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NOC WikiMafia 2 Game Thread [Day 3]
- Thread starter Celever
- Start date
They certainly did not look good on EOD 2
Same reasons I suspected him yesterday, his posts were seeming fabricated and over thinky and I think there’s a lot of people who have just been townier in general
The only thing he has going for him is that the counterwsgon to him is mafia but like that doesn’t really clear him
And tbh even if he did flip town, despite me thinking he’s scummy, we get so much wagonomic info off that either way
He came in and made posts and in thread he gave town vibes tonally and then in thread he was asking questions like oh am I safer now to like stop posting and I think if you’re mafia you ask that in scum chat lmao
Yeah the 5/6 split that psy brings up, if saber is town it can give a great insight into what mafia was doing d2 and work off that
Oooh, I didn't see him post that last bit. I didn't like the immediate jumping on of me with bluedoom with no reasoning was my main thing, and then just kind of jumping off just as fast. Flandrs explained it really well
Yeah I understand, it’s not like a strong read I’m not going to bat for him but I wouldn’t vote him personally
Pretty much agreed here
I am just gonna liveblog me catching up with the thread while I'm in the car
Liquid: #2028 pings me, while #2074 is a crazy stretch for me too and #2126 seems like an attempt to try and bag a 2-for-1 push on both sides of the Psy/Tommy drama (which imo is T/T). I'm not liking this slot very much.
genisu: #2109 is quite bad, as he acknowledges one of the reasons for why bd is scummy but does nothing to defend him outside of a vote on saber. #1730 again has the same issue as #2109, although this time there is a half-cooked attempt at a defense. The progression from #1551 to #1923 doesn't seem clear to me either - there are no posts talking about this pairing until he shades Tommy at #1923. going back further, #1238 is also a post that doesn't come from town and to me is a scum pre-flipping in order to try and push a vote. Again, would put this slot towards the bottom of my POE.
AF: putting aside my previous consternation, can't say I'm approving of #2205; however, AF has not pushed saber today, so I'll hold off on judgement there for now. I do like her pushing des for a readlist at #1532 and continuing to pressure her on certain thnigs, considering I find des to honestly be pretty scummy on her own terms. Outside of that, not much comment for right now besides a thanks for advancing the thread.
AirC: "(Not saying bluedoom is a good vote, I'm still struggling with that)" from #2210 makes me wonder what the real motivation behind attacking me for defending BD was. I can't say I agree with the townread on genisu, which knocks this slot down quite a few pegs, especially after genisu wasn't at threat of being voted over the past day. The readlist having a "big scumlean" on Flandrs that then dies out without going anywhere bugs me, however, and that alone makes me scumlean this slot
Pebble: Just reading these posts makes me think this slot is a newer townie more than anything. Upon closer inspection, a lot of Pebble's ISO isn't actually very substantial - a lot of it is clarifying game questions or questions to other people moreso than mech or social reads (although I will give props for willingly contributing to the attempts at a mechsolve). #2484 is interesting, because knowing des, it's common for her to vote somewhat nonsensically - altogether, this slot is null to slight townlean for me as of now
Tommy: Saber is now far more towny to me because he was the assembled counterwagon on a day where scum was voted, meaning that scum either concentrated on their designated mislynch target or tried to bus another one of their members over bluedoom (and I find the first scenario exponentially more likely.
Post of the game
Well when for most of the day they wagon was like 3/9 ppl I think it's much more viable. Very real chance yesterday that saber got lynched instead
adore the formatting here
Town
me
Psy / Tommy
AF
Pebble
Peum - his push on me today is emblematic of someone pushing for a misvote on their designated mislynch, even after I said my arguments they weren't rebutted at all
AirC
pulsar - not a fan of how #1910 comes out of nowhere (there is no preceding push on saber outside of maybe #1888 / #1885, and no progression visible to those posts, nor a defense of bluedoom)
liquid
des
genisu
Scum
any names on this list (otoh i'm missing bliz, phoopes, hydro, and Flandrs) are names that I will be re-reading tonight
me
Psy / Tommy
AF
Pebble
Peum - his push on me today is emblematic of someone pushing for a misvote on their designated mislynch, even after I said my arguments they weren't rebutted at all
AirC
pulsar - not a fan of how #1910 comes out of nowhere (there is no preceding push on saber outside of maybe #1888 / #1885, and no progression visible to those posts, nor a defense of bluedoom)
liquid
des
genisu
Scum
any names on this list (otoh i'm missing bliz, phoopes, hydro, and Flandrs) are names that I will be re-reading tonight
i did get targeted by bluedoom unless a different role gives the same like special message in pm
This is good. I like your arguments, this is what I asked for.
##Vote: Unvote
##Vote: Genisu
I'd argue it clears him far more than you believe it does, seeing as I think some of the earlier adopters of the wagon are scum
i dont see how this doesnt explain why i voted saber. i didnt like the slot and gave a reason for it
also wrt to defending bd he literally didnt post shit theres no defense anyone could give other than 'hopefully he gets less busy' which was my thought.
why genisu? i'll do an iso of him if i have to but im interested in your perspective
I'm going to be honest here - the post by Peum @ #2569 reeks of scum pulling back upon receiving some sort of pushback to their seemingly guaranteed push
Ftr I am not typing up my entire reads list on my phone in the car but this is close to where I'm at. Here are my patch notes:
AF and AirC townier, in my skim of EOD2 it seems like they could have easily voted saber and chose to help bury bd instead. Also given their antics at the start of today I don't think genisu can be scum with AF lol. In general I also get a good vibe off of AF's posting and analysis so they're more towny than Airc imo.
DBD I have redder, the early bd defense really reeks of scum trying to enable a hard lurking buddy imo.
Neutral on des, I haven't seen them do much but ig this is their meta
Saber prob town. Saber being the lynch dueling with bd is somewhat exonerating. That being said if they're town I would expect scum to have been voting them. With town saber I'd imagine at most one scum is on bd since any more and they actively chose to kill bd instead of saber. With the way bd was posting yesterday I think he had a fair chance to survive D3 if he actually made it out of D2.
By that same logic I think Phoopes and genisu look worse. Would not be surprised by scum as Phoopes genisu bd dbd + one person from the other wagon