I completly agree w/ the statement above. I am not racist, However I do dislike certain countries/peoples (The French ¬.¬). However I would love to date a french woman.
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I completly agree w/ the statement above. I am not racist, However I do dislike certain countries/peoples (The French ¬.¬). However I would love to date a french woman.
We can possibly explain this phenomenon with kin altruism theory. This is entirely speculation. I have no evidence to support it.
Natural selection acts on genes, and it favours the genes that replicate the best. In sexual reproduction, the offspring individual has an approximately 50% chance of having the mother's copy of a given chromosome and a 50% chance of having the father's (this is a simplification, but it does not matter). So, if your mate shares lots of genes with you then your child has a higher chance of having your genes. Suppose (X*100)% of your genes are also found in your mate (we'll call this the relatedness coefficient), and suppose that the gene found at this locus in the child will be directly from either parent. Then the chance that a randomly chosen one of your genes is found in the child is 0.5 * (1 + X). We'll call this the propagation chance, P (I just made this term up).
In the extreme case, if you are mating with a clone of yourself then 100% of your genes are found in your mate, which leads to P = 0.5 * (1 + 1) = 100%. That is, assuming our assumptions above, your offspring will also be a clone. Suppose you are only 60% related. Then we have P = 0.5 * (1 + 0.6) = 80%.
If P is too large then the bacteria that have become accustomed to living in you can jump to your offspring (if they are transmittable in some way, at least), so there is a maximum value of P that is optimal: Pmax < 100%.
So, natural selection might have favoured humans who experienced the sensation of sexual attraction to be directed towards prospective mates such that a P value with that mate is as close to Pmax as possible. This rules out your immediate family.
How might you tell the value of P when mating with somebody just by looking at them? Physical characteristics. So, for example, somebody with the same skin colour as you might be assumed to be more related to you than somebody with a different skin colour. I am not saying humans would calculate this consciousnessly: only that natural selection would have favoured humans who took this into consideration when mating.
I just think this is a fairly interesting model (it has probably been formulated before, though I have not seen it). Note that this is merely an explanation of why for some people, same skin colour people appear attractive. It is not an ethical model and does not say that it is right or wrong to find differently coloured people unattractive.
Natural selection acts on genes, and it favours the genes that replicate the best. In sexual reproduction, the offspring individual has an approximately 50% chance of having the mother's copy of a given chromosome and a 50% chance of having the father's (this is a simplification, but it does not matter). So, if your mate shares lots of genes with you then your child has a higher chance of having your genes. Suppose (X*100)% of your genes are also found in your mate (we'll call this the relatedness coefficient), and suppose that the gene found at this locus in the child will be directly from either parent. Then the chance that a randomly chosen one of your genes is found in the child is 0.5 * (1 + X). We'll call this the propagation chance, P (I just made this term up).
In the extreme case, if you are mating with a clone of yourself then 100% of your genes are found in your mate, which leads to P = 0.5 * (1 + 1) = 100%. That is, assuming our assumptions above, your offspring will also be a clone. Suppose you are only 60% related. Then we have P = 0.5 * (1 + 0.6) = 80%.
If P is too large then the bacteria that have become accustomed to living in you can jump to your offspring (if they are transmittable in some way, at least), so there is a maximum value of P that is optimal: Pmax < 100%.
So, natural selection might have favoured humans who experienced the sensation of sexual attraction to be directed towards prospective mates such that a P value with that mate is as close to Pmax as possible. This rules out your immediate family.
How might you tell the value of P when mating with somebody just by looking at them? Physical characteristics. So, for example, somebody with the same skin colour as you might be assumed to be more related to you than somebody with a different skin colour. I am not saying humans would calculate this consciousnessly: only that natural selection would have favoured humans who took this into consideration when mating.
I just think this is a fairly interesting model (it has probably been formulated before, though I have not seen it). Note that this is merely an explanation of why for some people, same skin colour people appear attractive. It is not an ethical model and does not say that it is right or wrong to find differently coloured people unattractive.
What happens to people who do not belong to one race/nationality?
What happens if someone does not date black women, but is very attracted to white women with brown hairblue eyes?
What if there was a woman who was back and white, and had the features that this person is attracted to?
Most people do not belong to one race, like me. I am black, but my mom's side is mixed with Native American, West Indian, and Caucasian. This resulted in me being several shades lighter than my other "black" peers.
And when someone says 'black" what do they mean? Jamacian? Hatian? African-American?, or pure African?
There are SO many types of "blacks".
What happens if someone does not date black women, but is very attracted to white women with brown hairblue eyes?
What if there was a woman who was back and white, and had the features that this person is attracted to?
Most people do not belong to one race, like me. I am black, but my mom's side is mixed with Native American, West Indian, and Caucasian. This resulted in me being several shades lighter than my other "black" peers.
And when someone says 'black" what do they mean? Jamacian? Hatian? African-American?, or pure African?
There are SO many types of "blacks".
I have nothing against the idea of dating outside my race.
However, as far as physical attraction goes, I've only been attracted to whites that I've known personally and only a few of other races in magazines, movies, etc. However, I think I'd chalk this up to the fact that the people I hang out with are white.
However, as far as physical attraction goes, I've only been attracted to whites that I've known personally and only a few of other races in magazines, movies, etc. However, I think I'd chalk this up to the fact that the people I hang out with are white.
And why?.
No particular reason...guess just because that's what the people around me do.
I've dated outside of my race before and it was fine. I don't give a damn if you're black, white, purple, blue, whatever. If you're a nice person I'll usually hang out with you. That's how it should be too. Oh, and a majority of my friends are Asian, me being white. We've gotten past the racial boundary to the point where we can call each other slurs and laugh it off. Good times.
Get yourself a half Asian.
Yeah, I would consider it. I don't know if this happens to anyone else, but I find that people I like (for who they are) start to seem more physically attractive as I get to know them, so even if I found a girl less sexually appealing because of her race, it would go away if she were dateworthy.
I think the biggest issue you get with dating people of a different race is cultural differences, and obviously that's possible within the same race as well (even, for example, fairly similar groups like the French and the English. The French side of the family will want to eat mostly good food with the occasional snail or frog, while the English side will insist on eating only poop.) Specifically, I'm recalling a conversation I had with an Indian girl whose parents really wanted her to be with a guy who spoke the same dialect and practiced the same religion as she did, so that they would be passed on to her kids. Obviously that's not a big deal if the relationship never gets serious, but I'd be unhappy if my parents disapproved of my choice because she was spoke the wrong tongue. I don't think the possibility of that would deter me from dating somebody though.
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I think the biggest issue you get with dating people of a different race is cultural differences, and obviously that's possible within the same race as well (even, for example, fairly similar groups like the French and the English. The French side of the family will want to eat mostly good food with the occasional snail or frog, while the English side will insist on eating only poop.) Specifically, I'm recalling a conversation I had with an Indian girl whose parents really wanted her to be with a guy who spoke the same dialect and practiced the same religion as she did, so that they would be passed on to her kids. Obviously that's not a big deal if the relationship never gets serious, but I'd be unhappy if my parents disapproved of my choice because she was spoke the wrong tongue. I don't think the possibility of that would deter me from dating somebody though.
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i know what you mean. i was dating a 2nd generation japanese girl and her dad was pretty crazy. he learned i was a 2nd degree black belt and wanted to see how americanized karate stood up against a traditional japanese style (i never told him my sensei trained in japan for 25 years and that i was trained in one of the four original styles which included the iron body training 
). long story short he made me spar with his son who was a 1st degree in Goju Ryu (i study shotokan) and we both ended up with broken noses and bruised ego's. i am still good friends with that family though....
but back on topic. i would never limit myself to dating only inside my race. the first thing i look for in a girl is personality and demeanor. i can't stand a girl who can't carry on an intelligent conversation and is an introvert. personally i don't typically find African Americans or Hispanics attractive (latino girls are the shit). i lean more towards the European/ Caucasian side of the spectrum, especially girls from southern europe like italy or greece. i also hate how closed minded most american girls are about their sexuality. for some reason its taboo in america to have a healthy sexual appetite...
). long story short he made me spar with his son who was a 1st degree in Goju Ryu (i study shotokan) and we both ended up with broken noses and bruised ego's. i am still good friends with that family though....but back on topic. i would never limit myself to dating only inside my race. the first thing i look for in a girl is personality and demeanor. i can't stand a girl who can't carry on an intelligent conversation and is an introvert. personally i don't typically find African Americans or Hispanics attractive (latino girls are the shit). i lean more towards the European/ Caucasian side of the spectrum, especially girls from southern europe like italy or greece. i also hate how closed minded most american girls are about their sexuality. for some reason its taboo in america to have a healthy sexual appetite...
Well if I ever have kids they gotta be WHITE.
Makes two of us.
I honestly had NO CLUE what he meant. Can someone explain his sarcasm or lack of to me please?
I'm also very confused by Kikuichimonji's post. I think he is using the example of sexism to bring irony to the main comment posted here;
"I'm not racist, I'm just not attracted to black people"
Maybe...
Though that's a very flawed argument, as sexism usually refers to favouring males in the workplace and disregarding women.
"I'm not racist, I'm just not attracted to black people"
Maybe...
Though that's a very flawed argument, as sexism usually refers to favouring males in the workplace and disregarding women.
@ Kiku's post:
Yeah, I use this example when people bring this topic up as well. I do have a question though:
If there's a black chick who you are attracted to, on like physical, emotional, intellectual, etc. levels. I won't try to qualify it, but we'll say for the moment that you are legitimately attracted to this chick, however, you decide you don't want to date her for the sole reason of her skin colour. Does this make you racist? My answer, I find, would lean towards "yes", although I'm not completely sure. If the sole basis of judgment is skin colour, then it is racism. This is not the same as just not finding yourself attracted to black chicks.
If there's a guy who you are attracted to, on like physical, emotional, intellectual, etc. levels. I won't try to qualify it, but we'll say for the moment that you are legitimately attracted to this guy, however, you decide you don't want to date him for the sole reason of his gender. Does this make you sexist?
Yeah, I use this example when people bring this topic up as well. I do have a question though:
If there's a black chick who you are attracted to, on like physical, emotional, intellectual, etc. levels. I won't try to qualify it, but we'll say for the moment that you are legitimately attracted to this chick, however, you decide you don't want to date her for the sole reason of her skin colour. Does this make you racist? My answer, I find, would lean towards "yes", although I'm not completely sure. If the sole basis of judgment is skin colour, then it is racism. This is not the same as just not finding yourself attracted to black chicks.
If there's a guy who you are attracted to, on like physical, emotional, intellectual, etc. levels. I won't try to qualify it, but we'll say for the moment that you are legitimately attracted to this guy, however, you decide you don't want to date him for the sole reason of his gender. Does this make you sexist?
No, since your decision is based on skin colour, rather than sex.