will likely more strongly affect the 3DS titles** before Switch's titles get to this worry point. Just that you can do it and if you're tracking down one well you're probably tracking down another.
Anyway when I think availability i think "you can do this with minimal difficulty in the future". Contrast with Ranch which is...much more annoying if you want everything "legit", since you'd be required to actually track down used Wiis

*This list will become VERY depressing whenever Go decides to shut down
**Incidentally if anyone wants the Celebi you should probably buy Crystal while you still can...

Uh... what? Mew is a paid extra in LGPE and Melmetal cannot be obtained in LGPE at all. As I stated, my premise assumes that Home is the "base title" you're using, meaning that the assumption is that you're transferring the mythical in question to Home via the path of least resistance.

Mew and Melmetal can both be obtained in Go with no impediment or cost and be transferred straight to Home; Let's Go isn't needed for that process (not least because transferring any Pokemon to Home from Go nets you a free Melmetal anyway). And because both Go and Home are free, they're by definition more accessible than any other game in the series.
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The parenthetical was for Melmetal specifically because getting Melmetal without that free one from Home is a god damn nightmare. The amount of timers and shit you have to catch to actually evolve it...horrible.

Thankfully I did forget that the Go Transporter doesnt require an extra fee (because it wants you to spend microtransactions in go for fast recharges lol) and that the Home G-Max Melmetal gift has no timer. So long as those two things remain true at least no one has to deal with that beyond the one time for Meltan.
 
I think the rarest mythical Pokémon untill the third generation was the Jirachi.
Mew have a famous glitch to catch him.
Celebi have the pokeball GS event in pokémon Crystal.
Mew, Deoxys, Lugia and Ho Oh have events to catch in the remakes.
Just Jirachi is just obtable via cheat. So I think here is the rarest.
 
Shedinja-43152 said:
I think the rarest mythical Pokémon untill the third generation was the Jirachi.
Mew have a famous glitch to catch him.
Celebi have the pokeball GS event in pokémon Crystal.
Mew, Deoxys, Lugia and Ho Oh have events to catch in the remakes.
Just Jirachi is just obtable via cheat. So I think here is the rarest.
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If we're limiting it to Gen 3 specifically, and considering all avenues at the time, Jirachi has the Colosseum bonus disc that let's you get as many as you want provided you want to keep restarting your games. While Europe has to rely on Channel and Japan didn't get this at all (THEIR bonus disc instead had a Celebi as a 100% Colosseum save data bonus; but they also got like yearly give aways of Jirachi for tanabata so hey give & take) I think this puts the ball into Jirachi's court.
 
Rapti said:
bet you it's because it mega evolves and Gamefreak wants to forget that ever happened
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GF: Hehe, let's kill off the gimmicks each new gen now, so we can keep introducing new dumb wonky things to sell more games/toys
TPC writing the anime and adding every gimmick back in: We're doing what now?
GF: Surprised Pikachu Face
green_typhlosion said:
I decided to look at each mythical and count how many times they have been distributed, and for how long. Primarily, I will be counting the period of days a Pokemon has been made available in total.
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I think you really should differentiate between the different permanent mythical forms, namely for A: Original Magearna and B: Dada Zarude. Other form changes are mostly free to do in-game (depending on story progression prerequisites), but both Original Magearna and Dada Zarude are locked to their specific forms, and thus have different distribution quirks.

Original Magearna is ofc free to obtain provided that you have both Home and dex entries for all Pokemon - which is a pretty high perquisite. So while it is free, it certainly is the hardest of the "free" mythical Pokemon to obtain.

Dada Zarude is a different story. In order to get it, you'd need to have either gone to the movie premier in-person in Japan/Korea/Taiwan (I to, travel internationally during a pandemic just to get a single mon! Yay!) or have signed up for the newsletter prior to whenever the international distribution occurred. About half of the Zarude distributions were Dada Zarude. While I don't have data on the exact date data, it's probably safe to assume that it's about 50/50%. Which, would probably make Zarude in it's various forms a bit more exclusive.
 
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BlizzardHero said:
I think you really should differentiate between the different permanent mythical forms, namely for A: Original Magearna and B: Dada Zarude. Other form changes are mostly free to do in-game (depending on story progression prerequisites), but both Original Magearna and Dada Zarude are locked to their specific forms, and thus have different distribution quirks.

Original Magearna is ofc free to obtain provided that you have both Home and dex entries for all Pokemon - which is a pretty high perquisite. So while it is free, it certainly is the hardest of the "free" mythical Pokemon to obtain.

Dada Zarude is a different story. In order to get it, you'd need to have either gone to the movie premier in-person in Japan/Korea/Taiwan (I to, travel internationally during a pandemic just to get a single mon! Yay!) or have signed up for the newsletter prior to whenever the international distribution occurred. About half of the Zarude distributions were Dada Zarude. While I don't have data on the exact date data, it's probably safe to assume that it's about 50/50%. Which, would probably make Zarude in it's various forms a bit more exclusive.
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This is a really good point and something I didn't consider too much when writing the original post - because after all, forms are irrelevant to Pokedex completion. Original Colour Magearna or regular Magearna, you've still got the dex entry. But yes, Original Colour Magearna would certainly be the hardest variant form to obtain in terms of sheer effort.

But you made another good point re Dada Zarude - I actually had a lot of difficulty obtaining Zarude during my "complete Home without paying a penny" challenge because of the complexity with trading the different Zarude releases. Can the Dada Zarude be traded now? Just Googled and can't get a straight answer...

Will edit the OP. Thanks for contributing!
 
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Rereading this earlier and amused at how things have changed since I wrote it, so I updated it a bit to reflect current state of affairs. Diancie is still technically the rarest mythical, though in the wider sense Zarude has now moved from second place to first.

We won't know for certain until both parts of the Teal Mask DLC are released, but it'll be interesting whether any of the species in it correspond to mythicals as we think of them. I said the other day that we might have seen the end of mythicals in the series in the old sense, but maybe it'll be time to expand the category by broaden the definition of the term. Calyrex, for instance, is categorised as a legendary rather than a mythical - but will it be made available regularly in future titles?
 
The thing I'd be interested to see is if they repurpose Legendaries to fit new gimmicks as an excuse to reintroduce them (temporarily or permanently): for example they could tie Diancie to the Tera Crystals instead of the Gems and Mega stuff if they're ditching that gimmick.

I expect anything labeled "Legendary" will be regularly obtainable within 2-3 Gens of its debut once the novelty/rarity of them has worn off, especially since without the Mythical label they have to be accounted for in VGC, something TPC already is getting a lot of heat for problems with among other issues and thus is within their resources to fix.
 
With the release of the Mega Dimensions DLC for Z-A which contains an unprecedentedly large amount of mythical encounters, figured I'd update this thread. Suffice to say that the landscape looks very different now compared to 2022. How quickly things change.
 
QuentinQuonce said:
With the release of the Mega Dimensions DLC for Z-A which contains an unprecedentedly large amount of mythical encounters, figured I'd update this thread. Suffice to say that the landscape looks very different now compared to 2022. How quickly things change.
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Diancie actually is indefinitely available in the same way Pecharunt is; the event mission for it has no time limit

After the deluge from Mega Dimensions I feel like they really want to have all the Mythics more freely available in the "modern" era across the games so I really feel like Gen 10 will finally give Victini its dues and Zarude will be made available permanently too. Finger's crossed! Celebi & Deoxys would also be nice to see leave the 3DS era.
 
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Diancie actually is indefinitely available in the same way Pecharunt is; the event mission for it has no time limit

After the deluge from Mega Dimensions I feel like they really want to have all the Mythics more freely available in the "modern" era across the games so I really feel like Gen 10 will finally give Victini its dues and Zarude will be made available permanently too. Finger's crossed! Celebi & Deoxys would also be nice to see leave the 3DS era.
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I could see some sort of storyline involving Celebi vs Zarude. Forest vs Jungle
 
Esserise said:
Walking Wake and Iron Leaves are now genuinely less accessible than most Mythicals lol

Here’s hoping they eventually get the “raids available until server shutdown” treatment that all of the GMaxes got for SwSh
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I was actually thinking about elaborating on the "mythical creep" of the last couple of gens. Walking Wake, Iron Leaves, Calyrex, and Enamorus have all to various been treated more like mythicals than the nominal legendaries they are. WW and IL aren't required to complete the Blueberry dex; notably Calyrex is only obtainable in the Crown Tundra DLC and not catchable in ScVi (unlike Kubfu); shiny Enamorus is the reward for completing the Hisui dex in Home, as opposed to the others which give out a shiny mythical species instead. Would expect this to continue going forward.

Was also thinking about how in Pokemon Go with the yearly region "tour" events they've released a masterwork special research with a shiny mythical for that gen and what future tours might release: for Kanto it was Mew, for Hoenn it was Jirachi, for Sinnoh it was Shaymin, for Unova it was Meloetta, and for Kalos it will be Diancie. Johto was the exception since they released shiny Celebi to promote its movie and had to do a masterwork research for a special Shadow Ho-Oh and Lugia. They're sort of in a bind for Alola since they haven't released any of its mythicals yet to do a shiny rerelease for (so the money's probably on Zeraora being released at some point next year) but for Galar there's not really an obvious candidate for the masterwork research other than shiny Eternatus, unless Zarude gets a shiny release in the main series before 2028. Similarly unless Pecharunt is released in shiny form in the main series an eventual Paldea tour wouldn't have a natural candidate either: the only legendaries from Gen IX with released shinies so far are Koraidon and Miraidon. Of course, there's a long time to go until 2029...
 
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QuentinQuonce said:
I was actually thinking about elaborating on the "mythical creep" of the last couple of gens. Walking Wake, Iron Leaves, Calyrex, and Enamorus have all to various been treated more like mythicals than the nominal legendaries they are. WW and IL aren't required to complete the Blueberry dex; notably Calyrex is only obtainable in the Crown Tundra DLC and not catchable in ScVi (unlike Kubfu); shiny Enamorus is the reward for completing the Hisui dex in Home, as opposed to the others which give out a shiny mythical species instead. Would expect this to continue going forward.
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In fairness to Calyrex & Enamorus they're hardly the only one in that boat. None of the Regi, including the two new ones, are available to catch in SV. Neither are the wolves, Eternatus, all the Sinnoh legends, the other forces of nature...Mewtwo, Dialga & Palkia were only around as limited time raids that only ever ran once (I think, maybe they ran twice like normal)

Which was all very dumb for various reasons but not too dissimilar to eg Gen 5 where most of the restricted mons were transfer only or event.
 
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In fairness to Calyrex & Enamorus they're hardly the only one in that boat. None of the Regi, including the two new ones, are available to catch in SV. Neither are the wolves, Eternatus, all the Sinnoh legends, the other forces of nature...Mewtwo, Dialga & Palkia were only around as limited time raids that only ever ran once (I think, maybe they ran twice like normal)

Which was all very dumb for various reasons but not too dissimilar to eg Gen 5 where most of the restricted mons were transfer only or event.
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All of those, though, are available in SwSh or L:A or BDSP, so they're available in a "current" title. LZA doesn't contain every single legendary either, but pretty much every legendary mon is available in at least two of the Switch titles.

For the newer species though they need to keep some measure of exclusivity for the sake of sales. Calyrex only being available from one place means people still need to buy the DLC to get it. Or with Enamorus there's not much else from L:A to make use of: no event-only mythicals, no other new legendaries. So it gets the semi-mythical treatment.
 
R_N said:
After the deluge from Mega Dimensions I feel like they really want to have all the Mythics more freely available in the "modern" era across the games so I really feel like Gen 10 will finally give Victini its dues and Zarude will be made available permanently too.
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I was going to make a comment about adding V-Create to Victini's movepool instead of it being an event move, but I quickly looked it up and SWSH actually did that already. Huh.

Also, from my understanding, Calyrex is very blatantly Pay2Win for VGC's restricted formats and that's probably why the tiny horse king is tied to SWSH DLC for now.
 
This thread makes me think of what I’m dubbing “the scrapped Victini rumor” in Sword & Shield because the more I think about it, the more I start to think Victini fits better in Galar than it does in its actual home region. I mean, come on, the protagonist’s names are Victor and Gloria, do I really have to spell this one out?

When Deoxys was made available in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire and subsequently has t been made available since then, I feel like that was the beginning of a sort of “Pandora’s Box” effect where, fast forward to Legends Z-A and almost every Mythical is available outside of or as part of an untimed event in some capacity. Almost. I was personally wondering if Deoxys would show up again in Mega Dimension but it looks like that’s going to be a No unless they have an extra update to add to the game or something, but Victini remains the current oldest Mythical that hasn’t returned in such a way if you’re not counting something like Pokémon Go or Pokémon Home.

I have a decent idea of when they could be planning on bringing Victini back but I’m not going to talk about that just yet. For now I’m just going to suggest it’s one of the more rare ones for the time being.

:ss/victini:
 
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