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XY OU Analysis Reservation Index - READ CAREFULLY (MAKING A NEW THREAD)

for those who can not contain their want to write analyses, there will be a lot that need updating or creation in the near future when the plethora of new megas from ORAS are released, as well as mega latis, and diancie who are seemingly unreliated.

So have some patience, there will be much opportunity soon.
 
hey heracross needs an update, basically showing how good it is in the meta (it's better now), sd slashed alone and eq nowhere. that's up to be reserved.
 
Okay, so I know I made a big deal about doing that Terrakion update, but I've got a lot of other stuff on my plate right now as it is. I'm just going to drop it let someone else do that instead, and I'll just add any input I can along the way. Just make sure that whoever gets it knows what they're talking about, because Terrakion is still sort of my baby and I still want its update to be of good quality. ^_^
 
hey, what do you guys think of a subsplit lo set for gengar? i've actually found it rather cool as of late. i like the power of lo on gengar, but i never liked the inability of lo sets to break stall as well and how easily they are worn down. subsplit keeps gar healthy and lets it still easily screw with the blobs, while hitting so much harder because it lets gar run a life orb, like at least it can 2hko keldeo and charizard x with a life orb lol. lo gar is reaaaaally hard to switch into in general, as ghost has such good coverage, espec combined with fighting and all that, almost nothing likes to switch in. also the ability to directly kill bisharp and ttar (you run focus blast on this set) is heavily appreciated. should get a set imo.

also, trc bugged me to post, he's doing zong and rachi.
 
I can do SubSplit if you want me to, I have played with it and against it.
EDIT: Have to drop gengar, school's just around the corner and I won't be able to dedicate enough time to do the analysis
 
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went through various mons and caught some stuff

alakazam needs an update, especially for the mega set, which is undersold, and moreover has the wrong moveset (shadow ball has to be mandatory, sub and encore in the last slot, hp fire e.e). that's up for reservation.

need clefable rocks set redone to be mixed def (252/152/104+ or 252/160/96+, whatever) for greninja + some other stuff like thundurus and fire blast > flamethrower.

need sets updated for megachomp...i think sub is better on the mixed set and evs of 16 atk / 240 spatk / 252 spe naughty (hits first atk jump point, why would you run 4 when you are so close to an extra point). sub makes it much better vs offense, as you can circumvent suckers and on a forced switch, you force something break your sub and thus pretty much guarantee a kill. sd is also a pretty cool set, it has literally no defensive counters at including breaking right through stupid spdef gliscors, and is generally a very very good breaker to obliterate defensive cores/weaken the opposing team for other mons to sleep. basically just need an analysis to do the sd set + couple updates to the mega set.

also need a subcm keldeo set. imo, it's the best version of the cm set. cm 3 atks can break venu, but ultimately is worse vs teams without venu. i've always liked sub cause it lets you avoid revenge kills and set up impenetrable to status, which is very useful vs things like alomomola, slowbro without a psychic move, crocune, and really anything else that keldeo can be annoyed by with a status. a versatile and useful move that i think is better than just running hp flying :/ up for reservation.

latios is in sore need of an update. the sets are both pretty outdated. scarf doesn't even have trick, one of the main allures of the set, listed as mandatory, and hp fire/surf which are definitely better than eq and hp fighting are not slashed on the set while those are. up for reservation.

latias also needs an update. the set has no investment in bulk, when it should at least have 72, a lo number. you want the investment to capitalize on the increased bulk which latias has. furthermore healing wish is listed as mandatory, when it's really only a move for specific teams whereas roost is solid to consistently handle various threats you want latias to handle. up for reservation.

needs input i think magnezone could use some more sets... specs definitely isn't the only viable set. scarf is a great birds check and decent revenge killer (not revenge killer in the traditional sense of revenge killing sweepers but generally faster pokemon is what i mean) in general, plus having access to volt switch which allows it to pivot around. could also throw in a balloon mrise set invented by stathakis which is p damn cool to trap and beat exca, though that can go in oo idc.

pinsir ought to be redone...checks/counters changed decently with cc > eq and the analysis as a whole focuses on that when talking about things that beat it, support it needs, etc. revamp up for reservation.

the torn-t life orb set (just that set) needs an update. air slash is ehh, it's for rain. set should be hurricane / superpower / u-turn / taunt or knock off. set revamp up for reservation.
 
I can do Clefable
Ninja'd
I can do Garchomp

EDIT: Sorry about this, but I'd rather take Magnezone, it's literally on more than half of my team.

Garchomp is free.
 
Jukain said:
went through various mons and caught some stuff

alakazam needs an update, especially for the mega set, which is undersold, and moreover has the wrong moveset (shadow ball has to be mandatory, sub and encore in the last slot, hp fire e.e). that's up for reservation.

need clefable rocks set redone to be mixed def (252/152/104+ or 252/160/96+, whatever) for greninja + some other stuff like thundurus and fire blast > flamethrower.

need sets updated for megachomp...i think sub is better on the mixed set and evs of 16 atk / 240 spatk / 252 spe naughty (hits first atk jump point, why would you run 4 when you are so close to an extra point). sub makes it much better vs offense, as you can circumvent suckers and on a forced switch, you force something break your sub and thus pretty much guarantee a kill. sd is also a pretty cool set, it has literally no defensive counters at including breaking right through stupid spdef gliscors, and is generally a very very good breaker to obliterate defensive cores/weaken the opposing team for other mons to sleep. basically just need an analysis to do the sd set + couple updates to the mega set.

also need a subcm keldeo set. imo, it's the best version of the cm set. cm 3 atks can break venu, but ultimately is worse vs teams without venu. i've always liked sub cause it lets you avoid revenge kills and set up impenetrable to status, which is very useful vs things like alomomola, slowbro without a psychic move, crocune, and really anything else that keldeo can be annoyed by with a status. a versatile and useful move that i think is better than just running hp flying :/ up for reservation.

latios is in sore need of an update. the sets are both pretty outdated. scarf doesn't even have trick, one of the main allures of the set, listed as mandatory, and hp fire/surf which are definitely better than eq and hp fighting are not slashed on the set while those are. up for reservation.

latias also needs an update. the set has no investment in bulk, when it should at least have 72, a lo number. you want the investment to capitalize on the increased bulk which latias has. furthermore healing wish is listed as mandatory, when it's really only a move for specific teams whereas roost is solid to consistently handle various threats you want latias to handle. up for reservation.

needs input i think magnezone could use some more sets... specs definitely isn't the only viable set. scarf is a great birds check and decent revenge killer (not revenge killer in the traditional sense of revenge killing sweepers but generally faster pokemon is what i mean) in general, plus having access to volt switch which allows it to pivot around. could also throw in a balloon mrise set invented by stathakis which is p damn cool to trap and beat exca, though that can go in oo idc.

pinsir ought to be redone...checks/counters changed decently with cc > eq and the analysis as a whole focuses on that when talking about things that beat it, support it needs, etc. revamp up for reservation.

the torn-t life orb set (just that set) needs an update. air slash is ehh, it's for rain. set should be hurricane / superpower / u-turn / taunt or knock off. set revamp up for reservation.
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I'm not interesting in doing it, but I believe you also said that Hawlucha should get a complete revamp. Is this still the case?

Anyway I agree with all of your things you deem as definite, especially Latias. I've always thought Roost > Healing Wish on most of my teams anyway.

As for the stuff you need input on, I agree entirely with Magnezone. Scarf is relatively weak, but is still nice as a check to bird spam and still beats Ferro/Skarm/Scizor. Stathakis' set is obviously more niche, but I think it could get a set. You need to play carefully w/ it, but when used right, it seems like it could be amazing.

EDIT: Two other things. One, just reminding you to put Psycho Cut in Bisharp's OO. Second, what do you think about Protect in Zam's OO or maybe even a slash? I've used it to beat Greninja, who Zam otherwise needs to already be mega'd to beat. Maybe Zam is just meant to be lead with, I'm not sure, but I tend to bring him out later in battle, and sometimes it's necessary for him, unmega'd, to go 1v1 against Greninja, and he can only come out on top if he runs Protect.
 
I'll do SubSplit Gengar and Bulky Latias if thats okay (I think they are not taken anymore ?_?), been playing a lot with these recently.
 
I'm dropping Tornadus-T, I don't think I have as much experience with the set as required and I'm sure someone could do a better job than I would.
 
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