"Worst Pokémon Ever"

[Rapti]

Besides, Beautifly is still incredibly ugly.

Lies :<


here's an example of how mechanical changes can vastly improve a pokemon; Wobbuffet is an excelent support pokemon to the point that has spent more time banned to Übers than in any other tier

from gen III onwards

because in gen II? boy did it suck Beedrill was a much more reliable pokemon than it, and the worst part? Wobbuffet still sucks, sure Shadow Tag is great but try using a Telepathy Wobbuffet and you'll understand how truly awful it still is

 

[mertyville]

I think this has been said already but what really suprises me that an entire evolutionary line in Burmy is so terrible. I mean, sure, it is just a gimmick but you are technically comparing 4 fully evolved Pokemon to almost anything in the roster and still managed to be useless in-game because of accessability, stats and move options and competitively because terrible stats and move options. Even the one with the best typing, the trash form, is barely viable in PU despite buffs to its Hidden ability and access to SR.

Can you imagine how bad the other forms and the male counterpart can be?

 

[BlizzardHero]

I think this has been said already but what really suprises me that an entire evolutionary line in Burmy is so terrible. I mean, sure, it is just a gimmick but you are technically comparing 4 fully evolved Pokemon to almost anything in the roster and still managed to be useless in-game because of accessability, stats and move options and competitively because terrible stats and move options. Even the one with the best typing, the trash form, is barely viable in PU despite buffs to its Hidden ability and access to SR.

Can you imagine how bad the other forms and the male counterpart can be?

252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Sawsbuck: 270-318 (174.1 - 205.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kricketune: 288-338 (189.4 - 222.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 44 HP / 0 SpD Gourgeist: 408-482 (144.6 - 170.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 288-338 (205.7 - 241.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Combusken: 168-200 (101.2 - 120.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 252 HP / 224+ SpD Eviolite Roselia: 98-116 (62.4 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Quilladin: 210-248 (125.7 - 148.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Hidden Power Ground vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Probopass: 132-156 (84 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Hidden Power Ground vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 278-328 (115.3 - 136%) -- guaranteed OHKO

And that's just some of the most common PU sets that Mothim can murder, didn't want to list the entirety of the PU Viability rankings. I use a Mothim+Kricketune Webs core for PU and it works pretty dang well. Sure, Mothim will never be in the top 1% in PU, but that doesn't justify it being "barely viable". Like I said prior, every Pokemon can be a titan, just need to know their strengths and weaknesses.

 

[Codraroll]

Like I said prior, every Pokemon can be a titan, just need to know their strengths and weaknesses pit them against equally bad Pokémon.

I know Mothim might tear up some stuff in PU, but... it's still PU. The tier created because there were so many Pokémon that couldn't even work in the NU tier, generally considered the bottom of the barrel as it were. As stated by mertyville, Burmy has four evolutions, and neither of them seem able to escape the dregs of competitive Pokémon tiering any time soon. Sure, they can pull their weight against equally disadvantaged opponents, but neither of them will ever be seriously considered for top tiers of neither in-game lists nor competitive for the foreseeable future.

 

[Chuckle-Shuckle]

My vote:

I really REALLY R E A L L Y hate pokemon that are just newer versions of older ones, and i'm definitely not a genwunner, seeing as how my favorite region is Hoenn, but i have 2 winners for first.
Litleo, and Pyroar
(i know hes pretty good but this is design alone)
GF wasn't satisfied with 5 fire foxes, 2 fire dogs, and even a crappy fire anteater. They needed MORE unoriginal real-life animals slightly twerked (made completely orange and freaking ear hair) to be fire type.
(NOTE: Am fine with growlithe and arcanine, as they actually had some tiger influence as seen in their designs and therefore don't suck)
So they thought, hey lets choose the ONE animal we've made in almost every generation and make a fire cat. NO WAIT 2 becuase why not??? We made a flower mermaid! And of course the guy with a gigantic mane of ORANGE hair just HAD to use one. However, this is really just about design for me.
Pyroar is Litleo with a larger body and bigger hair. This could actually be a REAL animal if they toned down the colours more.
Also, for some reason Pyroar and Solgaleo are incredibly similar. CONICIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

 

[BlizzardHero]

I know Mothim might tear up some stuff in PU, but... it's still PU. The tier created because there were so many Pokémon that couldn't even work in the NU tier, generally considered the bottom of the barrel as it were. As stated by mertyville, Burmy has four evolutions, and neither of them seem able to escape the dregs of competitive Pokémon tiering any time soon. Sure, they can pull their weight against equally disadvantaged opponents, but neither of them will ever be seriously considered for top tiers of neither in-game lists nor competitive for the foreseeable future.

Okay then.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Bulu: 338-398 (120.2 - 141.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Volcarona: 308-366 (99 - 117.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 354-416 (109.5 - 128.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Pinsir-Mega: 354-416 (130.6 - 153.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Tangrowth: 282-332 (69.8 - 82.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Medicham-Mega: 372-438 (142.5 - 167.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Alakazam-Mega: 372-440 (148.2 - 175.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 248 HP / 216+ SpD Amoonguss: 278-330 (64.5 - 76.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 56 HP / 0 SpD Serperior: 404-476 (132.4 - 156%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Reuniclus: 444-524 (104.7 - 123.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 12 HP / 0 SpD Hawlucha: 470-554 (156.6 - 184.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO (;-; Blizzard cries inside, but as long as you don't switch into it, and go double sub, Hawlucha will still be able to 0HKO with Acro. #TeamLucha)
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 240 HP / 140 SpD Mew: 338-398 (84.2 - 99.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Greninja-Ash: 512-606 (179.6 - 212.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 112 HP / 0 SpD Heracross-Mega: 616-732 (187.2 - 222.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Some OU threats Mothim can chew through. I didn't include all standard sets, and I've also included sets that Mothim needs speed support (tailwind or webs, ideally webs) to 0HKO, but you'll have to suss out which those are.

Still somewhat niche, but it's not something to laugh at. See, Smogon tiers are based upon apparent stats and usage, and thus tiers are entirely arbitrary. Most people won't even bother thinking outside of the box when it comes to Pokemon. If others think it's good, it's good. If others thing its bad, it's bad. Thus, some Pokemon don't get to shine as often, beacuse people don't bother working with them. Look at how Sejun Park's Pachirisu stole Worlds, no one expected such a bad Pokemon (and a Pika clone to boot) to do so well. But beacuse Park is not an idiot, and people didn't have anything that could respond well to it, he won.

"Bad" Pokemon are only really bad beacuse people like to wear blinders and only focus on Pokemon that everyone else think are "good".

 

[Ununhexium]

Okay then.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Bulu: 338-398 (120.2 - 141.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Volcarona: 308-366 (99 - 117.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 354-416 (109.5 - 128.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Pinsir-Mega: 354-416 (130.6 - 153.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Tangrowth: 282-332 (69.8 - 82.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Medicham-Mega: 372-438 (142.5 - 167.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Alakazam-Mega: 372-440 (148.2 - 175.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 248 HP / 216+ SpD Amoonguss: 278-330 (64.5 - 76.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 56 HP / 0 SpD Serperior: 404-476 (132.4 - 156%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Reuniclus: 444-524 (104.7 - 123.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 12 HP / 0 SpD Hawlucha: 470-554 (156.6 - 184.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO (;-; Blizzard cries inside, but as long as you don't switch into it, and go double sub, Hawlucha will still be able to 0HKO with Acro. #TeamLucha)
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 240 HP / 140 SpD Mew: 338-398 (84.2 - 99.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Greninja-Ash: 512-606 (179.6 - 212.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 112 HP / 0 SpD Heracross-Mega: 616-732 (187.2 - 222.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Some OU threats Mothim can chew through. I didn't include all standard sets, and I've also included sets that Mothim needs speed support (tailwind or webs, ideally webs) to 0HKO, but you'll have to suss out which those are.

Still somewhat niche, but it's not something to laugh at. See, Smogon tiers are based upon apparent stats and usage, and thus tiers are entirely arbitrary. Most people won't even bother thinking outside of the box when it comes to Pokemon. If others think it's good, it's good. If others thing its bad, it's bad. Thus, some Pokemon don't get to shine as often, beacuse people don't bother working with them. Look at how Sejun Park's Pachirisu stole Worlds, no one expected such a bad Pokemon (and a Pika clone to boot) to do so well. But beacuse Park is not an idiot, and people didn't have anything that could respond well to it, he won.

"Bad" Pokemon are only really bad beacuse people like to wear blinders and only focus on Pokemon that everyone else think are "good".

Yeah but nobody is bringing any of those Pokémon in on Mothim if it has STAB type advantage

And if you're positive nature STAB Specs super effective you really should be doing more damage to some of those pokemon

 

[Rapti]

Quote the Karen

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you keep shinning on you crazy diamond

emphasis on crazy

I mean it's a nice sentiment but it's just not true, I wish it was, in fact because we have 802 pokemon with more on the way I wish there where other thing a pokemon could be good at besides battling (Pokeathlons where in like one game) because having all of them be viable is just not feasible
if there where other ways in wich you could compete with your pokemon then even if it wasn't good in any battle format it would be good is some form of gameplay

unfortunatly that not the case, hopefuly one day it will be but until then some pokemon truly are The Worst

 

[Sultan]

Okay then.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Bulu: 338-398 (120.2 - 141.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Volcarona: 308-366 (99 - 117.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 354-416 (109.5 - 128.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Pinsir-Mega: 354-416 (130.6 - 153.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Tangrowth: 282-332 (69.8 - 82.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Medicham-Mega: 372-438 (142.5 - 167.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Alakazam-Mega: 372-440 (148.2 - 175.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 248 HP / 216+ SpD Amoonguss: 278-330 (64.5 - 76.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 56 HP / 0 SpD Serperior: 404-476 (132.4 - 156%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Reuniclus: 444-524 (104.7 - 123.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 12 HP / 0 SpD Hawlucha: 470-554 (156.6 - 184.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO (;-; Blizzard cries inside, but as long as you don't switch into it, and go double sub, Hawlucha will still be able to 0HKO with Acro. #TeamLucha)
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 240 HP / 140 SpD Mew: 338-398 (84.2 - 99.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Greninja-Ash: 512-606 (179.6 - 212.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Air Slash vs. 112 HP / 0 SpD Heracross-Mega: 616-732 (187.2 - 222.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Some OU threats Mothim can chew through. I didn't include all standard sets, and I've also included sets that Mothim needs speed support (tailwind or webs, ideally webs) to 0HKO, but you'll have to suss out which those are.

Still somewhat niche, but it's not something to laugh at. See, Smogon tiers are based upon apparent stats and usage, and thus tiers are entirely arbitrary. Most people won't even bother thinking outside of the box when it comes to Pokemon. If others think it's good, it's good. If others thing its bad, it's bad. Thus, some Pokemon don't get to shine as often, beacuse people don't bother working with them. Look at how Sejun Park's Pachirisu stole Worlds, no one expected such a bad Pokemon (and a Pika clone to boot) to do so well. But beacuse Park is not an idiot, and people didn't have anything that could respond well to it, he won.

"Bad" Pokemon are only really bad beacuse people like to wear blinders and only focus on Pokemon that everyone else think are "good".

Mothim has no way to break through the bulky Steels that are freaking everywhere this gen. You'd have to switch it out a lot if you'd use a Specs set, which can't be good for a Pokémon with a 4x weakness to Stealth Rock. Besides, what's the point when Mega Pinsir has the same STAB combo, deals more damage, and at least has a decent way to damage Steels with Earthquake.

 

[cityscapes]

Mothim has no way to break through the bulky Steels that are freaking everywhere this gen. You'd have to switch it out a lot if you'd use a Specs set, which can't be good for a Pokémon with a 4x weakness to Stealth Rock. Besides, what's the point when Mega Pinsir has the same STAB combo, deals more damage, and at least has a decent way to damage Steels with Earthquake.

mothim gets tinted lens my man

 

[Sultan]

mothim gets tinted lens my man

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tinted Lens Mothim Air Slash vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Celesteela: 114-136 (28.6 - 34.1%) -- 99.4% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tinted Lens Mothim Air Slash vs. 232 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 152-180 (39.8 - 47.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 148-175 (42 - 49.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tinted Lens Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 64 SpD Toxapex: 136-162 (44.7 - 53.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja-Ash Water Shuriken (20 BP) (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mothim: 324-381 (115.3 - 135.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Delibird Icy Wind vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Mothim: 320-377 (113.8 - 134.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO (Delibird outspeeds it, too!)


Besides, with a speed of 231 (if you use a +SpA nature), it's not gonna outspeed much.

 

[BlizzardHero]

Mothim has no way to break through the bulky Steels that are freaking everywhere this gen. You'd have to switch it out a lot if you'd use a Specs set, which can't be good for a Pokémon with a 4x weakness to Stealth Rock. Besides, what's the point when Mega Pinsir has the same STAB combo, deals more damage, and at least has a decent way to damage Steels with Earthquake.

You aren't going outspeed, to be fair nothing outspeeds Dugtrio, but if you anticipate,
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tinted Lens Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Dugtrio-Alola: 258-306 (122.2 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
And then there's the obligatory Heatran
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Hidden Power Ground vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Heatran: 328-388 (101.5 - 120.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
I heard people liked Magnezone this gen
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Hidden Power Ground vs. 132 HP / 0 SpD Magnezone: 380-448 (121 - 142.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

You're right, Mothim has trouble with Steel types. But it still 2HKO's pretty much all of them, like Mega Scizor, Mega Mawile, etc.

You can also run Mothim with a Life Orb (Most atks do well over 100% dmg when it 0HKO's), and largely get the same result, with some exceptions like Combusken. It's not recommended, but if you cant bring in counters or you can't anticipate correctly, then it's not completely a bad option. You'll get more walled on a few more options as well.

Quote the Karen
you keep shinning on you crazy diamond

emphasis on crazy

I mean it's a nice sentiment but it's just not true, I wish it was it was, in fact because we have 802 pokemon with more on the way I wish there where other thing a pokemon could be good at besides battling (Pokeathlons where in like one game) because having all of them be viable is just not feasible
if there where other ways in wich you could compete with your pokemon then even if it wasn't good in any battle format it would be good is some form of gameplay

unfortunatly that not the case, hopefuly one day it will be but until then some pkemon truly are The Worst

Of course, some Pokemon are subjectively far worse than others. If you try to rank things, there always has to be a bottom (unless you're ranking a list of 1 or 0?). However, I strongly reject the idea that just beacuse Smogon decided to place a Pokemon in a lower tier, that that Pokemon is suddenly completely unviable. There will always be checks and counters for every Pokemon, and some of those in the bottom of PU can work to take on the top. I agree that you should probably never bring Mothim into OU and expect to win, however just beacuse it's not top % doesn't mean it can't work well under the right circumstances.

 

[Sultan]

You aren't going outspeed, to be fair nothing outspeeds Dugtrio, but if you anticipate,
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tinted Lens Mothim Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Dugtrio-Alola: 258-306 (122.2 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO
And then there's the obligatory Heatran
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Hidden Power Ground vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Heatran: 328-388 (101.5 - 120.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
I heard people liked Magnezone this gen
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mothim Hidden Power Ground vs. 132 HP / 0 SpD Magnezone: 380-448 (121 - 142.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

You're right, Mothim has trouble with Steel types. But it still 2HKO's pretty much all of them, like Mega Scizor, Mega Mawile, etc.

You can also run Mothim with a Life Orb (Most atks do well over 100% dmg when it 0HKO's), and largely get the same result, with some exceptions like Combusken. It's not recommended, but if you cant bring in counters or you can't anticipate correctly, then it's not completely a bad option. You'll get more walled on a few more options as well.

Of course, some Pokemon are subjectively far worse than others. If you try to rank things, there always has to be a bottom (unless you're ranking a list of 1 or 0?). However, I strongly reject the idea that just beacuse Smogon decided to place a Pokemon in a lower tier, that that Pokemon is suddenly completely unviable. There will always be checks and counters for every Pokemon, and some of those in the bottom of PU can work to take on the top. I agree that you should probably never bring Mothim into OU and expect to win, however just beacuse it's not top % doesn't mean it can't work well under the right circumstances.

You seem to focus on Mothim's power, while ignoring everything else that makes Mothim an awful Pokémon (at least above PU). Terrible typing, bad speed, no bulk, and it's too much of a momentum drain. You can say all you want, but until you show me replays of Mothim doing well in OU (or even UU) then I'll believe you. Also, who the hell uses Dugtrio-Alola (in OU)?

 

[cityscapes]

You seem to focus on Mothim's power, while ignoring everything else that makes Mothim an awful Pokémon (at least above PU). Terrible typing, bad speed, no bulk, and it's too much of a momentum drain. You can say all you want, but until you show me replays of Mothim doing well in OU (or even UU) then I'll believe you. Also, who the hell uses Dugtrio-Alola (in OU)?

man chill. he's not trying to nominate mothim for a rank in the ou vr or anything. he's just trying to prove that it's not completely worthless (which it isn't). anyone else want to use mothim in trick room now

also mothim has a pretty cool design too like look at this

those wings tho

 

[Kurona]

Hey so quick question why are we having a quote-on-quote discussion on Mothim's competitive worth??

 

[Siggu]

also mothim has a pretty cool design too like look at this

those wings tho

Yeah, Mothim has a nice design, but that's it.

I tried to use one in Platinum and ended up replacing it after reaching the Pokemon League.

With Beautifly of all things, and it did better. (Though it's in-game, so it's not exactly a good metric)

 

[Xaldin]

I hate Dunsparce... Is there some useful task for him?

 

[BlizzardHero]

I hate Dunsparce... Is there some useful task for him?

Dunsparce is somewhat like a Physical Togekiss. Serene Grace + Glare + Tons of Flinch Moves. Glare is objectively better than Togekiss's Thunder Wave (Glare can't be Volt Absorbed or blocked by ground types, and has 100% accuracy), and Dunsparce has more flinch move variety (Headbutt, Rock Slide, Dragon Rush-don't bother-, Bite, and Zen Headbutt) than Togekiss (only gets Air Slash and Extrasensory) so there aren't many things that resists his flinch. Both get access to active recovery in Roost and Set Up in Nasty Plot or Coil, however only Dunsparce can set up Stealth Rocks and only Togekiss can use Heal Bell.

Dunsparce has a worse stat distribution/total than Togekiss and has a situationally worse typing. It's also substantially slower, so faster targets even under paralysis may still outspeed. Thus, Dunsparce is not as good. However, if he sinks his teeth into and you're slower, it's still going to really stink.

 

[SirSalty]

Personally, I really, truly hate the Tepig line with a passion. It's bland, has no right to exist, and brings down an otherwise outstanding trio of starters, the likes of which were cleverly designed, had unique niches, and actual personality. If I might list the problems I have with this disgrace of a starter:

1. Its typing. Yes, I know it's an overused argument, but honestly, what was Game Freak thinking, putting three Fire/Fighting starters in a row? Furthermore, neither Serperior or Samurott had dual typing, so why should Emboar prove to be the exception, only to have the same boring type we've seen done to death? Not to mention that with its typing, it's forced to compete with Infernape and Blaziken, two unique, interesting starters in both design and stats, and quite frankly, it doesn't hold up.

2. Its role in battling. To be frank, Emboar has one job, to click Flare Blitz/Superpower until it/the opponent dies, and it can't even do that well enough to justify its use in-game. Once you reach the desert in BW, you'll be tripping over Darumaka, which evolve into a stronger, faster Emboar. The only even remotely valid reasons to use Emboar over Darmanitan are STAB Superpower, which matters very little when you're comparing 123 Base Attack to 140, and Wild Charge coverage, for all the two water types bulky enough to withstand even a resisted hit from the monster that is Darmanitan.

3. Its design. Lets compare, if you will, the evolutionary stages of Tepig with its predecessors, and see if we can figure out where it goes wrong. In its first stage, Tepig is a pig. It has a ball on its tail (much like Spoink, now that I think about it) but that's about it. Similarly, Chimchar is a monkey that discovered matches a bit too soon, and Torchic is a chick that went to a Jamiroquai concert. Nothing much out of the ordinary. In their second stages, Monferno gets a bit baggier, gets some stripe tattoos, and really starts to get behind the "my behind is a fire hazard to both myself and my immediate surroundings" movement. Combusken grows an...oddly proportioned body, some sick claws, and learns the art of Tae Kwon Do. Pignite puts on weight...a lot of it, and wears a mankini. An unusual choice, admittedly, but certainly one that can be fixed in its final evolution, right? Well, for final evolutions, Infernape goes from "that one kid in your neighborhood who tips over the trash bins when he thinks no one is looking" to "gritty Planet of the Apes reboot", and I'm saying that knowing that there have already been a number of gritty Planet of the Apes reboots. After years of waving an open flame around, Infernape's head has flat-out burst into flame, and he doesn't even care. Infernape just wants to punch things with his various golden accessories, and who are we to stand in his way? All this, and he still has the guts to wear white after Labor Day. Blaziken undergoes a similar transformation, becoming the Pokemon equivalent of a '90s cartoon action hero. His talons move up to his arms...somehow, and he grows out his hair to resemble his favorite Gundam. He also puts on some pretty neat looking jeans, because what would a cartoon action hero be without his signature sexy pants? And now to Emboar, who went from fat pig in a mankini, to fatter pig wearing nothing at all except an oversized belt thing and some gloves. His neck is on fire, probably because his muscles have combusted after lugging around all that weight, and his round tail has turned into a spiky tail. All this, and he's still smiling, desperately trying to not let his fragile facade drop for a second. Emboar knows what a failure it is, and so do you.
Ultimately, the Tepig line seems unfinished. It's a shame, because I feel like they really could have done something unique with a burly, wrestling mammal. And they did, in Gen VII. Unfortunately, I'm not a cat person.

 

[Chanderule]

I love Tepig, it was my first starter and his design isnt as bad imo

 

[HDF0]

I am a random person, but I just wanna say Lickilicky looks really fat and like, its tongue is now so short (when compared to its body).

Also, I just don't know why, but Palkia just looks weird to me.

 

[earl]

I am a random person, but I just wanna say Lickilicky looks really fat and like, its tongue is now so short (when compared to its body).

Also, I just don't know why, but Palkia just looks weird to me.

While I will concede that lickilicky does look pretty dumb, it is my favorite Pokémon (lol) and I must defend it.
While it's tongue seems smaller, it is about the same size as lickitung's.
Fatness is a subjective criticism, and seeing as how lickitung was already a "bulky pink blob" type Pokémon stat wise, it makes sense that it's evolution only built on that. I find his chub to be endearing.

 

[Ununhexium]

While I will concede that lickilicky does look pretty dumb, it is my favorite Pokémon (lol) and I must defend it.
While it's tongue seems smaller, it is about the same size as lickitung's.
Fatness is a subjective criticism, and seeing as how lickitung was already a "bulky pink blob" type Pokémon stat wise, it makes sense that it's evolution only built on that. I find his chub to be endearing.

I think the issue with Lickilicky is that the tongue is less of a focal point on it. Lickitung's tongue is very prominent and you think that an evolution of it (especially one named LICKiLICKy) would emphasize that even more but instead it just become a chubster with a tongue that's a bit too big like Greninja has a longer tongue by comparison

 

[HDF0]

Watchog eyes.

Other than that, Buzzwole does not wprk for me.

 

[Vibuma]

I hate Stantler,i dont know why.
maybe its because its simple desing,maybe its because it looks grumpy,maybe its because it has stomp and hypnosis at level 15 (you can find it at route 37 at that level,and it's really annoying)
I dont know,the only thing that i know is that i hate it,a lot,in fact it's the only pokemon that i hate.
(Sorry 4 the bad english just in case)