Actually yeah, I figured out what was bothering me about his shot. He seems way to complicit as the last scum to have him or me shot in some order. Now there are excuses to be made that he's just given up. But to me, his commitment to this plan feels to genuine to be the mindset of a scum where this would be a game losing play.
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NOC Why is there a gun in my popcorn? GAME OVER SCUM WIN
- Thread starter Panic Station
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I have a full gameplan for town to follow for the remainder of this game, planning on refining and posting it once i'm home and on my computer. It all assumes worst-case scenario of shooting town repeatedly, but it's more likely we hit scum before it reaches that stage
eh yea but:
they both do it. moody's sounds more like a scumslip than fh's.
i think if moody v fh is tvt we seriously look at walrein. i don't disagree that one of the two should be shot today and it should be moody who i am 95% sure is scum at this point. but it's a narrow suggestion.
scumoody means i had 3/4 of the scum in my idling cuck top shot list for most of the game, exactly why ag and others would want to discredit me before i could get people convinced on moody, but, never actually get me shot or their team would get blown tf up, especially once ag progressed to my 5th shot. dbw was the first of the idling cucks to get shot off my list wasnt he? ye so i had 4 straight shots onto mafia once he was gone with my prio list. and the ag flip made sam look super bad at the end of it.
moody makes more sense as a partner to ag and sam than fh does imo.
to think fh is more likely in a vacuum you would have to think that fh intentionally buddied me and ag and sam intentionally tried to set up this dynamic that if one of them flipped scum, i would as well. now, sam and ag are exactly the kind of scum i think would do this, but i also think fh just isnt as Bad in posts as moody.
to think fh is more likely in a vacuum you would have to think that fh intentionally buddied me and ag and sam intentionally tried to set up this dynamic that if one of them flipped scum, i would as well. now, sam and ag are exactly the kind of scum i think would do this, but i also think fh just isnt as Bad in posts as moody.
i'm still pinged by how quickly sam came rushing into the thread to take the pressure off of fh, plus the fact that fh basically disappeared while i was scrapping with sam
speaking of which you really think i'm potential wolfbros with sam after all that shit? i mean i'm all for some good tinfoil but you really think either of us has it in us to manufacture that huge fake argument given how afk we've been?
if flyhn decides to shoot me whatever i'll just pop off on fh and hopefully end the game. would still rather cut out the middleman
speaking of which you really think i'm potential wolfbros with sam after all that shit? i mean i'm all for some good tinfoil but you really think either of us has it in us to manufacture that huge fake argument given how afk we've been?
if flyhn decides to shoot me whatever i'll just pop off on fh and hopefully end the game. would still rather cut out the middleman
that being said let's turn up the heat on blazade.
this is a guy who has been saying sam couldn't possibly be mafia due to 'wagonomics' in a game where scum benefit from bussing.
he seems to be actively lurking. look at his posts, nobody pings him when he replies but he replies sporadically and seems to know there's something relevant for him to reply TO. his activity is really poor this game and i think it's more similar to Amnesiac G1 where he wasn't sure of his alignment.. he tried to play as town when he wasn't. with such an undeveloped scumgame that we've seen i think he may just be strategizing the same as sam did, only post when it seems important to rather than actively try and solve the game.
this is a guy who has been saying sam couldn't possibly be mafia due to 'wagonomics' in a game where scum benefit from bussing.
he seems to be actively lurking. look at his posts, nobody pings him when he replies but he replies sporadically and seems to know there's something relevant for him to reply TO. his activity is really poor this game and i think it's more similar to Amnesiac G1 where he wasn't sure of his alignment.. he tried to play as town when he wasn't. with such an undeveloped scumgame that we've seen i think he may just be strategizing the same as sam did, only post when it seems important to rather than actively try and solve the game.
i think i would shoot the other players in the game before you at this moment but i am not lock towning anyone. the 2 remaining scum have a lot of incentive to try and hardclear one by starting something at this point in time.
sam on blazade:
"In any case I'd be fine with a shot on any of Walrein, Moody, Blazade, or FH at this point. Blazade has been improving somewhat while Moody has gotten consistently worse"
"Reading back through AG's posts more maybe I was wrong on Blazade and he's not a good shot here
Asek I'd be comfortable going to endgame with, Yeti I'm close to that on but not quite there"
sam places fh above moody to be shot as well.
"Walrein and Blazade look terrible at this point and would be my first shots, after that I think that AG has a lot of terrible posts lately. FH and moody look sketchy but I wouldn't shoot them yet while I think Yeti is leaning town and Asek is the closest thing I have left to a strong townread since PEOPLE KEEP SHOOTING MY TOWNREADS
Right now since Blazade is posting I'd say pressure Walrein since it is the only way he will respond at this point clearly. Blazade I am very interested to see more clearly who he would want shot and would want to go to endgame with if not himself"
"Blazade Walrein King_ Moody
These are who I would shoot today
Walrein more because DLE was obv mafia than him (he's been pretty much null)
Blazade because this is definitely Blazade's scum meta at this point"
asek is the odd one out here from the other options; blazade has been grouped with walrein and moody a lot by sam, fh with moody. asek is the consistent town read in here.
sam also doesn't really have a reason to say blazade has been 'improving' he just sort of Does when blazade's posts have been WAGONOMICS which we now know are false.
that being said i think this would point more to asek as sam's partner than the other 3.
sam on blazade:
"In any case I'd be fine with a shot on any of Walrein, Moody, Blazade, or FH at this point. Blazade has been improving somewhat while Moody has gotten consistently worse"
"Reading back through AG's posts more maybe I was wrong on Blazade and he's not a good shot here
Asek I'd be comfortable going to endgame with, Yeti I'm close to that on but not quite there"
sam places fh above moody to be shot as well.
"Walrein and Blazade look terrible at this point and would be my first shots, after that I think that AG has a lot of terrible posts lately. FH and moody look sketchy but I wouldn't shoot them yet while I think Yeti is leaning town and Asek is the closest thing I have left to a strong townread since PEOPLE KEEP SHOOTING MY TOWNREADS
Right now since Blazade is posting I'd say pressure Walrein since it is the only way he will respond at this point clearly. Blazade I am very interested to see more clearly who he would want shot and would want to go to endgame with if not himself"
"Blazade Walrein King_ Moody
These are who I would shoot today
Walrein more because DLE was obv mafia than him (he's been pretty much null)
Blazade because this is definitely Blazade's scum meta at this point"
asek is the odd one out here from the other options; blazade has been grouped with walrein and moody a lot by sam, fh with moody. asek is the consistent town read in here.
sam also doesn't really have a reason to say blazade has been 'improving' he just sort of Does when blazade's posts have been WAGONOMICS which we now know are false.
that being said i think this would point more to asek as sam's partner than the other 3.
in #1616 you had former hope as a higher priority shot than asek. what changed?
build me a case on asek when you get home from work
Is saying that I may be wrong and die a scumslip now
There is only one scum remaining ?
hi
you've been townreading sam for most of the game; does his flip change your perception on anything? and who do you think should be shot/pressured?
i will maintain it makes little sense for sam to townread myself, flyhn and twin in any case; I thought it was incredibly unlikely that either twin or flyhn got shot, let alone myself, which would lead to sam not being able to win in at best from his point, 4 player remaining position
could have been a distancing technique to make his perspective appear differently from any scumteam members who may not have been townreading those three players
I think the final scum is still between former hope and blazade, more likely former hope
I think moody is pretty clean
I would be very suprised if you and yeti were mafia
With 1 scum left, there would be a lot of suprise if yeti and walrein were scun.
Here's the gameplan assuming worst-case scenario all town flips. Of course, it'll likely end before we get to the Three-Man Lylo stage given how i read the game, but this guarantees victory unless Walrein/Yeti is the last scum, and even still it's a 50/50 if that is the case
Full plan:
-I shoot Moody
-Moody shoots Former
-Former shoots in Asek/Blazade, whichever they feel is least likely to guess correctly between Walrein/Yeti in a F3 if it actually comes to that
-Asek/Blazade shoots Blazade/Asek,and if everyone to this point flips town they become the last gun, and get to decide between Walrein/Yeti to hopefully win us the game if they're correct
That said, i wish you guys luck if Moody's not the scum. Follow this plan, and victory is at WORST 50/50, anything less than worst it's already over for scum
KnightsofCydonia
Shoot MoodyCloud
Good Luck, friends. Follow the plan and we win (or..50/50 if my townreads are off base. I strongly believe they aren't). Scum may as well concede, but if they don't, DON'T just assume it's Walrein/Yeti right there, it could just be a wifom to deviate us from the plan and get them shot earlier
Full plan:
-I shoot Moody
-Moody shoots Former
-Former shoots in Asek/Blazade, whichever they feel is least likely to guess correctly between Walrein/Yeti in a F3 if it actually comes to that
-Asek/Blazade shoots Blazade/Asek,and if everyone to this point flips town they become the last gun, and get to decide between Walrein/Yeti to hopefully win us the game if they're correct
That said, i wish you guys luck if Moody's not the scum. Follow this plan, and victory is at WORST 50/50, anything less than worst it's already over for scum
KnightsofCydonia
Shoot MoodyCloud
Good Luck, friends. Follow the plan and we win (or..50/50 if my townreads are off base. I strongly believe they aren't). Scum may as well concede, but if they don't, DON'T just assume it's Walrein/Yeti right there, it could just be a wifom to deviate us from the plan and get them shot earlier
If it IS just Moody and i hit my 3rd in a row, i still say Jalmont mvp gunbarer over me. Most of my shots were on your thoughts ;3
Eeyup. Scum is outside of Walrein/Yeti, we just win. Scum withing Walrein/Yeti, still just 50/50
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