OU Wobbuffet

tehy said:
0 Atk Tyranitar Crunch vs. 54 HP / 232+ Def Wobbuffet: 228-270 (42.6 - 50.5%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery
(228, 230, 234, 236, 240, 242, 242, 246, 248, 252, 254, 258, 260, 264, 266, 270)

ofc pursuit does half of that, and full that when switching out

252 Atk Tyranitar Pursuit vs. 54 HP / 232+ Def Wobbuffet: 138-164 (25.8 - 30.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery
(138, 140, 140, 144, 144, 146, 150, 150, 152, 152, 156, 156, 158, 158, 162, 164)

Counting SS, this has chipped off minimum half your life if you encore+counter (with sitrus, you have 125% life, it does 62.5% around), up to 10% more. Also worth noting;Counter won't one-shot back on a pursuit without rocks support.

In fact, counter won't one-shot a support set at all if it uses pursuit, unless you have a lot of prior damage (about 30%), so it can pursuit three times there (or mix it up with a special move).

So, yeah, i'd like this to be mentioned as a counter. More realistically, i'd like "pursuit" to be the counter instead of Bisharp, and just give a very strong mention to Bisharp, a somewhat mention to Tyranitar, and somewhere there throw out that any pursuit can be problematic (does bandzor still use pursuit? Hell, does anyone still use bandzor?)

Edit: and i should explain the real reason. Even though you can kill tar, it's capable of stacking a lot of unavoidable damage on you. As Wobb, your job's to revenge shit your team needs revenged, but if you take out tar instead (which your team might not give a shit about) it's kind of a problem. Yeah, tar's pretty lukewarm against you overall, but it's hard to check or counter a Stag mon and tar is at least doing an okay job at checking you.
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Realistically speaking, Wobbuffet gets worn down a lot after using Encore at times, so I really do not think that Tyranitar has any advantageous matchup against it, especially since Wobbuffet should almost always be paired with a Healing Wish user to take an immense amount of pressure off of it. I admit that I miscalculated Pursuit, and while Wobbuffet does take a notable amount of unnecessary damage, one instance is not really enough to justify putting it into checks and counters, since Ttar does not consistently beat Wobbuffet to begin with.

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Overview
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Although Wobbuffet is a very specialized Pokemon, it is a very good at what it does: revenge killinger and trappinger. While Wobbuffet appears to have competition from a fellow Shadow Tag user, Gothitelle, Wobbuffet has some notable advantages over it. Wobbuffet is able to fit onto offensive teams much more easily easier than Gothitelle, has a better match-up against offense, and has Encore to handle Pokemon that try to set up on it. (*) However, Wobbuffet is mostly one-dimensional, as it is limited to revenge killing and trapping, has no recovery outside of whatever item it is holding, and is hurt by its low Speed against defensive Pokemon that it would like to lock into Encore. While the high usage of the move Knock Off's high usage is a problem for Wobbuffet, it can actually beat some common Knock Off users, such as Azumarill and Landorus-T, one-on-one. (move sentence to *) Despite having some clear flaws that need to be addressed, do not overlook Wobbuffet, as the support it provides to teams is very useful.

Oh no, it's Wobbuffet!
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name: Oh no, it's Wobbuffet!
move 1: Encore
move 2: Counter
move 3: Mirror Coat
move 4: Safeguard
ability: Shadow Tag
item: Sitrus Berry / Leftovers
evs: 52 HP / 232 Def / 224 SpDef
nature: Bold

Moves
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Encore can lock your opponent the foe into a move that a teammate can take advantage of, and can prevent Wobbuffet from being set up on by things like Belly Drum Azumarill or Dragon Dance Mega Charizard X. Counter and Mirror Coat allow Wobbuffet to return damage back to an opponent who foe that hits it with a physical or special attack, respectively. Safeguard protects Wobbuffet and its teammates from status for a few turns, which can allowing teammates to come in safely on an Encored status move.

Set Details
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The investment in HP and Defense allows to Wobbuffet to survive a Knock Off from Life Orb Bisharp while holding an item, which can be handy in a pinch. The rest of the EVs are put into Special Defense to allow Wobbuffet to handle special attacks much easier. Sitrus Berry is preferred over Leftovers because Wobbuffet wants to have an instant form of recovery, (remove comma) and because it gets worn down a lot. Also, using up an item allows Wobbuffet to take Knock Offs better. However, Leftovers can be used instead for gradual recovery.

Usage Tips
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Wobbuffet is a team supporter primarily for offensive teams that traps and weakens or KOes by trapping and either weakening or KOing Pokemon that are causing problems with for Wobbuffet's teammates. Wobbuffet is best brought in when a teammate has been KOed, or from a U-turn or Volt Switch. Wobbuffet should not be played too recklessly, as it gets worn down rather easily, but one must not be afraid to use it in fear of it getting worn down. Be smart with Encore due to its low PP, but again, do not be afraid to use it. Encore in general is meant to take advantage of the opponent; for example, Wobbuffet can be used as an anti-lead by locking the opponent into Stealth Rock for a teammate to take advantage of. Wobbuffet dislikes Knock Off users, but it can actually beat some of them one-on-one, such as Azumarill and Landorus-T.

Team Options
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Wobbuffet provides valuable support for offensive teams, (remove comma) and prefers fitting onto offense more than a over balanced teams. For teammates, Wobbuffet greatly appreciates Healing Wish support, (remove comma) because it gets worn down very easily, so Latias and Jirachi are good teammates, since they both learn Healing Wish. Wobbuffet's combination of Shadow Tag + Encore can benefit setup sweepers by giving them free turns to set up. Lucario and Mega Charizard X appreciate Wobbuffet's support, (remove comma) and its ability to trap and KO Excadrill, whom which the two usually struggle with. Other setup sweepers, such as Dragonite and Diggersby, can fit make good teammates as well. Wobbuffet is troubled a lot by Bisharp, who which can threaten to KO it after some prior damage with Knock Off or Pursuit; as such, a Fighting-type, such as Terrakion or Keldeo, makes for a good teammate to handle Bisharp. Landorus-I pairs well with Destiny Bond Wobbuffet, which handles if it is running Destiny Bond, as it appreciates its ability to handle Latias and Chansey for Landorus.


Other Options
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Tickle can be used with a Pursuit trapper to remove the opponent's walls from the match, but this is gimmicky at best, and Wobbuffet has better things to do. Destiny Bond looks good on paper to score a free KO once Wobbuffet is at low on health, but it really misses Safeguard, often lacks the Speed to pull it off, and does not have room for it.

Checks & Counters
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**Bisharp**: Bisharp is a huge pain in the neck for Wobbuffet, as it can KO it Wobbuffet with Knock Off, (remove comma) or can trap a weakened Wobbuffet with Pursuit. However, a Bisharp should not be too reckless, as trying to set up on it Wobbuffet or failing to KO it can backfire and be exploited.
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**Taunt + Status**: Taunt and status can debilitate Wobbuffet and can keep it from doing its job as efficiently. Poison and burns can wear down Wobbuffet, and other forms of status hinder it as well. Wobbuffet can function without when Taunted, but it needs more prediction. (switch these two sentences)
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**VoltTurn + Counter / Mirror Coat immunities**: The easiest way to handle Wobbuffet is to U-turn or Volt Switch into a Ghost- or Dark-type, respectively; the former type being immune to Counter, (remove comma) and the latter type being immune to Mirror Coat. This prevents Wobbuffet from doing its job, (remove comma) and minimizes the damage it inflicts upon the opponent's team.
 
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Overview
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Although Wobbuffet is a very specialized Pokemon, it is a very good at what it does: revenge killinger and trappinger. While Wobbuffet appears to have competition from a fellow Shadow Tag user, Gothitelle, Wobbuffet has some notable advantages over it. Wobbuffet is able to fit onto offensive teams much more easily easier than Gothitelle, has a better match-up against offense, and has Encore to handle Pokemon that try to set up on it. (*) However, Wobbuffet is mostly one-dimensional, as it is limited to revenge killing and trapping, has no recovery outside of whatever item it is holding, and is hurt by its low Speed against defensive Pokemon that it would like to lock into Encore. While the high usage of the move Knock Off's high usage is a problem for Wobbuffet, it can actually beat some common Knock Off users, such as Azumarill and Landorus-T, one-on-one. (move sentence to *) Despite having some clear flaws that need to be addressed, do not overlook Wobbuffet, as the support it provides to teams is very useful.

Oh no, it's Wobbuffet!
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name: Oh no, it's Wobbuffet!
move 1: Encore
move 2: Counter
move 3: Mirror Coat
move 4: Safeguard
ability: Shadow Tag
item: Sitrus Berry / Leftovers
evs: 52 HP / 232 Def / 224 SpDef
nature: Bold

Moves
========
Encore can lock your opponent the foe into a move that a teammate can take advantage of, and can prevent Wobbuffet from being set up on by things like Belly Drum Azumarill or Dragon Dance Mega Charizard X. Counter and Mirror Coat allow Wobbuffet to return damage back to an opponent who foe that hits it with a physical or special attack, respectively. Safeguard protects Wobbuffet and its teammates from status for a few turns, which can allowing teammates to come in safely on an Encored status move.

Set Details
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The investment in HP and Defense allows to Wobbuffet to survive a Knock Off from Life Orb Bisharp while holding an item, which can be handy in a pinch. The rest of the EVs are put into Special Defense to allow Wobbuffet to handle special attacks much easier. Sitrus Berry is preferred over Leftovers because Wobbuffet wants to have an instant form of recovery, (remove comma) and because it gets worn down a lot. Also, using up an item allows Wobbuffet to take Knock Offs better. However, Leftovers can be used instead for gradual recovery.

Usage Tips
========
Wobbuffet is a team supporter primarily for offensive teams that traps and weakens or KOes by trapping and either weakening or KOing Pokemon that are causing problems with for Wobbuffet's teammates. Wobbuffet is best brought in when a teammate has been KOed, or from a U-turn or Volt Switch. Wobbuffet should not be played too recklessly, as it gets worn down rather easily, but one must not be afraid to use it in fear of it getting worn down. Be smart with Encore due to its low PP, but again, do not be afraid to use it. Encore in general is meant to take advantage of the opponent; for example, Wobbuffet can be used as an anti-lead by locking the opponent into Stealth Rock for a teammate to take advantage of. Wobbuffet dislikes Knock Off users, but it can actually beat some of them one-on-one, such as Azumarill and Landorus-T.

Team Options
========
Wobbuffet provides valuable support for offensive teams, (remove comma) and prefers fitting onto offense more than a over balanced teams. For teammates, Wobbuffet greatly appreciates Healing Wish support, (remove comma) because it gets worn down very easily, so Latias and Jirachi are good teammates, since they both learn Healing Wish. Wobbuffet's combination of Shadow Tag + Encore can benefit setup sweepers by giving them free turns to set up. Lucario and Mega Charizard X appreciate Wobbuffet's support, (remove comma) and its ability to trap and KO Excadrill, whom which the two usually struggle with. Other setup sweepers, such as Dragonite and Diggersby, can fit make good teammates as well. Wobbuffet is troubled a lot by Bisharp, who which can threaten to KO it after some prior damage with Knock Off or Pursuit; as such, a Fighting-type, such as Terrakion or Keldeo, makes for a good teammate to handle Bisharp. Landorus-I pairs well with Destiny Bond Wobbuffet, which handles if it is running Destiny Bond, as it appreciates its ability to handle Latias and Chansey for Landorus.


Other Options
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Tickle can be used with a Pursuit trapper to remove the opponent's walls from the match, but this is gimmicky at best, and Wobbuffet has better things to do. Destiny Bond looks good on paper to score a free KO once Wobbuffet is at low on health, but it really misses Safeguard, often lacks the Speed to pull it off, and does not have room for it.

Checks & Counters
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**Bisharp**: Bisharp is a huge pain in the neck for Wobbuffet, as it can KO it Wobbuffet with Knock Off, (remove comma) or can trap a weakened Wobbuffet with Pursuit. However, a Bisharp should not be too reckless, as trying to set up on it Wobbuffet or failing to KO it can backfire and be exploited.
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**Taunt + Status**: Taunt and status can debilitate Wobbuffet and can keep it from doing its job as efficiently. Poison and burns can wear down Wobbuffet, and other forms of status hinder it as well. Wobbuffet can function without when Taunted, but it needs more prediction. (switch these two sentences)
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**VoltTurn + Counter / Mirror Coat immunities**: The easiest way to handle Wobbuffet is to U-turn or Volt Switch into a Ghost- or Dark-type, respectively; the former type being immune to Counter, (remove comma) and the latter type being immune to Mirror Coat. This prevents Wobbuffet from doing its job, (remove comma) and minimizes the damage it inflicts upon the opponent's team.
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Overview
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Although Wobbuffet is a very specialized Pokemon, it is very good at what it does: revenge killing and trapping. While Wobbuffet appears to have competition from a fellow Shadow Tag user, Gothitelle, Wobbuffet has some notable advantages over it. Wobbuffet is able to fit onto offensive teams more easily than Gothitelle, has a better match-up matchup against offense, and has Encore to handle Pokemon that try to set up on it. While Knock Off's high usage is a problem for Wobbuffet, it can beat some common Knock Off users, such as Azumarill and Landorus-T, one-on-one. However, Wobbuffet is mostly one-dimensional, as it is limited to revenge killing and trapping, has no recovery outside of whatever item it is holding, and is hurt by its low Speed against defensive Pokemon that it would lock into a move with Encore.

Oh no, it's Wobbuffet!
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name: Oh no, it's Wobbuffet!
move 1: Encore
move 2: Counter
move 3: Mirror Coat
move 4: Safeguard
ability: Shadow Tag
item: Sitrus Berry / Leftovers
evs: 52 HP / 232 Def / 224 SDef
nature: Bold

Moves
========
Encore can lock the foe into a move that a teammate can take advantage of, (RC) and can prevent Wobbuffet from being set up on by things like sweepers such as Belly Drum Azumarill or and Dragon Dance Mega Charizard X. Counter and Mirror Coat allow Wobbuffet to return damage back to a foe that hits it with a physical or special attack, respectively. Safeguard protects Wobbuffet and its teammates from status for a few turns, allowing teammates to come in safely on an Encored status move.

Set Details
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The investment in HP and Defense allows Wobbuffet to survive a Knock Off from Life Orb Bisharp while holding an item, which can be handy in a pinch. The rest of the EVs are put into Special Defense to allow Wobbuffet to handle take special attacks much easier. Sitrus Berry is preferred over Leftovers because Wobbuffet wants to have an instant form of recovery and because it gets worn down a lot. Also, using up an item allows Wobbuffet to take Knock Offs better. However, Leftovers can be used instead for gradual recovery.

Usage Tips
========
Wobbuffet is a team supporter primarily for offensive teams by trapping or KOing Pokemon that are causing problems for Wobbuffet's teammates. Wobbuffet is best brought in when a teammate has been KOed, or from a U-turn or Volt Switch. Wobbuffet should not be played too recklessly, as it gets worn down rather easily, but one must not be afraid to use it in fear of it getting worn down. Be smart with Encore due to its low PP, but again, do not be afraid to use it. Encore in general is meant to take advantage of the opponent; for example, Wobbuffet can be used as an anti-lead by locking the opponent into Stealth Rock for a teammate to take advantage of. Wobbuffet dislikes Knock Off users, but it can beat some of them one-on-one, such as Azumarill and Landorus-T.

Team Options
========
Wobbuffet provides valuable support for offensive teams and prefers offense these over balance balanced teams. For teammates, Wobbuffet greatly appreciates Healing Wish support because it gets worn down very easily, so Latias and Jirachi are good teammates. Wobbuffet's combination of Shadow Tag + Encore can benefit setup sweepers by giving them free turns to set up. Lucario and Mega Charizard X appreciate Wobbuffet's support and its ability to trap and KO Excadrill, which the two usually struggle with. Other setup sweepers, such as Dragonite and Diggersby, can make good teammates as well. Wobbuffet is troubled a lot by Bisharp, which can threaten to KO it after some prior damage with Knock Off or Pursuit; as such, a Fighting-type, such as Terrakion or Keldeo, make makes for a good teammate to handle Bisharp. Landorus pairs well with Destiny Bond Wobbuffet, which handles Latias and Chansey for Landorus.


Other Options
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Tickle can be used with a Pursuit trapper to remove the opponent's walls from the match, but this is gimmicky at best, and Wobbuffet has better things to do. Destiny Bond looks good on paper to score a free KO once Wobbuffet is at low health, but it really misses Safeguard, often lacks the Speed to pull it off, and does not have room for it.

Checks & Counters
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**Bisharp**: Bisharp is a huge pain in the neck for Wobbuffet, as it can KO Wobbuffet with Knock Off, (RC) or trap a weakened Wobbuffet with Pursuit. However, Bisharp should not be too reckless, as trying to set up on Wobbuffet or failing to KO it can backfire and be exploited.

**Taunt + Status**: Taunt and status debilitate Wobbuffet and can keep it from doing its job as efficiently. Wobbuffet can function when Taunted, but it needs more prediction in this case. Poison and burn wear down Wobbuffet, and other forms of status hinder it as well.

**VoltTurn + Counter / Mirror Coat immunities**: The easiest way to handle Wobbuffet is to U-turn or Volt Switch into a Ghost- or Dark-type, the former type being immune to Counter and the latter type being immune to Mirror Coat. This prevents Wobbuffet from doing its job, (RC) and minimizes the damage it inflicts upon the opponent's team.
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